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Zegras and Kakko

Créé par: TMLBRIAN
Équipe: 2024-25 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 24 mars 2024
Publié: 24 mars 2024
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Rangers get a cost controlled bottom pair or 7th RD. Late 1st + Late 2nd. Montreal get a good defensive, young winger, who has some potential offence upside.

Anaheim get a top 10 pick, a RD prospect and a replacement level C. Motnreal get a star forward, who fits the age of their group.

Thoughts?
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
21 400 000 $
42 500 000 $
Transactions
1.
MTL
  1. Kakko, Kaapo [Droits de RFA]
NYR
  1. Kovacevic, Johnathan
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (WPG)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (COL)
2.
ANA
  1. Barron, Justin [Droits de RFA]
  2. Dvorak, Christian
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (MTL)
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2024
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2025
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2026
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2287 700 000 $73 047 083 $1 022 500 $3 977 500 $14 652 917 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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7 850 000 $7 850 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 7
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7 875 000 $7 875 000 $
C
UFA - 6
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950 000 $950 000 $ (Bonis de performance3 500 000 $$4M)
AD, AG
RFA - 1
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2 900 000 $2 900 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 3
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5 750 000 $5 750 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 2
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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835 000 $835 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
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3 362 500 $3 362 500 $
C, AD
RFA - 2
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
AD
RFA
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3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
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1 700 000 $1 700 000 $
C
UFA - 1
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6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 3
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812 500 $812 500 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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4 875 000 $4 875 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance420 000 $$420K)
DG/DD
RFA - 1
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890 000 $890 000 $
G
RFA - 1
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1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
DG/DD
RFA
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3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
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3 150 000 $3 150 000 $
G
UFA - 3
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867 500 $867 500 $ (Bonis de performance57 500 $$58K)
DG
RFA - 1
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875 000 $875 000 $
DD
RFA - 2
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1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
DG/DD
RFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 2

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24 mars à 15 h 21
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Way too much to give up for Kakko
24 mars à 15 h 22
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Rangers tell the Habs to take a hike and then offer the Leafs Jonny Brodzinski for Knies.
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24 mars à 15 h 35
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Anahekms not taking bad cap the other way in a Zegras trade, and it needs to be a Beck level prospect, not a bottom pairing guy like Barron.
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24 mars à 15 h 40
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Dvorak isn't a plus to a team whose first two centers are Leo Carlsson and Mason McTavish. Replace him with a 2025 second, or give us Owen Beck or Filip Mesar.

Quoting: canucksfan43
Way too much to give up for Kakko


Quoting: Onlyfairtrades1
Rangers tell the Habs to take a hike and then offer the Leafs Jonny Brodzinski for Knies.

Well, there's two points of view.
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24 mars à 15 h 59
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Quoting: Onlyfairtrades1
Rangers tell the Habs to take a hike and then offer the Leafs Jonny Brodzinski for Knies.


Ur username couldn't be more ironic
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24 mars à 16 h 0
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No cap dumps will be accepted in a Zegras trade or they must be paid to ship out

Pass from Anaheim
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24 mars à 16 h 27
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Kappo not worth a 1st or a 2nd, colosal overpay by MTL

Zegras not worth a top 5 or top 10 pick, overpay by MTL
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24 mars à 16 h 31
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Rangers don’t need a depth defenseman or picks. They need a RW aka Kakko
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24 mars à 16 h 34
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Quoting: canucksfan43
Way too much to give up for Kakko


Yea probably but the Rangers also don’t need picks or a depth defenseman either
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Quoting: GiggywithGibby
Anahekms not taking bad cap the other way in a Zegras trade, and it needs to be a Beck level prospect, not a bottom pairing guy like Barron.


Respectfully I wouldn’t do Barron like that. He has a real top4 potential. Offensive game is not bad at all. He’s stuck behind Mailloux Xhekaj Guhle Reinbacher. On the other hand, Owen Beck potential is limited. Would be EXTREMELY surprised to see him become a top6 guy. He’s an elite shutdown 3C who wins every faceoff and doesn’t make mistakes at all. He’s nice to have, but if you want a better prospect, there’s Oliver Kapanen, probably the most underrated prospect. Just look at what he’s currently doing in the LIGA playoffs right now. Against men!! It’s impressive.
24 mars à 16 h 35
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Quoting: GeneralLandro
No cap dumps will be accepted in a Zegras trade or they must be paid to ship out

Pass from Anaheim



Brother you have McGinn on your 4th line I don’t think Dvo would hurt you with the 30M in cap you have.
24 mars à 17 h 3
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Quoting: batman
Respectfully I wouldn’t do Barron like that. He has a real top4 potential. Offensive game is not bad at all. He’s stuck behind Mailloux Xhekaj Guhle Reinbacher. On the other hand, Owen Beck potential is limited. Would be EXTREMELY surprised to see him become a top6 guy. He’s an elite shutdown 3C who wins every faceoff and doesn’t make mistakes at all. He’s nice to have, but if you want a better prospect, there’s Oliver Kapanen, probably the most underrated prospect. Just look at what he’s currently doing in the LIGA playoffs right now. Against men!! It’s impressive.


