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Tkachuk is not going anywhere for your crappy quantity packages

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Équipe: 2023-24 Sénateurs d'Ottawa
Date de création initiale: 26 févr. 2024
Publié: 26 févr. 2024
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    Any team that inquires, it would take a massive offer to get and it wont be a couple of late 1sts and older players or prospects.

    The core building block is Tkachuk, Stutzle and Sanderson. If the sens move tkachuk, someone has to replace him building block wise.

    Guys like Buchnevich and Ullmark are not valued in a tkachuk trade. We dont value their 1.5 years left because we arent going for the cup and we dont want to extend them into their late 30s.

    So think again before making a brutal package. Its gonna cost you someone you absolutely DO NOT want to move
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    26 févr. à 9 h 57
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    What if we add in a 2025 4th rounder?
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    I don't know why OTT is even entertaining moving him. He's signed at a really good number for the next 5 plus years. I have no clue why management would be disenchanted with him. I don't like him but that's because he doesn't play on my team.
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    Devils could use him. I don't know what they would pay, or if that would meet the asking price, but we sure could use him.
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    Devils could use him. I don't know what they would pay, or if that would meet the asking price, but we sure could use him.


    if its not a Nemec/McTavish young piece or Elias Pettersson level roster player under 26 becoming available, the Sens hang up the phone GUARANTEED
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    I don't know why OTT is even entertaining moving him. He's signed at a really good number for the next 5 plus years. I have no clue why management would be disenchanted with him. I don't like him but that's because he doesn't play on my team.


    theyre not. surely Whitney did it for engagement.
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    What if we add in a 2025 4th rounder?


    should've made it 2027
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    if its not a Nemec/McTavish young piece or Elias Pettersson level roster player under 26 becoming available, the Sens hang up the phone GUARANTEED


    Brady Tkachuk isn’t worth McTavish Nemec or Pettersson
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    Brady Tkachuk isn’t worth McTavish Nemec or Pettersson


    Dude Brady is not available stfu . We dont want Holtz, Casey and picks. Not anywhere close to enough. Stop talking
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    Funny story…one time I got banned for a month because I posted about the Canes not trading Necas for JT Miller. CapFriendly told me I was not the sole decision maker about what other users are posting. 😀
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    Dude Brady is not available stfu . We dont want Holtz, Casey and picks. Not anywhere close to enough. Stop talking


    Brady is a star winger who hits. Hes not the superstar you’re thinking of.

    Fiala, Debrincat, Meier, etc packages.

    You’re thinking he’s Matthew. He’s really not
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    What about a trade with Kyrou as a starting point for Tkachuk?

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    if its not a Nemec/McTavish young piece or Elias Pettersson level roster player under 26 becoming available, the Sens hang up the phone GUARANTEED
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    Brady is a star winger who hits. Hes not the superstar you’re thinking of.

    Fiala, Debrincat, Meier, etc packages.

    You’re thinking he’s Matthew. He’s really not


    Brady is worth A LOT more than those players.

    NOT A SINGLE GM values any of those guys close to Brady, i can 100000% guarantee u that
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    What about a trade with Kyrou as a starting point for Tkachuk?


    nope. Kyrou isnt the type of player we want or will help us reach the next level
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    Nobody really believes OTT is moving him anyway
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    Nobody really believes OTT is moving him anyway


    yeah agree
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    nope. Kyrou isnt the type of player we want or will help us reach the next level


    Out of curiousity, What type of player are you looking for? I don't actually think Ottawa will move him until 2028 and most trades in my mind would be sort of lateral moves for star players.
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    Out of curiousity, What type of player are you looking for? I don't actually think Ottawa will move him until 2028 and most trades in my mind would be sort of lateral moves for star players.


    I named my pieces above. Has to be a piece that projects to be elite or is elite
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    Brady is worth A LOT more than those players.

    NOT A SINGLE GM values any of those guys close to Brady, i can 100000% guarantee u that


    And why is that? Again what does he bring to the table to seperate himself from those guys at the time of those trades (specifically Meier)?
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    if its not a Nemec/McTavish young piece or Elias Pettersson level roster player under 26 becoming available, the Sens hang up the phone GUARANTEED


    What’s Mason got to do with this??
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    What’s Mason got to do with this??


    I just put him as an example
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    And why is that? Again what does he bring to the table to seperate himself from those guys at the time of those trades (specifically Meier)?


    Hes under contract with term
    Hes 24
    Hes a captain
    Very physical
    Cannot be moved from the front of the net
    Almost impossible to win a 50/50 battle with him anywhere
    Can take faceoffs
    Willing to fight and stick for his teammates
    Great playmaker
    Scores clutch goals
    Gets a lot of second and third chance goals
    35-40 goal scorer guaranteed every year and could get even better
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    Why is Tkachuk even on the block?

    Canes have Necas and Pesce for a deal we can work
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    Why is Tkachuk even on the block?

    Canes have Necas and Pesce for a deal we can work


    Ottawa wont do that. Necas isnt a Staios player and Pesce has heavily regressed and not worth a 7 x 7
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    Hes under contract with term
    Hes 24
    Hes a captain
    Very physical
    Cannot be moved from the front of the net
    Almost impossible to win a 50/50 battle with him anywhere
    Can take faceoffs
    Willing to fight and stick for his teammates
    Great playmaker
    Scores clutch goals
    Gets a lot of second and third chance goals
    35-40 goal scorer guaranteed every year and could get even better


    -meier had team control leading to term (38.2 mill for the 5 years of Meier after trade vs 41 mill for the 5 years of Tkachuk)
    -fair but the development curve plateaus around 24 so he’s likely at/around his peak level
    -not particularly meaningful
    -Meier is also very physical
    -anecdotal
    -anecdotal
    -not particularly meaningful
    -again not an actual hockey skill and most of his fights are **** stirring not sticking up for anyone
    -Meier had virtually identical assist production before the trade
    -anecdotal
    -so does Meier
    -Meier had better goal production numbers

    Again, the only thing is age and fights.

    Meier had identical if not better production, better defensive metrics, physicality, and a similar contractual cost.
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    -meier had team control leading to term (38.2 mill for the 5 years of Meier after trade vs 41 mill for the 5 years of Tkachuk)
    -fair but the development curve plateaus around 24 so he’s likely at/around his peak level
    -not particularly meaningful
    -Meier is also very physical
    -anecdotal
    -anecdotal
    -not particularly meaningful
    -again not an actual hockey skill and most of his fights are **** stirring not sticking up for anyone
    -Meier had virtually identical assist production before the trade
    -anecdotal
    -so does Meier
    -Meier had better goal production numbers

    Again, the only thing is age and fights.

    Meier had identical if not better production, better defensive metrics, physicality, and a similar contractual cost.


    I saw Tkachuk and Debrincat play on the same team and Debrincat was not anywhere close to tkachuk . Meier is a flop, look at him. Where as Brady will be even better if he goes somewhere else
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