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Familiar Trade Bait and Unfamiliar Targets

Créé par: CaseyFlyman
Équipe: 2024-25 Blue Jackets de Columbus
Date de création initiale: 28 mars 2024
Publié: 28 mars 2024
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
We're just going to assume CBJ get passed in the lottery and fall to 6th OA, then draft Berkly Catton.

Columbus re-signs Zboril to play the 3rd-pair LD role until a long-term option presents itself. Boqvist plays the 7th-D role in hopes of staying healthy all year. If he excels wherever and whenever he plays, he's extended for cheap as the long-term 7th-D.

Mateychuk starts the year in Cleveland, and gets called up around TDL once Provorov is moved.

KJ starts the year in Cleveland to rehab, and likely gets called up as soon as there's an injury. Brindley and Dumais spend the year in Cleveland.

Danforth and Kuraly are the TDL moves as Columbus looks to miss yet again. They make some strides though and look to push for a wildcard/3rd in the Metro in 2025/26.

Barring major injuries, this is what the team looks like post-deadline 2025.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
3925 000 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
2825 000 $
22 750 000 $
1825 000 $
2925 000 $
11 500 000 $
45 500 000 $
21 250 000 $
22 000 000 $
11 250 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
2925 000 $
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Catton, Berkly
3950 000 $
Transactions
1.
CBJ
  1. Kuemper, Darcy
Détails additionnels:
Happens after July 1st when Kuemper's $2M signing bonus is paid. Columbus adds a veteran goaltender as a Tarasov backup, keeps Greaves in the AHL another year, and saves some money. All while avoiding buying out Elvis if they're headed for a divorce.
WSH
  1. Merzlikins, Elvis
Détails additionnels:
Purely a change-of-scenery trade for two bad goalie contracts. Washington gets the younger, slightly better goaltender.
2.
CBJ
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (BOS)
  2. Choix de 5e ronde en 2025 (BOS)
Détails additionnels:
TDL 2025
BOS
  1. Provorov, Ivan (2 362 500 $ retained)
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2026 (CBJ)
Détails additionnels:
5th for another team to retain an additional $1,181,250. Boston gets a solid 2nd-pair LD that can play anywhere in the lineup, assuming Grzelcyk isn't back.
3.
CBJ
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (CBJ)
PHI
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (CBJ)
Détails additionnels:
2024 2nd is deferred to 2025.
4.
CBJ
  1. Skinner, Jeff
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2025 (BUF)
Détails additionnels:
Columbus gets the more reliable player, and gets a pick to compensate for age/contract.
BUF
  1. Laine, Patrik
Détails additionnels:
Both teams look to shake up the forward core after a disappointing season. Buffalo gets the younger player with higher upside, but with injury risk.
5.
CBJ
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2025 (TBL)
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2026 (TBL)
Détails additionnels:
Picks to further the rebuild. Kuraly likely re-signs in Columbus in 2025, but appreciates a playoff shot.
TBL
  1. Kuraly, Sean (1 250 000 $ retained)
Détails additionnels:
Tampa adds a gritty utility 4th-line center for cheap for another playoff run.
6.
CBJ
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (TOR)
Détails additionnels:
Send out a UFA to upgrade a pick and move up a year to add some more quality to the prospect pool.
ARI
  1. Danforth, Justin
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2026 (NYR)
Détails additionnels:
Arizona surprises people next year, and with big strides taken by Cooley and Guenther push for the playoffs. They add a utility player to fill out the lineup and get some depth, at the cost of just downgrading one of four 2025 2nds to a 4th a year later.
7.
CBJ
  1. Choix de 6e ronde en 2024 (EDM)
Détails additionnels:
At the 2024 draft, Bean's rights get traded for a late pick.
EDM
  1. Bean, Jake [Droits de RFA]
Détails additionnels:
Edmonton gets a young, cheap depth NHL D-man who can move the puck, has a lot of experience, and likely signs for league minimum.
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Enfoui
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2024
Logo de CBJ
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Logo de LAK
Logo de CBJ
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Logo de EDM
2025
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Logo de BOS
Logo de TOR
Logo de CBJ
Logo de BUF
Logo de TBL
Logo de CBJ
Logo de CBJ
Logo de BOS
Logo de CBJ
Logo de CBJ
Logo de VGK
2026
Logo de CBJ
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Logo de TBL
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Logo de CBJ
Logo de PIT
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2387 500 000 $77 138 333 $0 $4 950 000 $10 361 667 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
9 750 000 $9 750 000 $
AG
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
950 000 $950 000 $ (Bonis de performance3 200 000 $$3M)
C
RFA - 2
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
9 000 000 $9 000 000 $
AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
C, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
925 000 $925 000 $
AG, C, AD
RFA - 1
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AD
RFA
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
AG, C, AD
RFA
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
C
RFA
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
AD, AG
RFA
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
891 667 $891 667 $
C
RFA - 2
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
AD, AG
RFA
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
897 500 $897 500 $
C
RFA - 1
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
775 000 $775 000 $
AD
RFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
9 583 333 $9 583 333 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
918 333 $918 333 $ (Bonis de performance1 000 000 $$1M)
DD
RFA - 2
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
1 050 000 $1 050 000 $
G
RFA - 1
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
918 333 $918 333 $ (Bonis de performance750 000 $$750K)
DG
RFA - 2
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
6 250 000 $6 250 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 7
Logo de Capitals de Washington
5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
925 000 $925 000 $
DG/DD
UFA
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
2 600 000 $2 600 000 $
DD
RFA - 1

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28 mars à 12 h 31
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The Buffalo one is unlikely. Skinner has a full NMC and no interest in going anywhere.

