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Date de création initiale: 16 avr. 2024
Publié: 16 avr. 2024
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Lane Hutson played well, but man he's the skinniest defenseman I've ever seen. Put him on the ice against Brady Tkachuk or Tage Thompson and he's just gonna get man-handled.

He needs to put on some pounds and muscle in his lower body in the worst way. Someone at one point is gonna take a run at him and even if he's shifty, no one avoids getting hit forever, especially as a defender.

There is no reason this kid can't put on 10 pounds over the summer and nearly double the size of his Calves and Hamstrings.

As things stand, I would play Lane in the AHL until he bulks up. It may take him 2-3 years to get to 180 lbs, but he needs to be there if he wants to survive an NHL season.

That being said, I can't think of 2 better people to show him the way than Frankie Bouillon and MSL. Here's hoping he comes to camp at 175 lbs next season.
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16 avr. à 8 h 13
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That kid looks like the real deal.

Just needs to hit the gym hard this summer and inhale lots of protein.
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163 pounds for someone who is 5'10" isn't the worst I've seen, but yeah, he will need to bulk up. He is likely going to get exposed if he doesn't. Doing it too quickly can be bad for athleticism/agility/etc., causing him to have to re-learn his entire game. Even 10 lbs in one summer could be too much all at once. He looked pretty good, though. What a fun and emotionally exhausting game last night!
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Quoting: SharkTank
That kid looks like the real deal.

Just needs to hit the gym hard this summer and inhale lots of protein.


If you think he went to the US national program and NCAA and didn't hit the gym you are kidding yourself.
Eating more protein isn't going to help. Your body can only digest so much of it and then you just pi$$ it out.
You'll waste more money than you will grown.
At 20, after years of trying it's probably high metabolism. Given he's not very tall.
Tall people can tend to have a very hard time gaining weight.
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163 pounds for someone who is 5'10" isn't the worst I've seen, but yeah, he will need to bulk up. He is likely going to get exposed if he doesn't. Doing it too quickly can be bad for athleticism/agility/etc., causing him to have to re-learn his entire game. Even 10 lbs in one summer could be too much all at once. He looked pretty good, though. What a fun and emotionally exhausting game last night!


Happy for the Wings and Happy the Habs keep draft position.

3 points by Jake Evans and coulda been 4 if the young man could shoot the puck at all because Lane set him up for a beauty!

I hear you about going too quick. I'd like to see him around 170 at least. I dunno if he starts in the NHL, but it's very hard to say he can't. More of a question of whether he should.
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If you think he went to the US national program and NCAA and didn't hit the gym you are kidding yourself.
Eating more protein isn't going to help. Your body can only digest so much of it and then you just pi$$ it out.
You'll waste more money than you will grown.
At 20, after years of trying it's probably high metabolism. Given he's not very tall.
Tall people can tend to have a very hard time gaining weight.


In college he was apparently the first in and last out. He used to beat the coaches to work. His commitment to athleticism is not in question, he knows how hard he's gonna have to work.

He's just... Small. A lower body like that one is not suited to a brutal 82 games of NHL punishment. 7-10 pounds of muscle is gonna mean the world to this kid if he wants to start in MTL next season.
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He's in MTL, he's gonna have poutine injected into his veins from now on 😂
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In college he was apparently the first in and last out. He used to beat the coaches to work. His commitment to athleticism is not in question, he knows how hard he's gonna have to work.

He's just... Small. A lower body like that one is not suited to a brutal 82 games of NHL punishment. 7-10 pounds of muscle is gonna mean the world to this kid if he wants to start in MTL next season.


When I played in juniors there was this kid on my team.
We would go out to eat, applebees what not.... He would eat 3 meals all the time. Could not gain weight.
I use to wonder how the hell his parents could afford it all. I know my couldn't. I was on the $1 McDs Double cheeseburger and jars of PB diet because it was cheap.
Some people just aren't athletes like that. You can have skill, hand eye whatever, but you just don't have the body to develop the frame due to metabolism.

