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Équipe: 2023-24 Sabres de Buffalo
Date de création initiale: 14 févr. 2024
Publié: 14 févr. 2024
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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BUF
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2026 (BOS)
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  1. Girgensons, Zemgus (1 250 000 $ retained)
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BUF
  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (COL)
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2025 (COL)
COL
  1. Johnson, Erik (1 612 500 $ retained)
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  1. Niemelä, Topi
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (NYI)
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  1. Bryson, Jacob
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14 févr. à 7 h 43
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You do realize that buffalo’s 2024 first round pick is likely going to be top 10, right? That alone is worth more than Parayko.
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He's a toronto,Philly fan not Buffalo
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14 févr. à 7 h 49
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Quoting: Tjm220
You do realize that buffalo’s 2024 first round pick is likely going to be top 10, right? That alone is worth more than Parayko.


You dont think Parayko is worth a high 1st?

Oloffsson is a cap dump, Kisakov is a meh prospect, so its expiring RFA Jokiharju and the 1st for Parayko. I think its a pretty fair offer.

BUF is sitting pretty with good youngsters/prospects without that 1st
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Yeah that Parayko trade is out of whack, his contract is nasty the next few years. Owed more in actual Salary than Cap hit. And your adding a lot of money.
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Yeah that Parayko trade is out of whack, his contract is nasty the next few years. Owed more in actual Salary than Cap hit. And your adding a lot of money.


Partly true, his actual salary drops in the last 3-4 yrs of the contract to below the cap hit though.

Really theres not tons of 1RD options available though. Especially ones who play pretty good defense and can move puck. I'd love a cernak, but he'll cost far more, whereas Parayko is available because STL needs to move some cap hits. Theres Pesce and Skjei both RD available in UFA, but both will be around that 6.5mil range. But ultimately BUF has dahlin, Power for a long time, but resally need to address the defense being poor by getting some top 4 quality.
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14 févr. à 8 h 21
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Quoting: Hammerwise
Partly true, his actual salary drops in the last 3-4 yrs of the contract to below the cap hit though.

Really theres not tons of 1RD options available though. Especially ones who play pretty good defense and can move puck. I'd love a cernak, but he'll cost far more, whereas Parayko is available because STL needs to move some cap hits. Theres Pesce and Skjei both RD available in UFA, but both will be around that 6.5mil range. But ultimately BUF has dahlin, Power for a long time, but resally need to address the defense being poor by getting some top 4 quality.


Why would any fan care what a players actual salary is versus his cap hit?

Parayko is not available and will not be traded. Bet it.
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14 févr. à 8 h 34
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1 = Boston has zero cap space. Any cap they bring in they have to move out. There is nobody on the roster worth moving out to bring him in.

2 - Boston has a guy who does the same thing he does better and cheaper at Prov that is only there because they don’t have the cap space.

3 - He is not worth a 3rd.
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Send an offer for Faulk. Parayko is not available
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14 févr. à 9 h 24
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Why would any fan care what a players actual salary is versus his cap hit?

Parayko is not available and will not be traded. Bet it.


Cause our owner is cheap
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Quoting: BUFF36
Yeah that Parayko trade is out of whack, his contract is nasty the next few years. Owed more in actual Salary than Cap hit. And your adding a lot of money.


Ehh then it goes below AAV the last few years. He is currently owed like 1M or so less than the remaining cap hit on the rest of his contract, so I'm not sure what point you're trying to make there.
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Quoting: BUFF36
Yeah that Parayko trade is out of whack, his contract is nasty the next few years. Owed more in actual Salary than Cap hit. And your adding a lot of money.


You do realize that’s a good thing right? That gives one the option to buy a player out if they don’t age well into their late 30s.
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Cause our owner is cheap


fair enough
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EJ is not worth 2 picks.
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I feel as if that if the Flyers go for anyone on Buffalo, they'd try and strike a deal for Mittelstadt. Of course the deal would have to be higher than this offer for Krebs, but he's the guy they're supposedly interested in.
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You do realize that’s a good thing right? That gives one the option to buy a player out if they don’t age well into their late 30s.


Well it could be, still doesn't mean are cheap owner is gonna pay the extra money for the next few years.
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Well it could be, still doesn't mean are cheap owner is gonna pay the extra money for the next few years.


That’s fair, in general, he’s been paid more than the AAV with it being fairly front loaded
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Quoting: Hammerwise
You dont think Parayko is worth a high 1st?

Oloffsson is a cap dump, Kisakov is a meh prospect, so its expiring RFA Jokiharju and the 1st for Parayko. I think its a pretty fair offer.

