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Créé par: KentMcNally

Équipe: 2023-24 Canadiens de Montréal

Date de création initiale: 2 avr. 2024

Publié: 2 avr. 2024

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

If things remained as they are now and Montreal holds the #23 pick and New Jersey holds the #11 pick would New Jersey be willing to trade that pick to Montreal?

The Devils thought that they could be very good this year and that fell apart due to goaltending and defence, but perhaps they are close to competing and not overly interested in waiting for that #11 pick to be a key contributor in 3 or 4 years if they are in a win now mode.

Do Devil fans consider Palat a cap dump (he kind of looks like one to me, given his salary and his production, but I have not watched him much this year)?

If the trade package is not right, how should it be changed (by either team)?

Transactions

MTL

Palat, Ondrej
Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (NJD)

NJD

Farrell, Sean
Matheson, Michael
Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (WPG)
Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (MTL)
Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (PIT)

Rachats de contrats

Karl Alzner: 833 333 $

Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire

Joel Edmundson: 1 750 000 $ (50%)
Jeff Petry: 2 343 750 $ (50%)
Jake Allen: 1 925 000 $ (50%)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2024
2025
2026

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TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
23	83 500 000 $	76 935 416 $	1 170 000 $	4 035 000 $	6 564 584 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Caufield, Cole 7 850 000 $7 850 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 8	Suzuki, Nick 7 875 000 $7 875 000 $ C UFA - 7	Gallagher, Brendan 6 500 000 $6 500 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC, NMC UFA - 4
Pearson, Tanner 3 250 000 $3 250 000 $ AG UFA - 1	Newhook, Alex 2 900 000 $2 900 000 $ C, AG RFA - 4	Anderson, Josh 5 500 000 $5 500 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC UFA - 4
Harvey-Pinard, Rafaël 1 100 000 $1 100 000 $ AG, AD RFA - 2	Evans, Jake 1 700 000 $1 700 000 $ C UFA - 2	Armia, Joel 3 400 000 $3 400 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 2
Roy, Joshua 835 000 $835 000 $ (57 500 $$58K) AG, AD RFA - 3	White, Colin 775 000 $775 000 $ C, AD UFA - 1	Slafkovsky, Juraj 950 000 $950 000 $ (3 500 000 $$4M) AD, AG RFA - 2
Pezzetta, Michael 812 500 $812 500 $ AG, AD UFA - 2		Ylönen, Jesse 775 000 $775 000 $ AD, AG RFA - 1
Palat, Ondrej 6 000 000 $6 000 000 $ AG, AD NMC UFA - 4

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
	Savard, David 3 500 000 $3 500 000 $ DD UFA - 2	Montembeault, Samuel 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ G UFA - 1
Harris, Jordan 1 400 000 $1 400 000 $ DG/DD RFA - 2	Kovacevic, Johnathan 766 667 $766 667 $ DD UFA - 2	Primeau, Cayden 890 000 $890 000 $ G RFA - 2
Struble, Jayden 867 500 $867 500 $ (57 500 $$58K) DG RFA - 2
Guhle, Kaiden 863 333 $863 333 $ (420 000 $$420K) DG/DD RFA - 2
Xhekaj, Arber 828 333 $828 333 $ DG/DD RFA - 1

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
	Dvorak, Christian 4 450 000 $4 450 000 $ C M-NTC UFA - 2	Price, Carey 10 500 000 $10 500 000 $ G NMC UFA - 3
	Dach, Kirby 3 362 500 $3 362 500 $ C, AD RFA - 3
	Wideman, Chris 762 500 $762 500 $ DD UFA - 1

2 avr. à 10 h 20

ht42

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Devils will likely gonna trade their 1st round pick for a top goalie like Markstrom.

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2 avr. à 10 h 29

KentMcNally

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Quoting: ht42

Devils will likely gonna trade their 1st round pick for a top goalie like Markstrom.

I could see that happening. Although, it is rare for such a high pick to be traded for a goalie, but maybe Calgary and New Jersey work out some other details in a larger trade scenario.