Thing is when that kid got older, he ballooned as in fat. Because the metabolism slowed and his eating habits were insane.
Which is why what he really needs is just time.
Look at POJ on the penguins. He was 165lbs at 20... they say he's 185lbs today, I doubt it.. like saying Crosby is 5'11. maybe 180lbs if he's lucky.
So it took him 4 years to gain 15lbs. That might end up being that guys path and that's ok.
In the old days Defensemen were allowed to develop to 23-24 so they could gain weight. Given they were taller and 240lbs...but they were allowed to grow. Now if they are good thrown in at 20. Good for them but they need time.
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"Send him to the AHL because he's too small" that's probably the worst reason to send him to the AHL. He will be targeted in the AHL much more than the NHL for his size. The NHL can be a dump and chase league, but the AHL is a dump and target league, those big AHL wingers aren't looking to dump and chase, they're looking to dump and destroy.

If Lane is too small for the NHL, the Habs did him a disservice by signing him, he could have had another year in college. I expect Lane to stay in the NHL from this point forward or head overseas, never the AHL.
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Quoting: LuckyMoneyPuck
If you think he went to the US national program and NCAA and didn't hit the gym you are kidding yourself.
Eating more protein isn't going to help. Your body can only digest so much of it and then you just pi$$ it out.
You'll waste more money than you will grown.
At 20, after years of trying it's probably high metabolism. Given he's not very tall.
Tall people can tend to have a very hard time gaining weight.


If he's pissing out protein he has kidney problems, which would be a bigger issue than him trying to gain weight.
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When I played in juniors there was this kid on my team.
We would go out to eat, applebees what not.... He would eat 3 meals all the time. Could not gain weight.
I use to wonder how the hell his parents could afford it all. I know my couldn't. I was on the $1 McDs Double cheeseburger and jars of PB diet because it was cheap.
Some people just aren't athletes like that. You can have skill, hand eye whatever, but you just don't have the body to develop the frame due to metabolism.

Thing is when that kid got older, he ballooned as in fat. Because the metabolism slowed and his eating habits were insane.
Which is why what he really needs is just time.
Look at POJ on the penguins. He was 165lbs at 20... they say he's 185lbs today, I doubt it.. like saying Crosby is 5'11. maybe 180lbs if he's lucky.
So it took him 4 years to gain 15lbs. That might end up being that guys path and that's ok.
In the old days Defensemen were allowed to develop to 23-24 so they could gain weight. Given they were taller and 240lbs...but they were allowed to grow. Now if they are good thrown in at 20. Good for them but they need time.


Interesting story, thanks for sharing.

I think Lane put on 8 pounds last year. It's not unreasonable to expect him to put on another 7.
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"Send him to the AHL because he's too small" that's probably the worst reason to send him to the AHL. He will be targeted in the AHL much more than the NHL for his size. The NHL can be a dump and chase league, but the AHL is a dump and target league, those big AHL wingers aren't looking to dump and chase, they're looking to dump and destroy.

If Lane is too small for the NHL, the Habs did him a disservice by signing him, he could have had another year in college. I expect Lane to stay in the NHL from this point forward or head overseas, never the AHL.


Fair argument. My perspective is more about the speed of the game. Yes there are more players taking cheap shots and there's more dump and chase, but Lane will also have additional time to get out of the way.

Ultimately though, sometimes defenders need to take the hit to make the play. He's gonna need muscle to do it, or else he's just a PP specialist.
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Quoting: LuckyMoneyPuck
If you think he went to the US national program and NCAA and didn't hit the gym you are kidding yourself.
Eating more protein isn't going to help. Your body can only digest so much of it and then you just pi$$ it out.
You'll waste more money than you will grown.
At 20, after years of trying it's probably high metabolism. Given he's not very tall.
Tall people can tend to have a very hard time gaining weight.