BUF is sitting pretty with good youngsters/prospects without that 1st

Regardless of the other pieces, no he’s not worth a top 10 1st at his age.
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Cause our owner is cheap


Buffalo's owner has money, has given a budget to the front office, and expects improvements. The General Manager has moves to make to keep his job.
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Maybe this all feeds in to what I see as BUF's issue.

Stuck in a long rut of not making the playoffs, laden with tons of high quality youth, some of which cant get a look in, because of the depth, but the wrong mix of players. The defense is too full of young puck rushers, the forwards arent overly physical or two way guys.

They need some solid lunch-pail veterans who might not put up pts, but allow their teammates to continue their development/scoring.

Buffalo doesnt need another top 9 scorer, or a puck rushing/PP blueliner, they need solid two way guys who ae phsycially and mentally tough.

Gooidrow probably isnt the guy, but a Hathaway/Parayko, a reclaimation project in the expensive but physical 25 yr old Peeke, those are the type of players BUF doesn;t have. No offense to Okposo, Girgensons, Stillman, etc.... but they havent been part of the answer for a while.

ANd the idea that BUF owner, who is absolutely loaded, not wanting to spend the money to even approach winning, makes me wonder (as Billy Beane said): "What are we doing here? If we're not playing and spending to the best of our ability to win, are we just wasting our time?"

Theyve now signed Power and Dahlin to huge long term deals, but you're not going to let them develop and play like the superstars theyre paid to be by getting them quality pairing partners?

Look at the expiring vets they have and what theyre paying them, and some of them not even playing: Johnson, Okposo, Girgensons, Jost, Stillman, Oloffson, Robinson, thats almost 18mil, a quarter of the WHOLE cap in middling vets, on a team spending well below the cap and tell me the GM and owner have truly stepped up to compete or at least make the playoffs?

Just wasting part of the careers of these young guys, while sitting on a gold mine of youth
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Quoting: DragonKnight
Buffalo's owner has money, has given a budget to the front office, and expects improvements. The General Manager has moves to make to keep his job.


Are GM has had moves to make for awhile and hasn't done ****. Yes our Owner has a lot of Money, doesn't mean he's not cheap in this aspect.
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Are GM has had moves to make for awhile and hasn't done ****. Yes our Owner has a lot of Money, doesn't mean he's not cheap in this aspect.


Would the Sabres like to return to the days of Darcy Regier? "What not to do as a sports team's General Manager" is what Regier did.
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Would the Sabres like to return to the days of Darcy Regier? "What not to do as a sports team's General Manager" is what Regier did.


Who was the GM the last time the Sabres made the playoffs. Every GM since him has done stupid ****! TM traded everything and destroyed a foundation and Botts got hung out to dry. It all goes back to the Owner thinking he knows more. Dudley didn't even make it through his Salad before the Pegula's told him they knew more. He needs to find a President of Hockey Ops and give him his Budget and go for a Cruise on the Top 5 and come back when the Playoffs start.
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You and I agree on too many subjects my friend.
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Would the Sabres like to return to the days of Darcy Regier? "What not to do as a sports team's General Manager" is what Regier did.
I do not read the Star so I do not know how much influence the hockey writers have on ownership.
Here in Buffalo our press is terrible.
In 1987 our Anencephalic writers wrote "Buffalo Deserves Better" when management fired Scotty Bowman.
Four years later, he went to Pittsburgh and won the Stanley Cup.
In 1997 the writers thought Ted Nolan was the greatest head coach ever.
Management fired John Muckler because there was a difference of opinion between John and Ted that the writers spent too much ink misinforming the public.
Nolan refused to accept a contract the following year and was released by Darcey Regier.
Muckler went on to be a very successful GM and was fired by the Senators after taking the team to the playoffs.
It is interesting that both John and Scotty remained in Buffalo.

There are many more instances in which the press has influenced ownership as they also influenced Pegula to fire Regier.
I can assure you, if Regier was the GM the Sabres would have been in the playoffs 5 years ago.

Tim Murray set the rebuild back at least 6 years.
Botterill got it on the right track with his drafting and trades (four of the five top defensemen, the top 3 centers, top LW and top GK are all his acquisitions).
Adams sits on his hands, sucks up to Terry and lets Jerry Forton run the drafts, Karmanos act a GM, Crow scout the NHL and Ventura run the analytics.
This should have been the year to make the playoffs, but Adams is too risk adverse to make the needed big move.
Since the start of the season added Erik Robinson for at most a 7th round pick, Buffalo will only give up 7th round pick if he plays more than 45 games (an unlikely event as he would need to play in 27 of the remaining 30 games to achieve that milestone).