Eh, I mean, it doesn't HAVE to be Beck, just a beck tier piece. I'm not as warm on Barron as you are, if there was true top 4 potential there, I think Colorado would have been more hesitant to move him. And claiming he's buried behind Wifi isn't a great statement for him.

Maybe Kapanen, not super familiar with the Hand prospects outside what I can read on dobber prospect and THW.

As to having McGinn, yeah, he's technically on the roster, buts he's spent almost as much time on IR as Zegras. We were hoping he'd help out the bottom 6 but it hasn't materializes, he doesn't fit our new system at all.

Dvorak got a contract that was supposed to see him grow into a 2C, but he never really took off and now is an overpaid 3rd liner who's not healthy all that often, and his real money owed sucks compared to his cap hit, which isn't great for a team with poor gate revenue.
24 mars à 17 h 16
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Habs not giving away 5 or 6 OA for Z
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24 mars à 17 h 35
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
Dvorak isn't a plus to a team whose first two centers are Leo Carlsson and Mason McTavish. Replace him with a 2025 second, or give us Owen Beck or Filip Mesar.




Well, there's two points of view.


Not getting 5th + Beck/Mesar+ Barron for Zegras that is 3 1sts worth of value
24 mars à 19 h 4
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Quoting: Campabee
Not getting 5th + Beck/Mesar+ Barron for Zegras that is 3 1sts worth of value


Drop Barron. And honestly even then I’m not convinced Verbeek would take it, but he’d for sure think long and hard about it
24 mars à 20 h 15
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Drop Barron. And honestly even then I’m not convinced Verbeek would take it, but he’d for sure think long and hard about it


Not getting 5th OVA for Zegras, one of Eiserman or Lindstrom are likely available and they have an equal or higher ceiling ot Zegras, so we just take our chances with them.
24 mars à 23 h 11
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Quoting: Campabee
Not getting 5th OVA for Zegras, one of Eiserman or Lindstrom are likely available and they have an equal or higher ceiling ot Zegras, so we just take our chances with them.


You’re arguing the wrong guy. I’m simply responding to yet another MTL post saying what it would take. There’s not a Duck fan on this platform posting Zegras trades. It’s not me you’ve gotta talk to my man.
25 mars à 6 h 59
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You’re arguing the wrong guy. I’m simply responding to yet another MTL post saying what it would take. There’s not a Duck fan on this platform posting Zegras trades. It’s not me you’ve gotta talk to my man.


You are the one who said you arent convinced Verbeek would take 5th ++ for Zegras, I am simply saying that the Habs wouldn't offer it
25 mars à 12 h 33
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You are the one who said you arent convinced Verbeek would take 5th ++ for Zegras, I am simply saying that the Habs wouldn't offer it


You know this isn’t my ACGM, and that in this ACGM the proposal includes the MTL 1st for Zegras right?

Also, not sure why you guys all of a sudden are sure it’s 5th overall. You’re sitting 6th from the bottom, tied with OTT who’s 7th, and even in 6th the odds are higher that the pick is #7/8 than 6th or better
25 mars à 12 h 52
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Quoting: Jded
You know this isn’t my ACGM, and that in this ACGM the proposal includes the MTL 1st for Zegras right?

Also, not sure why you guys all of a sudden are sure it’s 5th overall. You’re sitting 6th from the bottom, tied with OTT who’s 7th, and even in 6th the odds are higher that the pick is #7/8 than 6th or better


Ottawa's winning % is similar and are tied with us in points but Ottawa and Arizona both have better records over the last 10 games and easier schedules ahead (Montreal's has the 2nd hardest remaining schedule)
25 mars à 13 h 2
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Quoting: Campabee
Ottawa's winning % is similar and are tied with us in points but Ottawa and Arizona both have better records over the last 10 games and easier schedules ahead (Montreal's has the 2nd hardest remaining schedule)


If Arizona passes MTL and OTT stays ahead, MTL has a 58%+ chance of drafting 6th/7th. And that’s as far down the standings as they can reasonably fall. The odds are significantly higher that MTL is 6th-8th than 5th+
 
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