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Créé par: zk97

Équipe: 2024-25 Canadiens de Montréal

Date de création initiale: 20 avr. 2024

Publié: 20 avr. 2024

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

RFA		ANS	CAP HIT
Xhekaj, Arber		3	1 875 000 $
Barron, Justin		2	850 000 $

UFA		ANS	CAP HIT
Carrier, Alexandre		3	2 900 000 $

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MTL

TOR

Beck, Owen
Evans, Jake
Harris, Jordan
Heineman, Emil
Savard, David
Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (WPG)
Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (MTL)

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I feel like Marner has become underrated these days. He's still a good winger who can put up close to 100 pts over 82 GP, and is probably a top 5 RW in the league. However, I saw a trade that said Laf and K'Andre for Marner and Niemela is a bad trade - I don't get it. So here's my package for the Leafs.
David Savard provides a defensive right shot defenseman that the Leafs need.
Jordan Harris is a young 3rd pair LD who makes more sense as an option on the 3rd pair over Timmins.
Jake Evans is swapped for David Kampf - Kampf is worse than Evans and on a worse deal, so this is net positive value for MTL.
It seems unlikely that the Leafs will be able to keep Max Domi, so they also acquire a young, cost controlled 3/4C who might have 2nd line upside as a Danault-type player.
They also get two first round picks as well as Emil Heineman, who has upside as a middle six F.

Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire

Jeff Petry: 2 343 750 $ (50%)
Jake Allen: 1 925 000 $ (50%)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
23	87 675 000 $	81 249 250 $	1 022 500 $	4 670 000 $	6 425 750 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Caufield, Cole 7 850 000 $7 850 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 7	Suzuki, Nick 7 875 000 $7 875 000 $ C UFA - 6	Slafkovsky, Juraj 950 000 $950 000 $ (3 500 000 $$4M) AD, AG RFA - 1
Newhook, Alex 2 900 000 $2 900 000 $ C, AG RFA - 3	Dach, Kirby 3 362 500 $3 362 500 $ C, AD RFA - 2	Marner, Mitchell 10 903 000 $10 903 000 $ AD NMC UFA - 1
Roy, Joshua 835 000 $835 000 $ AG, AD RFA - 2	Dvorak, Christian 4 450 000 $4 450 000 $ C M-NTC UFA - 1	Armia, Joel 3 400 000 $3 400 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 1
Anderson, Josh 5 500 000 $5 500 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC UFA - 3	Kämpf, David 2 400 000 $2 400 000 $ C M-NTC UFA - 3	Gallagher, Brendan 6 500 000 $6 500 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC, NMC UFA - 3
Harvey-Pinard, Rafaël 1 100 000 $1 100 000 $ AG, AD RFA - 1		Pezzetta, Michael 812 500 $812 500 $ AG, AD UFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Matheson, Michael 4 875 000 $4 875 000 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 2	Carrier, Alexandre 2 900 000 $2 900 000 $ DD UFA	Montembeault, Samuel 3 150 000 $3 150 000 $ G UFA - 3
Hutson, Lane 950 000 $950 000 $ (750 000 $$750K) DG RFA - 2	Guhle, Kaiden 863 333 $863 333 $ (420 000 $$420K) DG/DD RFA - 1	Primeau, Cayden 890 000 $890 000 $ G RFA - 1
Xhekaj, Arber 1 875 000 $1 875 000 $ DG/DD RFA	Barron, Justin 850 000 $850 000 $ DD RFA
	Kovacevic, Johnathan 766 667 $766 667 $ DD UFA - 1

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
		Price, Carey 10 500 000 $10 500 000 $ G NMC UFA - 2

20 avr. à 11 h 2

Campabee

Rejoint: nov. 2018

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Take Beck out, he is going to be a very important piece in the future

20 avr. à 11 h 3

zk97

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Quoting: Campabee

Take Beck out, he is going to be a very important piece in the future

He's gonna be a 3C

20 avr. à 11 h 5

Campabee

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Quoting: zk97

He's gonna be a 3C

Even 3C can be important pieces would you rather have Suzuki-Dach-Danault down the middle or Suzuki-Dach-Dvorak?

20 avr. à 11 h 9

GiggywithGibby

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If the leafs loose Marner and Kampf, why would they not be able to keep Domi?

dh91 et LeafsFanForSomeReason a aimé ceci.

20 avr. à 11 h 17

RipNasty

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Obviously this is nothing at all TO would be interested in. Marner instantly becomes the best player in Montreal by a big margin and the leafs get a bunch of depth and 2 1sts. One late 1st and a future one down the road. Absolutely ridiculous

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20 avr. à 11 h 38

MitchJr

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Just … propsterous. A negative 10 on the likelihood scale, not to mention Leafs trade a top 20 player to division rival for scraps 🤦🏻

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20 avr. à 11 h 45

xxxtentacion69

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why would the leafs trade marner to a division rival for a bunch of depth?

this stuff makes habs fans look bad

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20 avr. à 11 h 47

RipNasty

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Quoting: xxxtentacion69

why would the leafs trade marner to a division rival for a bunch of depth?

this stuff makes habs fans look bad

This is actually better than can be expected from them.

20 avr. à 11 h 57

JaredOfLondon

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Gonna need another 1st to take that awful savard contract

20 avr. à 12 h 11

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MONSTER1974

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The Leafs, should they wish to trade Marner, are going to want some serious pieces coming back their way. Marner is an elite offensive winger. You don’t pick that kind of player up for spare parts/prospects when the team trading said winger is a perennial playoff contender.