I like the Kuemper for Elvis idea. Curious where that came from.
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The Edmonton trade depends on if Ceci is gone and Broberg is still in AHL. But IDK if bean will be a bottom pair defenseman. Bean has potential but I don't think that Edmonton is the place.

Laine to Buffalo is interesting but you're not getting Skinner as he has NMC.

Everything else is pretty good.

Also idea for trading Provorov. Maybe Calgary.
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i don't necissarily hate the Kuemper/Elvis swap, but it's kinda just a meh trade all around.
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28 mars à 13 h 7
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Quoting: squashmaple
The Buffalo one is unlikely. Skinner has a full NMC and no interest in going anywhere.

I like the Kuemper for Elvis idea. Curious where that came from.


Laine has a partial NTC, too. That's the most unlikely trade here IMO, I should have qualified it with all NMC's are waived. Everyone on here seems to have Laine as trade bait so I figured I'd play along for this exercise. FWIW, I'm 100% on the keep Laine train; if he bounces back, he's exactly what we need. If he doesn't, his trade value isn't going to get much lower anyway. It would be dirty to trade him while he's either in or fresh out of the PAP anyway.

Kuemper came from the comments ofthis ACGM. Of A) buyout, B) Campbell, or C) Kuemper, that's definitely my favorite option.
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The Edmonton trade depends on if Ceci is gone and Broberg is still in AHL. But IDK if bean will be a bottom pair defenseman. Bean has potential but I don't think that Edmonton is the place.

Laine to Buffalo is interesting but you're not getting Skinner as he has NMC.

Everything else is pretty good.

Also idea for trading Provorov. Maybe Calgary.


The nice part about Bean is he still has enough potential that he might be able to reach 2nd-pair potential with the right coach/system. EDM definitely depends on how the rest of their D-men shake out, but I figured it would be an interesting target that's a little different from everything else I've seen.

Laine/Skinner is really unrealistic due to NMCs, I agree. I think Columbus should keep Laine anyway, just included him as part of the exercise here.

Calgary could also work, I've seen that elsewhere here, though, and Calgary fans seemed to think it would turn into another Hanifin situation at TDL. That would more likely be an offseason move, too. I'm not opposed to that at all, I just think Columbus is more likely to hang onto him until TDL to both minimize the total salary they'd have to retain, and also let Mateychuk grow in the AHL a little before eventually filling Provorov's role.
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28 mars à 13 h 15
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Quoting: BoringBrianMacLellan
i don't necissarily hate the Kuemper/Elvis swap, but it's kinda just a meh trade all around.


It's definitely not inspiring! But it totally depends on what Washington wants to do, especially with Lindgren playing lights out right now. Maybe it's appealing if they don't think Kuemper is an option anymore, and they want someone with term who can play in the system next season and still be insurance in case Lindgren doesn't stick around after next season. I think Columbus would do it in a heartbeat.
28 mars à 13 h 23
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Just so you know, Provorov can only be retained one more time. Only allowed to retain twice on a contract. LA is currently retaining salary for him.
28 mars à 13 h 36
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Just so you know, Provorov can only be retained one more time. Only allowed to retain twice on a contract. LA is currently retaining salary for him.


For some reason I thought it was 3 retentions on a contract, I should have checked on that. You're 100% right. Boston may or may not have that space next year, with 21.5M in projected cap space and DeBrusk and Swayman to re-sign (though I doubt their other UFAs come back, or at least don't come back at the current rate or more).
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For some reason I thought it was 3 retentions on a contract, I should have checked on that. You're 100% right. Boston may or may not have that space next year, with 21.5M in projected cap space and DeBrusk and Swayman to re-sign (though I doubt their other UFAs come back, or at least don't come back at the current rate or more).


The 3 retentions you are probably thinking of is, a team can only retain on 3 different contracts at any one time.
I think the deal would be cheap enough like that for them to afford, if they wanted to go that route.
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The Bruins will want Lorhei in a prime spot next year and Wotherspoon has been a revelation. I really can't see the pick deprived B's giving up a 1st rounder for Provorov. They may also be kicking the tires on Hanfin.
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Sabres decline
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Boston declines.

Provorov doesn’t fit the culture and they have the cap room to sign someone without giving up their first.
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Quoting: CaseyFlyman

Kuemper came from the comments ofthis ACGM. Of A) buyout, B) Campbell, or C) Kuemper, that's definitely my favorite option.