2 avr. à 10 h 37

ht42

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Quoting: KentMcNally

I could see that happening. Although, it is rare for such a high pick to be traded for a goalie, but maybe Calgary and New Jersey work out some other details in a larger trade scenario.

It's a ideal scenario for CGY because they will likely gonna want to draft Iginla.

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2 avr. à 10 h 48

MoSeider53

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Both Devils and Palat say hell no.

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2 avr. à 10 h 51

NJDevils1317

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First, no way Palat waives for MTL. Second, why would the Devils be going after quantity over quality? Third, which was addressed in other posts, I can not see the Devils trading a top 15 pick for two years of Markstrom. It is not as if the market is that hot for him that other teams would be offering anything close to that ballpark. Markstrom probably goes for a conditional 2nd at best becoming a 1st if a team reaches the conference finals.

2 avr. à 11 h 14

Campabee

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So last year it cost the Coyotes 27th + 2 2nd round picks for the 11th OVA pick but the Habs are gonna trade 2 1sts + 3 2nds for a winger we don't want or need and the same pick?! Hughes and company don't even consider this, take out Matheson, Farrell and Palat and that's the deal

Alternatively, Matheson for the Devils 1st + 2nd works too

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2 avr. à 12 h 5

Smitty426

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Quoting: NJDevils1317

First, no way Palat waives for MTL. Second, why would the Devils be going after quantity over quality? Third, which was addressed in other posts, I can not see the Devils trading a top 15 pick for two years of Markstrom. It is not as if the market is that hot for him that other teams would be offering anything close to that ballpark. Markstrom probably goes for a conditional 2nd at best becoming a 1st if a team reaches the conference finals.

Right now its a 11 OA pick, that is a lottery pick. So first off thats not going for JM. Next as noted a top 15 is worth more than JM. B's fans are offering Ullmark for a 2025 1st +. Thats a better option than Markey. We need a starter for sure, but the pressure to get in now is off, the prices wont be what they were for a guy like JM, if they are Jersey shouldn't pay them. I still think Fitz wanted him because of the extra yr to let our young guy get reps and see what we have. Allen changes that dynamic now so JM less of an option. Allen will backup New G next yr and Daws/Schmid (if he wants too stay)/Poultier/Brennan etc will be the following years backup IMO

2 avr. à 13 h 14

habs_need_Scoring

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Quoting: Campabee

Matheson alone is worth a first and palat has negative value, this deal makes no sense whatsoever for MTL.

2 avr. à 13 h 29

NJDevils1317

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Quoting: Smitty426

You understand I didn't mean this year right as it isn't as if we can still offer a conditional 2nd now, it would have to be 2025, and I'm not even saying it is NJ doing it.

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NJDevils1317

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Quoting: habs_need_Scoring

Matheson alone is worth a first and palat has negative value, this deal makes no sense whatsoever for MTL.

Matheson is not worth a top 15 pick.

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Campabee

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Quoting: habs_need_Scoring

Matheson alone is worth a first and palat has negative value, this deal makes no sense whatsoever for MTL.

What?! I literally said to take out Matheson, Palat and Farrell or make the deal just Matheson for the Devils 2024 1st + a 2nd, you are just repeating what I said

2 avr. à 13 h 33

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dgibb10

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Quoting: Campabee

What?! I literally said to take out Matheson, Palat and Farrell or make the deal just Matheson for the Devils 2024 1st + a 2nd, you are just repeating what I said

Wrong dman for that package. Try Kaiden Guhle if your ask is NJD 24 1st+2nd

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2 avr. à 14 h 22

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Smitty426

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Quoting: NJDevils1317

You understand I didn't mean this year right as it isn't as if we can still offer a conditional 2nd now, it would have to be 2025, and I'm not even saying it is NJ doing it.

Yes definitely I was just stated for those who might be asking. And I dint state it properly but yes I agree with you on value, sorry bout dat.

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