Holtz and Kovacevic with Gravy on Top

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Créé par: Anus_McLeod

Équipe: 2024-25 Avalanche du Colorado

Date de création initiale: 17 avr. 2024

Publié: 17 avr. 2024

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

I'm pretty sold on the Holtz and Kovacevic moves that have been discussed before (sorry NJD and Habs fans to make you keep clicking on the same ol same ol). As such, I'm keeping those for this one. The trades can be tweaked a bit if needed (I especially know that some Devils fans put a higher value on Holtz).

I'm bringing in Behrens, who they really need to sign, for this one too. 3LD could be a position they look to upgrade at the TDL, but it makes sense to me to give him experience during the year.

I'm moving out Manson for a couple reasons. The first is to get the pick for Kovacevic. The second is to bring back Graves (more on that below).

Makar and Toews are obviously one of the best pairings in the league (though they have struggled a bit this season compared to years past). But if you look back and check out some stats, Makar and Graves were up there as well. Not as good as Toews/Makar, but still near the top of the league. And when Girard and Toews were together, they also put up very strong results. This spreads the skill a bit better through the top four imo, and it's locked for three more years. Plenty of time to see if guys like Behrens, Malinski, and Gulyayev can push for a role (or larger role) before deciding who, if anyone, needs to go.

I suspect Toews and Makar would still play together a fair amount (since each plays 25 min per game), even in this scenario, so it's not entirely the death of that pairing.

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

LISTE DE RÉSERVE		ANS	CAP HIT
Behrens, Sean		2	950 000 $
Ritchie, Calum		3	950 000 $

RFA		ANS	CAP HIT
Mittelstadt, Casey		4	5 500 000 $

UFA		ANS	CAP HIT
Drouin, Jonathan		2	3 000 000 $

Transactions

COL

Holtz, Alexander

NJD

Colton, Ross

COL

Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (BUF)
Choix de 3e ronde en 2025 (BUF)

BUF

Manson, Josh

COL

Kovacevic, Johnathan

MTL

Choix de 3e ronde en 2025 (BUF)

COL

Graves, Ryan

PIT

Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (BUF)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2024
2025
2026

FORMATION

VUE À LONG TERME

INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
22	87 700 000 $	87 667 084 $	0 $	907 500 $	32 916 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Drouin, Jonathan 3 000 000 $3 000 000 $ AG, AD UFA	MacKinnon, Nathan 12 600 000 $12 600 000 $ C NMC UFA - 7	Nichushkin, Valeri 6 125 000 $6 125 000 $ AD, AG NMC UFA - 6
Lehkonen, Artturi 4 500 000 $4 500 000 $ AG, AD M-NTC UFA - 3	Mittelstadt, Casey 5 500 000 $5 500 000 $ AG, C RFA	Rantanen, Mikko 9 250 000 $9 250 000 $ AD, C M-NTC UFA - 1
Landeskog, Gabriel 7 000 000 $7 000 000 $ AG, C NMC UFA - 5	Ritchie, Calum 950 000 $950 000 $ C RFA	Holtz, Alexander 894 167 $894 167 $ (850 000 $$850K) AD, AG RFA - 1
Wood, Miles 2 500 000 $2 500 000 $ AG M-NTC UFA - 5	Kovalenko, Nikolai 896 250 $896 250 $ (57 500 $$58K) AD RFA - 1	O'Connor, Logan 1 050 000 $1 050 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Graves, Ryan 4 500 000 $4 500 000 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 5	Makar, Cale 9 000 000 $9 000 000 $ DD UFA - 3	Georgiev, Alexandar 3 400 000 $3 400 000 $ G UFA - 1
Toews, Devon 7 250 000 $7 250 000 $ DG NMC UFA - 7	Girard, Samuel 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ DG/DD M-NTC UFA - 3	Annunen, Justus 837 500 $837 500 $ G RFA - 2
Behrens, Sean 950 000 $950 000 $ DG RFA - 3	Kovacevic, Johnathan 766 667 $766 667 $ DD UFA - 1

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Malinski, Sam 850 000 $850 000 $ DD RFA - 1
Foudy, Jean-Luc 847 500 $847 500 $ C RFA - 1

17 avr. à 12 h 52

Smitty426

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Colton for a couple picks sure, not Holtz

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17 avr. à 12 h 56

Rew77

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The penguins should accept. Graves is a good defenseman but for some reason doesn't fit well with the penguins.

