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Moving back twice

Créé par: NHLfan10506
Équipe: 2024-25 Devils du New Jersey
Date de création initiale: 24 avr. 2024
Publié: 24 avr. 2024
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Lots going on here.

Notes on three-way trade

STL gives: Buchnevich (50%), #16 pick
STL gets: #13 pick, #25 pick

NJD gives: #13 pick, $1.45m cap space
NJD gets: #16 pick, Colton

COL gives: Colton, #25 pick
COL gets: Buchnevich at $1.45m

According to Puckpedia (puckpedia.com/pickvalue), difference between #13 and #16 is equal to #53 pick. So for STL it is like selling Buch at 50% for 1st and 2nd. And $1.45m in cap relief is worth a late 2nd, early 3rd. So for NJD, it’s like buying Colton with 2nd+3rd value.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
3950 000 $
2950 000 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
33 750 000 $
21 000 000 $
2875 000 $
2825 000 $
2800 000 $
2775 000 $
1775 000 $
1775 000 $
2825 000 $
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Overage, Bonus
11 538 000 $
Greentree, Liam
3950 000 $
Transactions
1.
NJD
  1. Gustavsson, Filip
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (MIN)
Détails additionnels:
Michael Russo said recently that Minnesota may use Gustavsson as a trade chip to move up in the first round. Sounds like he is talking about NJD (#10) or Ottawa (#7).


(Reposting from earlier ACGM)
MIN
  1. Daws, Nico [Droits de RFA]
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (NJD)
Détails additionnels:
Wild move up a few spots and add a waiver-exempt goalie to allow a MAF/Wallstedt tandem to start season.
2.
NJD
  1. Bantle, Carson [Liste de réserve]
  2. Douglas, Curtis [Droits de RFA]
Détails additionnels:
Bantle is a heavy winger with some touch, whose rights expire this summer. Douglas is bigger Geertsen.
3.
VGK
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (WPG)
  2. Choix de 5e ronde en 2026 (NJD)
4.
NJD
  1. Buchnevich, Pavel (2 900 000 $ retained)
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (STL)
Détails additionnels:
Three-way (part 1)
STL
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (MIN)
Détails additionnels:
#13 for #16
5.
NJD
  1. Colton, Ross
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (COL)
Détails additionnels:
Three-way (part 2)
COL
  1. Buchnevich, Pavel (1 450 000 $ retained)
6.
NJD
    Three-way (part 3)
    STL
    1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (COL)
    Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
    Frais appliqués
    Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
    2024
    Logo de STL
    Logo de NJD
    Logo de NJD
    Logo de COL
    Logo de NJD
    2025
    Logo de NJD
    Logo de NJD
    Logo de WPG
    Logo de NJD
    Logo de NJD
    2026
    Logo de NJD
    Logo de NJD
    Logo de NJD
    Logo de NJD
    Logo de DAL
    Logo de WPG
    Logo de NJD
    Logo de NJD
    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    2287 700 000 $87 189 397 $1 538 897 $5 950 000 $510 603 $
    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
    Logo de Devils du New Jersey
    8 800 000 $8 800 000 $
    AG, AD
    NMC
    UFA - 7
    Logo de Devils du New Jersey
    8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
    C
    UFA - 6
    Logo de Devils du New Jersey
    7 875 000 $7 875 000 $
    AD, AG
    NMC
    UFA - 7
    Logo de Devils du New Jersey
    6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
    AG, AD
    NMC
    UFA - 3
    Logo de Devils du New Jersey
    7 250 000 $7 250 000 $
    C
    M-NTC
    UFA - 3
    Logo de Devils du New Jersey
    3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
    AD, C
    RFA
    Logo de Devils du New Jersey
    894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
    AD, AG
    RFA - 1
    Logo de Devils du New Jersey
    3 150 000 $3 150 000 $
    C, AG
    NTC
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Devils du New Jersey
    800 000 $800 000 $
    AD, C
    RFA
    Logo de Golden Knights de Vegas
    1 900 000 $1 900 000 $
    C, AG
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
    4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
    C, AG
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    Logo de Devils du New Jersey
    1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
    AD, C
    UFA - 1
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
    Logo de Devils du New Jersey
    925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance1 850 000 $$2M)
    DG/DD
    RFA - 1
    Logo de Devils du New Jersey
    918 333 $918 333 $ (Bonis de performance3 250 000 $$3M)
    DD
    RFA - 2
    Logo de Wild du Minnesota
    3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
    G
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Devils du New Jersey
    3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
    DG
    M-NTC
    UFA - 4
    Logo de Devils du New Jersey
    9 000 000 $9 000 000 $
    DD
    NMC
    UFA - 4
    Logo de Devils du New Jersey
    1 925 000 $1 925 000 $
    G
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Golden Knights de Vegas
    2 850 000 $2 850 000 $
    DG
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Devils du New Jersey
    4 400 000 $4 400 000 $
    DD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 3
    Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
    Logo de Devils du New Jersey
    775 000 $775 000 $
    AG
    RFA
    Overage, Bonus
    1 538 000 $1 538 000 $
    Logo de Devils du New Jersey
    1 050 000 $1 050 000 $
    DG
    RFA - 1
    Équipe de réserve
    Logo de Devils du New Jersey
    825 000 $825 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
    AG, AD
    RFA
    950 000 $950 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
    AG
    RFA
    Logo de Devils du New Jersey
    775 000 $775 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
    AD
    RFA
    Logo de Devils du New Jersey
    863 333 $863 333 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
    AD
    RFA - 2
    825 000 $825 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
    C
    RFA
    Greentree, Liam
    950 000 $950 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)