I can assure you that is bro science. Its calories in vs calories out and focusing on taking in enough protein and carbs for his activity level. The Kid is not eating enough for his activity level for his body to properly recover AND build muscle if he is 163 lbs. I was 165 lbs at 5'11 at 16-17 years old playing hockey 5-6 nights a week. During college I focused on proper nutrition, compound lifting and got very serious about changing my physique. Within 2 years I was at 5'11, 205 lbs, less than 13% body fat. You can easily put on muscle at that age when you have the right nutrition. Problem is these kids are on the ice 7 nights a week + off ice training for much of their teens, throw schooling in the mix and there is literally not enough time in the day for them to figure out how to properly eat. He will most likely figure it out with the proper NHL strength training coach.
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If he's pissing out protein he has kidney problems, which would be a bigger issue than him trying to gain weight.


that's not true, you body removes extra protein in urine and you can only absorb so much. Nothing to do with Kidney problems.
You just got hooked into marketing by supplement companies that sell you junk.
You body break it down for energy krebs cycle acidosis and you will piss it out. None of which helps in muscle creation.
What he needs are fats if he's high metabolism. Not proteins. But fats will make his heart feel like crap if he's loading them.
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Quoting: vinny82
I can assure you that is bro science. Its calories in vs calories out and focusing on taking in enough protein and carbs for his activity level. The Kid is not eating enough for his activity level for his body to properly recover AND build muscle if he is 163 lbs. I was 165 lbs at 5'11 at 16-17 years old playing hockey 5-6 nights a week. During college I focused on proper nutrition, compound lifting and got very serious about changing my physique. Within 2 years I was at 5'11, 205 lbs, less than 13% body fat. You can easily put on muscle at that age when you have the right nutrition. Problem is these kids are on the ice 7 nights a week + off ice training for much of their teens, throw schooling in the mix and there is literally not enough time in the day for them to figure out how to properly eat. He will most likely figure it out with the proper NHL strength training coach.


its not bro science. You're metabolism is the number 1 factor in weight gain. Hell they did studies on runners. They tested metabolism while they trained, and while they sat on the sofa doing nothing during their rest periods to avoid over use activity.
They used the breathing test for metabolism testing. You burn the same amount of calories. It's why exercise alone will never lead to weight loss. Diet does. Everyone who ever got shredded knows that.
But at the same time if your metabolism is high.....there is nothing you can do to lower it. So it's not a calories in/out equation.
Your body has a natural metabolism, it burns, and can burn a lot. Some people are naturally skinny no matter what they eat till their metabolism slows. Those are facts. Other people can touch 1 piece of junk food and balloon. It is what it is. It's why some people struggle to gain weight and others don't.

Your ideas about what these "kids" have going on isn't true. The NCAA and Team US provide everything for these kids. I had trainers and dieticians and sports psychologists when at bowling green and that was years ago. They don't have those issues. If they need help with a diet it's given, they will help them follow it as well providing damn near anything they need.
You think just because that's how it worked for you it's how it works for all. But if you've seen someone be able to eat like crazy and not gain weight you know that's just how it is.
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Quoting: LuckyMoneyPuck
that's not true, you body removes extra protein in urine and you can only absorb so much. Nothing to do with Kidney problems.
You just got hooked into marketing by supplement companies that sell you junk.
You body break it down for energy krebs cycle acidosis and you will piss it out. None of which helps in muscle creation.
What he needs are fats if he's high metabolism. Not proteins. But fats will make his heart feel like crap if he's loading them.


I didn't get hooked into any protein marketing, I prefer steak & chicken.
Proteinuria would cause protein in the urine indicating kidney problems.
If he's pissing it out it would be due to kidney damage.

Excess protein gets converted into urea and discharged that way but he wouldn't be pissing out protein without kidney damage.
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Lucky Money Puck please stop posting from your arse.

Thanks.

