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Créé par: evelutions2

Équipe: 2024-25 Hurricanes de la Caroline

Date de création initiale: 16 mars 2024

Publié: 16 mars 2024

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

3rd pair is just stopgaps until Morrow and Nikishin are brought up.

Prospects who could make pushes or are expected to land a roster spot over the next year:
J. Blake
F. Unger-Sorum
S. Morrow (after NCAA season is finished, expected)
A. Nikishin (after KHL contract expires, expected)

With the cap rising and a Jarvis bridge deal (would much rather long term), Canes have enough salary coming off the books and enough prospects that should make the roster over the course of the next 2 seasons, that they can extend both Marner and Slavin with relative ease.

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

RFA		ANS	CAP HIT
Jarvis, Seth		3	4 000 000 $
Smith, Ty		3	800 000 $

UFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Guentzel, Jake	8	7 750 000 $
Martin, Spencer	1	1 000 000 $
Chatfield, Jalen	4	2 000 000 $
Teräväinen, Teuvo	7	4 000 000 $
Noesen, Stefan	4	2 000 000 $
Motte, Tyler	1	1 000 000 $
Miller, Colin	1	2 000 000 $
Jones, Caleb	1	900 000 $

Transactions

CAR

Marner, Mitchell (5 451 500 $ retained)

Détails additionnels:

Assuming he waives after Toronto gets knocked out early again. 3rd party eats the retention for whatever, too lazy to do.

TOR

Necas, Martin [Droits de RFA]
Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (CAR)

Détails additionnels:

Condition 1st depending on Guentzel trade. If the 1st is transferred in the Guentzel trade, this 1st becomes a 2025 unprotected 1st.

CAR

Retention for Marner. What would be the price.

CHI

CAR

Trade is only made assuming both Necas and Marner will be willing to extend with their new clubs. No extensions are agreed upon before the trade.

TOR

CAR

Choix de 6e ronde en 2024 (BOS)
Choix de 7e ronde en 2025 (BOS)
Choix de 2e ronde en 2026 (BOS)

BOS

Drury, Jack [Droits de RFA]

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2024
2025
2026

FORMATION

VUE À LONG TERME

INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
23	87 500 000 $	86 926 500 $	0 $	0 $	573 500 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Guentzel, Jake 7 750 000 $7 750 000 $ AG, AD UFA	Aho, Sebastian 9 750 000 $9 750 000 $ C NMC UFA - 8	Marner, Mitchell 5 451 500 $5 451 500 $ AD NMC UFA - 1
Svechnikov, Andrei 7 750 000 $7 750 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 5	Kuznetsov, Evgeny 3 900 000 $3 900 000 $ C M-NTC UFA - 1	Jarvis, Seth 4 000 000 $4 000 000 $ AD RFA
Teräväinen, Teuvo 4 000 000 $4 000 000 $ AG, AD UFA	Kotkaniemi, Jesperi 4 820 000 $4 820 000 $ C UFA - 6	Noesen, Stefan 2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ AG, AD UFA
Motte, Tyler 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ AG, AD UFA	Staal, Jordan 2 900 000 $2 900 000 $ C, AG NMC UFA - 3	Fast, Jesper 2 400 000 $2 400 000 $ AD M-NTC UFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Slavin, Jaccob 5 300 000 $5 300 000 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 1	Burns, Brent 5 280 000 $5 280 000 $ DD M-NTC UFA - 1	Andersen, Frederik 3 400 000 $3 400 000 $ G M-NTC UFA - 1
Orlov, Dmitry 7 750 000 $7 750 000 $ DG UFA - 1	Chatfield, Jalen 2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ DD UFA	Kochetkov, Pyotr 2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ G UFA - 3
Smith, Ty 800 000 $800 000 $ DG/DD RFA	Miller, Colin 2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ DD UFA

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Martin, Spencer 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ G UFA - 1
Jones, Caleb 900 000 $900 000 $ DG/DD UFA
Lemieux, Brendan 775 000 $775 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1

16 mars à 11 h 53

Hawksguy81

Rejoint: nov. 2022

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50% retention on Marner costs another 1st at a minimum. See the Patty Marleau trade as a reference. And if it's a late 1st two drafts away, it likely takes more.

CowanDeBrabarian a aimé ceci.

16 mars à 11 h 58

MitchJr

Rejoint: janv. 2023

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Canes fans rule 😂🤣 - hard to get anyone to care about your team unless you involve Leafs Nation somehow. Makes total sense that Marner leaves hometown and centre of hockey universe to play for a small market team 🤦🏻. Despite playing in the easier division, I’ll take Leafs chances in playoffs over Canes any day

16 mars à 12 h 0

itzRavai

Rejoint: janv. 2024

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Quoting: MitchJr

I’ll take Leafs chances in playoffs over Canes any day

I audibly laughed

Caniac2000, fullblowncaniac90, Garak and 2 others a aimé ceci.

16 mars à 12 h 0

MitchJr

Rejoint: janv. 2023

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Quoting: itzRavai

I audibly laughed

🥱

16 mars à 12 h 1

Caniac2000

Rejoint: mai 2018

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Quoting: Hawksguy81

50% retention on Marner costs another 1st at a minimum. See the Patty Marleau trade as a reference. And if it's a late 1st two drafts away, it likely takes more.

