Rangers don't even consider that absurd offer.

tampa declines

Rangers laugh and pass

What if retention is added?

Not even that it’s just edmundson isn’t really what Tampa is looking for

I'd argue otherwise but agree to disagree. Tampa needs defensive help, whether from the Caps or someone else, but don't have the assets to go after a Hanifin or another top dman at the deadline

Rags are going to overpay on a center this deadline. They're reportedly in on Henrique but may not have the cap space to make that work. Dowd at that price would garner a comparable return.

They could get hanifin if they wanted

They’re not gonna fill the center hole and open up a hole at RW lol

If they want Dowd you’d get picks

Can the Leafs get retention or is that too big of an ask?

I don't see how that is even possible for them. What prospects/picks do they have to cobble a deal together? The ask is multiple 1sts/A level prospects.

I could see retention being possible, but the cost would likely increase by a bit, due to Jensen having term on his contract.

How much for 25%

I'm going in with the assumption that Rags are going to acquire a winger to replace Kakko in a separate deal anyways, so he'd be moving out to fix the logjam.

I would say an addition of a midround pick or low B/C-tier prospect. Could also see Leafs moving on from Robertson instead of shipping out a handful of picks.

I like Jensen - he’s be good add for leafs but $4M might just be too much. Anything around $3M & I’m in - may require a few changes due to retention but doable

They need a top line RW and a 3C… this trade means they would now need two RWs

Doesn’t help them

In all likelihood, Patches probably gets a 3rd or a conditional 4th that upgrades to a 3rd based on GP or amount of points generated. With all the injuries and whatnot, he isn’t getting a 2nd unless he really picks up his offense.

There's nothing specific on the Hanifin ask, and Tampa does have the pieces to make a.solid offer. Even more so if Hanifin only wants to extend with a select few teams, thereby likely reducing what other teams may be willing to offer for just a rental. In any case, there are quite a few better options that Tampa should be paying a 3rd or.more for rather than Edmundson.

Yea, I'll admit what I put is a bit of an overpay. He has been playing fairly well as of late so it's not completely overboard.

Like what? Specifically what would Tampa have to offer if there were say 5 teams making offers on him?

Edmonton says no. Not sure how Mantha replaces Kane “lack” of production when their numbers are nearly identical this season. Maybe Manthas exposure playing it’s McD or Drai boosts his numbers but by how much to justify paying as much as you have indicated here? Same with Charlie, his numbers are hardly better then skinners or pickards numbers and I mean hardly decimal places better, the price to pay for either player for very slight upgrades isn’t worth it.. there are better players available that fill other the same or other holes that would theoretically boost Kanes or either of the oilers current goalies numbers. Also, if Brobergs value is as low as you say then why would they trade him right now if the return he could fetch is so low? Although apparently his okay before his injury in the nhl as increased his value. Regardless, I’m very certain Kulak is going to be traded either this deadline for an upgrade/cap casualty or in the offseason for the same reason. The idea is Broberg takes his place in the 3rd pair as his cap hit is minimal and he is now NHL ready, especially as a 3rd pairing dman.

Leafs do that yeah

Tampa has Howard, Gauthier, Thompson, Duke, Huuhtanen, as well as other prospects that could be involved if needed. They would also likely move the '26 1st, '25 2nd, young roster players such as Perbix/Lilleberg/Crozier. Hanifin has also identified Tampa as a preferred destination(along with 2 or 3 other teams). Tampa could put a good offer together, especially if they were confident that Hanifin was re-signing. Regardless, Edmundson has not been linked to Tampa, and there are several other dmen, at least, that Tampa should be looking at before settling for a 6/7 like Edmundson.

I could care less if Tampa is on Edmundson or not but just because it hasn’t been reported that they are doesn’t mean they’re not looking at all options.

NH has an 8 team no trade list. He could tell Calgary he only wants to be traded to Tampa and that still wouldn’t work in Tampa’s favour.

Every player you’ve mentioned absolutely does not move the needle in Tampa’s favour. Several teams out bid Tampa easily. Calgary has said they wanted a CG like return. Not a single prospect mentioned is anywhere near Tippet. You could argue at the time each player was drafted they had similar potential but none has shown Tippet potential at time of trade. The roster players you mentioned aren’t good lol perbix is a ufa in after next season, him included in a trade for NH only waters down more valuable assets in a trade.