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    24 avr. à 23 h 34
    #1
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    Very very interesting. That looks like a powerhouse team. I will also be stealing this trade idea on Buch haha.
    24 avr. à 23 h 41
    #2
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    Can't see the Avs swapping Colton for Buch; doesn't make sense at all.
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    24 avr. à 23 h 42
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    what a waste. Devils get small and you didnt resign Dermy? have fun having noone step up to Rempe, 4m Center on the 4th line is a YIKES good thing your not a GM. and Gust is a HUGE NOPE your giving up a first for gust is actually terrible to move back it will cost the other team to move up idk what your smoking
    24 avr. à 23 h 55
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    Quoting: TyeZerker
    what a waste. Devils get small and you didnt resign Dermy? have fun having noone step up to Rempe, 4m Center on the 4th line is a YIKES good thing your not a GM. and Gust is a HUGE NOPE your giving up a first for gust is actually terrible to move back it will cost the other team to move up idk what your smoking


    Ross Colton, McNabb, and Howden are an average of 6 foot 3 and have combined for like 450 hits a year over the last 3 Years legitimately what the **** are you talking about
    25 avr. à 0 h 3
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    Modifié 25 avr. à 0 h 12
    Quoting: dgibb10
    Ross Colton, McNabb, and Howden are an average of 6 foot 3 and have combined for like 450 hits a year over the last 3 Years legitimately what the **** are you talking about


    Always posts sloppy replies
    Here ya go do some homework TZ
    6'3 200 https://sportsforecaster.com/nhl/p/25976/Brett_Howden

    6"4 216
    https://sportsforecaster.com/nhl/p/17437/Brayden_McNabb

    6'0 191 with more hits than Kevin Bahl!
    https://sportsforecaster.com/nhl/p/26314/Ross_Colton
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    25 avr. à 0 h 24
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    Pardon my French, but fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu** that. Under no circumstance are we handing Buch to the Avs. Never happening. The value is awful anyway.
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    25 avr. à 3 h 58
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    Modifié 25 avr. à 4 h 8
    So, if I understand it correctly, the Blues move 16th overall + Buchnevich (AND retain 50% on his contract) and in return will get a 1st just 3 spots higher and a late first?

    Ehm... and why exactly would the Blues do this?
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    25 avr. à 6 h 53
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    Interesting. If there is somebody the Wild really like at #10 and one that likely won't be available at #13, they might actually do this. Good offer!
    25 avr. à 7 h 7
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    Can't see the Avs being interested in that.
    25 avr. à 8 h 56
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    Why would COL do that? Either Landy is back zero need for Buch, or he isn’t and they just re-sign Drouin keep their pick and decide on something decidedly less expensive that doesn’t create a hole at the 3C spot and loses them a draft pick. Easy no. And what kind of bath salt smoking math does STL, trade Buch and retain on him and get a 3 spot pick swap and a late first to have him land on a divisional rival?
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    25 avr. à 9 h 57
    #11
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    I don’t really see why the blues do this

    So they trade Buch (50%) and 16th overall for 13th overall and a late first?
    Maybe if the retention was dropped and Ross Colton goes to Stl as well I could see it, but right now I don’t get it
    25 avr. à 10 h 4
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    This is a bad trade for the blues. Buch is worth more than a late first and only moving up 3 spots in the draft and we have to retain 50%
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