Edit: This guy knows absolutely nothing about hockey. 🙄

He only likes the sound of his own voice.

I've never seen a person blather on and on and have no point? 🤔

And no you didn't play junior. 🤭

Well Junior D maybe.
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Quoting: vinny82
I can assure you that is bro science. Its calories in vs calories out and focusing on taking in enough protein and carbs for his activity level. The Kid is not eating enough for his activity level for his body to properly recover AND build muscle if he is 163 lbs. I was 165 lbs at 5'11 at 16-17 years old playing hockey 5-6 nights a week. During college I focused on proper nutrition, compound lifting and got very serious about changing my physique. Within 2 years I was at 5'11, 205 lbs, less than 13% body fat. You can easily put on muscle at that age when you have the right nutrition. Problem is these kids are on the ice 7 nights a week + off ice training for much of their teens, throw schooling in the mix and there is literally not enough time in the day for them to figure out how to properly eat. He will most likely figure it out with the proper NHL strength training coach.


Quoting: LuckyMoneyPuck
its not bro science. You're metabolism is the number 1 factor in weight gain. Hell they did studies on runners. They tested metabolism while they trained, and while they sat on the sofa doing nothing during their rest periods to avoid over use activity.
They used the breathing test for metabolism testing. You burn the same amount of calories. It's why exercise alone will never lead to weight loss. Diet does. Everyone who ever got shredded knows that.
But at the same time if your metabolism is high.....there is nothing you can do to lower it. So it's not a calories in/out equation.
Your body has a natural metabolism, it burns, and can burn a lot. Some people are naturally skinny no matter what they eat till their metabolism slows. Those are facts. Other people can touch 1 piece of junk food and balloon. It is what it is. It's why some people struggle to gain weight and others don't.

Your ideas about what these "kids" have going on isn't true. The NCAA and Team US provide everything for these kids. I had trainers and dieticians and sports psychologists when at bowling green and that was years ago. They don't have those issues. If they need help with a diet it's given, they will help them follow it as well providing damn near anything they need.
You think just because that's how it worked for you it's how it works for all. But if you've seen someone be able to eat like crazy and not gain weight you know that's just how it is.


Quoting: Just_A_Guess
I didn't get hooked into any protein marketing, I prefer steak & chicken.
Proteinuria would cause protein in the urine indicating kidney problems.
If he's pissing it out it would be due to kidney damage.

Excess protein gets converted into urea and discharged that way but he wouldn't be pissing out protein without kidney damage.


Bro Science & Proteinuria... I just wanna make sure, we're still talking hockey, right?

All kidding aside I am learning a lot from this dialog. Thanks team!
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Quoting: LuckyMoneyPuck
its not bro science. You're metabolism is the number 1 factor in weight gain. Hell they did studies on runners. They tested metabolism while they trained, and while they sat on the sofa doing nothing during their rest periods to avoid over use activity.
They used the breathing test for metabolism testing. You burn the same amount of calories. It's why exercise alone will never lead to weight loss. Diet does. Everyone who ever got shredded knows that.
But at the same time if your metabolism is high.....there is nothing you can do to lower it. So it's not a calories in/out equation.
Your body has a natural metabolism, it burns, and can burn a lot. Some people are naturally skinny no matter what they eat till their metabolism slows. Those are facts. Other people can touch 1 piece of junk food and balloon. It is what it is. It's why some people struggle to gain weight and others don't.

Your ideas about what these "kids" have going on isn't true. The NCAA and Team US provide everything for these kids. I had trainers and dieticians and sports psychologists when at bowling green and that was years ago. They don't have those issues. If they need help with a diet it's given, they will help them follow it as well providing damn near anything they need.
You think just because that's how it worked for you it's how it works for all. But if you've seen someone be able to eat like crazy and not gain weight you know that's just how it is.