Regarding the other trades:
1. I'm not sure Provorov goes to Boston. I could see him going to Tampa, especially if Sergachev gets injured again and if they don't get Hanifin. New Jersey are another option. LA need a player like him, but they unfortunately already retain on him, which lowers his value to them. Edmonton could also be an option. Or Calgary.
2. I just don't want to or think the Blue Jackets trade Laine until he is a PPG player again, unless he specifically requests a trade. I'm not against trading him in the long run, I just don't see it happening before the 2025 off-season.
3. I'm fine with trading Kuraly and Danforth at the TDL. With Voronkov and Sillinger in the line-up as well as Brindley coming up, they are all redundant. I don't know if Danforth returns a 2nd, though. But hey, if several teams really like him, maybe.
4. Do you think Bean will sign for league minimum? I expect him to sign for around $2.5M. I don't know if Edmonton would be willing to pay that for a third-pair guy like Bean, given their cap situation.
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It's definitely not inspiring! But it totally depends on what Washington wants to do, especially with Lindgren playing lights out right now. Maybe it's appealing if they don't think Kuemper is an option anymore, and they want someone with term who can play in the system next season and still be insurance in case Lindgren doesn't stick around after next season. I think Columbus would do it in a heartbeat.


The problem with getting a goalie with term back is Clay Stevenson is making a really nice case this year in Hershey to be strongly considered for the backup position in DC next year. But the Caps have plenty of cap space in the next couple of years, so who knows
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Tampa Bay declines. They have their gritty 4th line C for next season already - Glendening.
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Regarding the Merzlikins-Kuemper swap straight-up: I've looked into that a bit more. It seems that a Kuemper buyout is significantly more expensive than a Merzlikins buyout, particularly in the first three years. With that in mind, I don't think this is a good idea for the Blue Jackets. They are going to need that cap space in the 2025 and 2026 off-season when their young players are getting new contracts and they get other players to improve their team.
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The nice part about Bean is he still has enough potential that he might be able to reach 2nd-pair potential with the right coach/system. EDM definitely depends on how the rest of their D-men shake out, but I figured it would be an interesting target that's a little different from everything else I've seen.

Laine/Skinner is really unrealistic due to NMCs, I agree. I think Columbus should keep Laine anyway, just included him as part of the exercise here.

Calgary could also work, I've seen that elsewhere here, though, and Calgary fans seemed to think it would turn into another Hanifin situation at TDL. That would more likely be an offseason move, too. I'm not opposed to that at all, I just think Columbus is more likely to hang onto him until TDL to both minimize the total salary they'd have to retain, and also let Mateychuk grow in the AHL a little before eventually filling Provorov's role.


Fair point on Laine as I also agree but I think that he will still be traded
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28 mars à 20 h 58
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Regarding the other trades:
1. I'm not sure Provorov goes to Boston. I could see him going to Tampa, especially if Sergachev gets injured again and if they don't get Hanifin. New Jersey are another option. LA need a player like him, but they unfortunately already retain on him, which lowers his value to them. Edmonton could also be an option. Or Calgary.
2. I just don't want to or think the Blue Jackets trade Laine until he is a PPG player again, unless he specifically requests a trade. I'm not against trading him in the long run, I just don't see it happening before the 2025 off-season.
3. I'm fine with trading Kuraly and Danforth at the TDL. With Voronkov and Sillinger in the line-up as well as Brindley coming up, they are all redundant. I don't know if Danforth returns a 2nd, though. But hey, if several teams really like him, maybe.
4. Do you think Bean will sign for league minimum? I expect him to sign for around $2.5M. I don't know if Edmonton would be willing to pay that for a third-pair guy like Bean, given their cap situation.


1. I agree, Tampa seems like the most likely option, but I had seen quite a few of those so I wanted to try a different direction.
2. I also agree, which I outlined better in a response to @squashmaple. Just part of the exercise.
3. Ditto
4. I don't think he'll sign for more than ~$1.5M. He's been okay on one of the worst defensive teams in hockey, as a 3rd-pair guy. If I were him, I'd take a 1-year near-min deal with a contender that plays a wide-open offensive style and see if he can parlay that into a 4-5 year deal worth more in 2025. I could see Edmonton fitting that bill.

This is all very good feedback, thanks!
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29 mars à 1 h 53
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Do you see clb absolutely targeting a F at the draft or do you also see them drafting one of the Ds?
31 mars à 21 h 9
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Do you see clb absolutely targeting a F at the draft or do you also see them drafting one of the Ds?


I think Columbus is taking best player available. The only thing we don't really need is LD (with Mateychuk, Werenski, and a boatload of other left-shot D in the system), but we need star talent everywhere. I could see Levshunov if we're picking in the top-3 and Anaheim is either below us or doesn't take him for some reason, since Jiricek is the only RD in the system with NHL-regular potential.
 
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