Well that is my tome for the week.
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BUFF36
You and I agree on too many subjects my friend.
I do not read the Star so I do not know how much influence the hockey writers have on ownership.
Here in Buffalo our press is terrible.
In 1987 our Anencephalic writers wrote "Buffalo Deserves Better" when management fired Scotty Bowman.
Four years later, he went to Pittsburgh and won the Stanley Cup.
In 1997 the writers thought Ted Nolan was the greatest head coach ever.
Management fired John Muckler because there was a difference of opinion between John and Ted that the writers spent too much ink misinforming the public.
Nolan refused to accept a contract the following year and was released by Darcey Regier.
Muckler went on to be a very successful GM and was fired by the Senators after taking the team to the playoffs.
It is interesting that both John and Scotty remained in Buffalo.

There are many more instances in which the press has influenced ownership as they also influenced Pegula to fire Regier.
I can assure you, if Regier was the GM the Sabres would have been in the playoffs 5 years ago.

Tim Murray set the rebuild back at least 6 years.
Botterill got it on the right track with his drafting and trades (four of the five top defensemen, the top 3 centers, top LW and top GK are all his acquisitions).
Adams sits on his hands, sucks up to Terry and lets Jerry Forton run the drafts, Karmanos act a GM, Crow scout the NHL and Ventura run the analytics.
This should have been the year to make the playoffs, but Adams is too risk adverse to make the needed big move.
Since the start of the season added Erik Robinson for at most a 7th round pick, Buffalo will only give up 7th round pick if he plays more than 45 games (an unlikely event as he would need to play in 27 of the remaining 30 games to achieve that milestone).

Well that is my tome for the week.


Good Post ghost
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Quoting: Hammerwise
Maybe this all feeds in to what I see as BUF's issue.

Stuck in a long rut of not making the playoffs, laden with tons of high quality youth, some of which cant get a look in, because of the depth, but the wrong mix of players. The defense is too full of young puck rushers, the forwards arent overly physical or two way guys.

They need some solid lunch-pail veterans who might not put up pts, but allow their teammates to continue their development/scoring.

Buffalo doesnt need another top 9 scorer, or a puck rushing/PP blueliner, they need solid two way guys who ae phsycially and mentally tough.

Gooidrow probably isnt the guy, but a Hathaway/Parayko, a reclaimation project in the expensive but physical 25 yr old Peeke, those are the type of players BUF doesn;t have. No offense to Okposo, Girgensons, Stillman, etc.... but they havent been part of the answer for a while.

ANd the idea that BUF owner, who is absolutely loaded, not wanting to spend the money to even approach winning, makes me wonder (as Billy Beane said): "What are we doing here? If we're not playing and spending to the best of our ability to win, are we just wasting our time?"

Theyve now signed Power and Dahlin to huge long term deals, but you're not going to let them develop and play like the superstars theyre paid to be by getting them quality pairing partners?

Look at the expiring vets they have and what theyre paying them, and some of them not even playing: Johnson, Okposo, Girgensons, Jost, Stillman, Oloffson, Robinson, thats almost 18mil, a quarter of the WHOLE cap in middling vets, on a team spending well below the cap and tell me the GM and owner have truly stepped up to compete or at least make the playoffs?

Just wasting part of the careers of these young guys, while sitting on a gold mine of youth

You’re right about a lot of things. I am not sure why Adams refused to make that next step this year. The fans generally do have a better idea of what the team needs than those who are in charge of actually making those decisions. we were all very excited about Devon Levi, but it is exceptionally uncommon for a 20 year old to come out of college and take a starting NHL goaltending job right out of the gate. It was a bit naïve to assume he would be able to do that without putting a staunch defense in front of him. Adams thought Connor Clifton and Erik Johnson would be enough. He was also naïve to think that so many players having career years last season would simply repeat again, especially with Jack Quinn being injured for almost half the season before coming back (and then getting injured again after playing about 17 games). We didn’t sell high on Olofsson, of course they probably thought he would slot in for Jack Quinn, so they needed him. Thompson‘s injury bug wasn’t something we could anticipate, but Cozens struggling should have been foreseen. And Tuch probably overachieved last year, but should still be a solid 25 goal man if Thompson is getting him the puck. It all adds up to another year where we just didn’t take a step forward, and it’s hard to be optimistic.

But the cupboard is far from barren, even if we have all the same type of prospects. Luukkonen has been unreal since the end of December, the question is, can he maintain that over a 40 game window? This point his career high is still 32 games in one season, and he did not start this year well.
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