Sure metabolism plays a factor in how people gain weight I am not denying that, however everyone has a base TDEE they need for maintenance which accounts for metabolism. For example, a 5'11 165 lb male athlete training 2x per day needs roughly 3500 calories per day just to maintain weight at 165. In order to gain steadily 1-1.5 lbs a week they need 3800-4000 per day, 28,000 per week, and someone with a higher metabolism should be taking in over 4000 per day. Some people just under estimate just how much they actually need to eat to hit 4000 calories per day, especially when eating "clean" as people like to call it. 4000 calories per day is an actual insane amount of food when you are talking about grilled chicken, beef, rice, fruit and veggies.
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Quoting: Just_A_Guess
I didn't get hooked into any protein marketing, I prefer steak & chicken.
Proteinuria would cause protein in the urine indicating kidney problems.
If he's pissing it out it would be due to kidney damage.

Excess protein gets converted into urea and discharged that way but he wouldn't be pissing out protein without kidney damage.


really is that the level of petty response you are going with...
converted before being pissed out..... FFS ignored.
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Lucky Money Puck please stop posting from your arse.

Thanks.

Edit: This guy knows absolutely nothing about hockey. 🙄

He only likes the sound of his own voice.

I've never seen a person blather on and on and have no point? 🤔

And no you didn't play junior. 🤭

Well Junior D maybe.


back your sofa arm chair
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Lucky Money Puck please stop posting from your arse.

Thanks.

Edit: This guy knows absolutely nothing about hockey. 🙄

He only likes the sound of his own voice.

I've never seen a person blather on and on and have no point? 🤔

And no you didn't play junior. 🤭

Well Junior D maybe.


Quoting: vinny82
Sure metabolism plays a factor in how people gain weight I am not denying that, however everyone has a base TDEE they need for maintenance which accounts for metabolism. For example, a 5'11 165 lb male athlete training 2x per day needs roughly 3500 calories per day just to maintain weight at 165. In order to gain steadily 1-1.5 lbs a week they need 3800-4000 per day, 28,000 per week, and someone with a higher metabolism should be taking in over 4000 per day. Some people just under estimate just how much they actually need to eat to hit 4000 calories per day, especially when eating "clean" as people like to call it. 4000 calories per day is an actual insane amount of food when you are talking about grilled chicken, beef, rice, fruit and veggies.


Quoting: LuckyMoneyPuck
really is that the level of petty response you are going with...
converted before being pissed out..... FFS ignored.


Team, let's try and find some middle ground here. Can we all agree that Chick-Fil-A is awesome?!
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Quoting: LuckyMoneyPuck
really is that the level of petty response you are going with...
converted before being pissed out..... FFS ignored.


Petty? Because I haven't agreed with you on an incorrect statement? Alright then super chief, you have yourself a misinformed day.
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Team, let's try and find some middle ground here. Can we all agree that Chick-Fil-A is awesome?!


I can't eat at Chick-Fil-A.

My kidneys hurt too much when I piss protein through them.

Hey everybody.

Listen to me.

I played junior mmm K?
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16 avr. à 11 h 44
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Lucky Money Puck please stop posting from your arse.

Thanks.

Edit: This guy knows absolutely nothing about hockey. 🙄

He only likes the sound of his own voice.

I've never seen a person blather on and on and have no point? 🤔

And no you didn't play junior. 🤭

Well Junior D maybe.


Quoting: jonh514
Bro Science & Proteinuria... I just wanna make sure, we're still talking hockey, right?

All kidding aside I am learning a lot from this dialog. Thanks team!


Quoting: jonh514
Team, let's try and find some middle ground here. Can we all agree that Chick-Fil-A is awesome?!


Apparently I struck a nerve with disagreeing with an incorrect statement?
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I can't eat at Chick-Fil-A.

My kidneys hurt too much when I piss protein through them.


I'm very sorry sir! 😭 If you need medical consultation at no cost, I suggest changing your legal name to Lane Hutson.
 
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