A Marner trade is a hockey trade. Think Jones - Johansen when it was done.

Acquiring Marner would involve a player like Guhle, Hutson, Reinbacher, Matheson… not draft picks, or prospects, or older veterans.

20 avr. à 16 h 39

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ggha777

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Quoting: JaredOfLondon

Gonna need another 1st to take that awful savard contract

1 year left at $3.5 million for a solid 2nd pairing guy is awful now?

20 avr. à 16 h 48

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JaredOfLondon

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Quoting: ggha777

1 year left at $3.5 million for a solid 2nd pairing guy is awful now?

no, but we're talking about savard who isnt solid or a 2nd pairing guy

20 avr. à 16 h 52

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ggha777

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Quoting: JaredOfLondon

no, but we're talking about savard who isnt solid or a 2nd pairing guy

If Edmundson could get traded for positive value not once, but twice in less than a year, then So could savard. He’s not a cap dump what so ever

20 avr. à 16 h 57

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JaredOfLondon

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Quoting: ggha777

If Edmundson could get traded for positive value not once, but twice in less than a year, then So could savard. He’s not a cap dump what so ever

edmundson cost a 3rd and a 5th and came with a sub 900k cap hit, oh and he's actually much better defensivly than Savard. So yeah, Savard would be a cap dump, he's awful.

20 avr. à 17 h 1

#15

ggha777

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Quoting: JaredOfLondon

edmundson cost a 3rd and a 5th and came with a sub 900k cap hit, oh and he's actually much better defensivly than Savard. So yeah, Savard would be a cap dump, he's awful.

Well considering he had interest at the deadline would say otherwise I guess

20 avr. à 17 h 5

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JaredOfLondon

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Quoting: ggha777

Well considering he had interest at the deadline would say otherwise I guess

amazing how he always has all this interest and yet no one every trades for him. It's almost like he's not actually good and he is paid way too much

20 avr. à 17 h 7

#17

ggha777

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Quoting: JaredOfLondon

amazing how he always has all this interest and yet no one every trades for him. It's almost like he's not actually good and he is paid way too much

Huh what? He was traded a couple years ago for a 1st rounder, and Montreal just didn’t want to move him….i don’t know what your yapping about

20 avr. à 17 h 24

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JaredOfLondon

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Quoting: ggha777

Huh what? He was traded a couple years ago for a 1st rounder, and Montreal just didn’t want to move him….i don’t know what your yapping about

A couple years ago he was a much better player, he's been Flaming garbage for 2 years now, so he is worth much much less, prices dont remain static.
Convenient that montreal didnt want to move him when no one actually wanted him

20 avr. à 17 h 46

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ggha777

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Quoting: JaredOfLondon

I agree he’s not what he used to be, and he’s 100% not with a 1st now. But he does not have negative value. If you’ve actually been watching Habs hockey you would know that a lot of our young Defensive players have actually been playing good along side Savard, which is why Montreal didn’t want to deal him just yet.

20 avr. à 17 h 52

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JaredOfLondon

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Quoting: ggha777

ive watched plenty of habs hockey and he sucks out loud, he is the worst hab defending by a mile and that's saying something. He allows constant shots and chances against and has the turning circle of a drunken tugboat.
if you watched any habs hockey you'd know this

20 avr. à 18 h 6

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ggha777

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Quoting: JaredOfLondon

I watch every game. Doesn’t change the fact that he had literal interest from other teams this past deadline. Reason Habs didn’t move him is because our young defenceman play very well along side him. All because you don’t like him or think he sucks doesn’t change what I’m saying.

He’s not a cap dump

He had interest in other teams

And Habs didn't want to move him because he’s good for the young guys

Look it up those are all just facts. Wether you like it or not

20 avr. à 18 h 11

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JaredOfLondon

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Quoting: ggha777

interest means litterally nothing without a price. For all you know that interest could have been "we'll give you a contract that is just as bad for a different type of player" also you legit have no idea if there was actual interest or if montreal manufactured it to get him in the rumours. and clearly you didnt watch him play once

He is a cap dump

no he didnt

the habs want to move him because he sucks and costs too much

Look it up, those are facts, weather you like it or not

20 avr. à 18 h 24

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ggha777

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Modifié 20 avr. à 18 h 30

Quoting: JaredOfLondon

https://www.nhltraderumors.me/2024/03/canadiens-rumors-montreal-contemplating.html

https://thehockeynews.com/nhl/tampa-bay-lightning/latest-news/former-lightning-defenseman-becoming-hot-commodity-on-trade-market

https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/32-thoughts-a-note-on-every-team-to-open-trade-deadline-week/?sn-amp

Bro is just speaking yapapanese because he’s a Habs hater

20 avr. à 18 h 31

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JaredOfLondon

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Quoting: ggha777

you do realize that GMs say that people have interest in their guys they want to move just to get their names in the rumours every single year right? And that the Habs are notorious for it right?
Of course you arnt. You believe every single rumour that makes you feel better about the habs and their bad players, right?

20 avr. à 18 h 35

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ggha777

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Quoting: JaredOfLondon

Hey man I get what you’re saying. You could be right, but I’m just basing my info off of articles I read. That’s all. I get your mad because your favourite team hasn’t been relevant since 67. But don’t mean you gotta speak none sense. Worry about your team actually doing something in the playoffs for once

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