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17 avr. à 12 h 58

BUFF36

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Rather just give Montreal the 3rd myself for Kovacevic, and stay away from Manson

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17 avr. à 13 h 4

Anus_McLeod

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Quoting: Smitty426

Colton for a couple picks sure, not Holtz

I get where you're coming from. Your fan base is pretty split on that though, and I'm taking the optimistic side from my perspective.

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17 avr. à 13 h 6

Anus_McLeod

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Quoting: BUFF36

Rather just give Montreal the 3rd myself for Kovacevic, and stay away from Manson

I think Manson would be a nice fit there. I have seen other Sabres fans trade for him and like how the lineup looks with him added in.

Personally I think Manson's experience would be more beneficial to the Sabres than another young (or at least less experienced) player in Kovacevic.

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17 avr. à 13 h 11

Pens3lieve

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Quoting: Rew77

The penguins should accept. Graves is a good defenseman but for some reason doesn't fit well with the penguins.

Pit accepts, lol we would give more than a third to get rid of him after the season he just had

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17 avr. à 13 h 24

BUFF36

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Quoting: Anus_McLeod

Rather go after someone better than Manson myself and there should be opportunities for that in the offseason. Think Kovacevic is a cheap decent option depending on what happens with Joker and Bryson.

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17 avr. à 13 h 29

Smitty426

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Quoting: Anus_McLeod

I get where you're coming from. Your fan base is pretty split on that though, and I'm taking the optimistic side from my perspective.

No, I get it.
Its mostly because Holtz is hated by our GM, current coach, Lindy Ruff! Holtz is not getting a fair shake and should. He's been stuck with plug-ish type line mates and not done bad at all.
I think its a good fit because it seems like there is bit of a cash crunch in CO and a need for some heavier help in Jersey. If I remember correctly you guys gave up a 2nd to get him from Tampa?
So we can get something done, but where is that sweet spot?

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17 avr. à 14 h 13

AntiAnalytics

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Quoting: Anus_McLeod

Manson is also old & doesn’t really fit our timeline
And does he even waive to come here???

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17 avr. à 14 h 19

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Anus_McLeod

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Quoting: AntiAnalytics

Manson is also old & doesn’t really fit our timeline
And does he even waive to come here???

At some point you need those bridge guys to help drag youngsters to the playoffs and show them the way. Manson fits the bill imo.

As to his NTC, he only marks 12 teams he won't go to after this year. Buffalo could be on that list, but I don't think its a slam dunk.

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17 avr. à 14 h 20

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AntiAnalytics

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Quoting: Anus_McLeod

I’ll believe it when it happens
Seems doubtful to me

17 avr. à 15 h 29

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Bringing Graves back on that contract would be disastrous. No way no how would I do that. And unless there is a deep playoff run you can’t run Georgiev back no with how he has played in 24.

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17 avr. à 16 h 36

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LimeyBarsteward

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To be honest I don’t think any of this is necessary except trading Colton.
Manson is better than Graves
Kovie the tank jr projects as a 3RW not really a center.
If Richie is ready to go next season he’s probably a 4c but I love Landy being there to teach him how to be a pro so 3c is ok.
Behrens will probably need a year in the ahl but I’m happy to consider he shows up at camp and earns the spot.
It just comes down to Malinski vs kova as to who you like better. I’m in the malinski camp but he didn’t do as well as I would have liked in the ahl this year. Soo 🤷‍♀️

17 avr. à 17 h 2

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TJTwolf

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Tbh I'd skip the whole Graves/Manson part as unnecessary in this scenario. Ritchie I don't think will be ready but we can hope. The Colton/Holtz trade I'm starting to get behind.

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17 avr. à 17 h 59

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Anus_McLeod

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Quoting: TJTwolf

Tbh I'd skip the whole Graves/Manson part as unnecessary in this scenario. Ritchie I don't think will be ready but we can hope. The Colton/Holtz trade I'm starting to get behind.

Graves has shown he can complement Makar. That's why he's better for this team in my eyes. If he can come back and play at the same level as when he was here, I think that's a better top four.

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