That was more than 6 million in a flat cap, you're not going to get a 1st for 5 mill in retention with the cap starting to jump again. Bad comparable, look more closely to the Bailey dump, since that was actually slightly more than the Marner retention would be.

Either way it doesn't matter because Necas + for rental Marner is a beyond stupid premise to begin with.

Jco5ta5 a aimé ceci.

16 mars à 12 h 2

Caniac2000

Rejoint: mai 2018

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Quoting: MitchJr

That's why the Canes won more playoff series last season than the Leafs have in the Cap era huh?

16 mars à 12 h 7

ecupirate07

Rejoint: juin 2020

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Quoting: itzRavai

I audibly laughed

2 posters not worth engaging are Mitchjr and Caniac2000. They both give incoherent homer takes on the regular

evelutions2, CowanDeBrabarian et fullblowncaniac90 a aimé ceci.

16 mars à 12 h 14

MitchJr

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Quoting: Caniac2000

That's why the Canes won more playoff series last season than the Leafs have in the Cap era huh?

Easier division; as soon as you play an Atlantic team you get 🧹 😂. But keep hanging those series winner banners bud. Either way, Marner ain’t waiving for Carolina

16 mars à 12 h 16

Caniac2000

Rejoint: mai 2018

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Quoting: MitchJr

Easier division; as soon as you play an Atlantic team you get 🧹 😂. But keep hanging those series winner banners bud. Either way, Marner ain’t waiving for Carolina

Cool, keep him. You think the Metro's easier than the Atlantic? Seriously? That's why there have been more Stanley Cup winning teams from the Metropolitan than the Atlantic since the realignment, right? So much easier! So easy in fact, you lost to Columbus and Washington in series... not like it matters, you'll be bounced by Tampa in round 1. Keep crying, and enjoy the long summer again

16 mars à 12 h 24

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MitchJr

Rejoint: janv. 2023

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Quoting: Caniac2000

Hit a nerve 😂?
1/ you just got swept - fact.
2/ past 5 Eastern Conf finalists from Atlantic - fact

But keep posting Leafs trades champ 😂; they are completely preposterous - like this one - but at least you’ll guarantee people will actually care enough to pay attention

16 mars à 12 h 35

#11

Hawksguy81

Rejoint: nov. 2022

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Quoting: Caniac2000

And I'd counter the Bailey dump isn't a better comparable. Bailey's cap hit to the Hawks is $2.66m this season and $1.2m next. That's $3.8m for a 2nd. Mariners $5.4m cap hit retention easily costs a 1st, especially since there would only be a few teams who would even be candidates to take it on.

CowanDeBrabarian a aimé ceci.

16 mars à 12 h 35

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Caniac2000

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Quoting: MitchJr

Oof, Almost like the Canes were missing their 2 best wingers while their third was playing with a broken hand... might have had something to do with it.
Your statement is incorrect. In 2021, there was no Atlantic division, so neither team in the finals counts as an Atlantic team. And if the division is so good, why don't you ever come out of it? Carolina have been to the ECF twice in the last six years. Last time Toronto made the Eastern Conference Finals, they got beat by.... oh would you look at that in 2002!

16 mars à 12 h 37

#13

Caniac2000

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Quoting: Hawksguy81

Bailey's contract was 5.5 though, was more my point. Yes, you bought it out in the end, but you have to pay it over multiple years. 5 for 1 year on Marner is a 2nd at most. The cap jumping proves it, and Marleau was north of 6 for a 1st.

16 mars à 12 h 41

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Jco5ta5

Hawks Fan

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Quoting: Caniac2000

I lean more towards your side on this. Recent history is 3rd 4th or 5th to be the third wheel in these deals.

16 mars à 12 h 47

#15

MitchJr

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Quoting: Caniac2000

Injuries 😂. I’d work on some new excuses for this year 🧹 🧹 🧹

16 mars à 13 h 27

#16

sharcuda22

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Quoting: itzRavai

I audibly laughed

It is hard to argue against all of the leafs success in the playoffs recently

CowanDeBrabarian a aimé ceci.

16 mars à 13 h 38

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Caniac2000

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Quoting: Jco5ta5

I lean more towards your side on this. Recent history is 3rd 4th or 5th to be the third wheel in these deals.

I think it should be more than that. This is still 5 million against the cap for a year. A 2nd is where I'd place it. It's not the 6+ million of Marleau, but it's not the 800k we're eating to have made the Lybushkin deal possible.

16 mars à 13 h 38

#18

Caniac2000

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Quoting: MitchJr

Injuries 😂. I’d work on some new excuses for this year 🧹 🧹 🧹

Oh yeah, maybe you can give me some ideas, what have you got for your next first round elimination?

16 mars à 15 h 28

#19

Jco5ta5

Hawks Fan

Rejoint: juill. 2019

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Quoting: Caniac2000

To clarify, Marner would go to the Hawks with his full $10.9M, then the Hawks would retain 50% (so 5.45M) to go to Carolina? Toronto is not retaining?

16 mars à 16 h 48

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Caniac2000

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Quoting: Jco5ta5

To clarify, Marner would go to the Hawks with his full $10.9M, then the Hawks would retain 50% (so 5.45M) to go to Carolina? Toronto is not retaining?

I'm guessing so since the ACGM has Marner at half hit, not quarter.

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Game changer

Description

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

Transactions

CAR

TOR

CAR

CHI

CAR

TOR

CAR

BOS

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