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Créé par: holtzer

Équipe: 2024-25 Devils du New Jersey

Date de création initiale: 13 févr. 2024

Publié: 13 févr. 2024

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

CGY deal logic:

Hanifin for Marino and a 3rd
- Replaces Hanifin with a similar player who is slightly younger and cost controlled. Provides RHD depth for when the inevitable Tanev deal trade happens. Retools to help CGY remain competitive instead of unknown futures.

Markstrom for Vanecek, Bahl, Gritsyuk and a conditional 1st
- Vanecek is for contract purposes. Bahl is a young 3rd pairing shutdown defenseman with great size; top 4 potential but unlikely. Gritsyuk is a top 6 potential fast skating winger currently killing it in the KHL. Draft pick originally stays as a conditional 2025 2nd, withthe condition being that it becomes a 2024 1st as long as the Devils don't make it to the '24 ECF. This is currently a condition in the Meier deal so the exact pick can't be establish until that is dealt with. Knowing this year, this is basically guaranteed to be a '24 1st.

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

RFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Daws, Nico	2	950 000 $
Hatakka, Santeri	2	950 000 $
Schmid, Akira	2	925 000 $
Mercer, Dawson	2	4 500 000 $

UFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Hanifin, Noah	6	6 500 000 $
Miller, Colin	2	1 750 000 $
Toffoli, Tyler	2	4 500 000 $
Henrique, Adam	1	2 000 000 $
Amadio, Michael	1	1 000 000 $

Transactions

NJD

Markström, Jacob

Détails additionnels:

+ extended Hanifin

CGY

Bahl, Kevin
Gritsyuk, Arseni [Liste de réserve]
Marino, John
Vanecek, Vitek
Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (NJD)
Choix de 3e ronde en 2025 (NJD)

Détails additionnels:

pick is conditional

NJD

Choix de 5e ronde en 2024 (ARI)

ARI

Bastian, Nathan

Frais appliqués

Ilya Kovalchuk: 250 000 $

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2024
2025
2026

FORMATION

VUE À LONG TERME

INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
21	87 700 000 $	87 151 397 $	1 538 897 $	5 950 000 $	548 603 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Toffoli, Tyler 4 500 000 $4 500 000 $ AD, AG UFA	Hughes, Jack 8 000 000 $8 000 000 $ C UFA - 6	Mercer, Dawson 4 500 000 $4 500 000 $ AD, C RFA
Bratt, Jesper 7 875 000 $7 875 000 $ AD, AG NMC UFA - 7	Hischier, Nico 7 250 000 $7 250 000 $ C M-NTC UFA - 3	Meier, Timo 8 800 000 $8 800 000 $ AG, AD NMC UFA - 7
Palat, Ondrej 6 000 000 $6 000 000 $ AG, AD NMC UFA - 3	Haula, Erik 3 150 000 $3 150 000 $ C, AG NTC UFA - 2	Holtz, Alexander 894 167 $894 167 $ (850 000 $$850K) AD, AG RFA - 1
Henrique, Adam 2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ AG, C UFA	Lazar, Curtis 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ AD, C UFA - 1	Amadio, Michael 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ AD, AG UFA

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Hughes, Luke 925 000 $925 000 $ (1 850 000 $$2M) DG/DD RFA - 1	Hamilton, Dougie 9 000 000 $9 000 000 $ DD NMC UFA - 4	Markström, Jacob 6 000 000 $6 000 000 $ G NMC UFA - 2
Hanifin, Noah 6 500 000 $6 500 000 $ DG UFA - 8	Nemec, Simon 918 333 $918 333 $ (3 250 000 $$3M) DD RFA - 2	Daws, Nico 950 000 $950 000 $ G RFA
Siegenthaler, Jonas 3 400 000 $3 400 000 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 4	Miller, Colin 1 750 000 $1 750 000 $ DD UFA

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Hatakka, Santeri 950 000 $950 000 $ DG RFA

13 févr. à 17 h 12

WpgJts

Rejoint: oct. 2020

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6.5 for Hanifin?

13 févr. à 17 h 13

holtzer

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Quoting: WpgJts

6.5 for Hanifin?

too much or too little?

13 févr. à 17 h 14

HShockey

Rejoint: juin 2023

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I think Hanifin gets a tad bit more (CGY offered him 7.5 which he nearly accepted according to reports). Also Markstrom deal might be a slight overpay (isn't Marino a legit T4 D-man)?

13 févr. à 17 h 16

Devsfan25

Rejoint: juill. 2017

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Marino isn't going anywhere lol

13 févr. à 17 h 17

WpgJts

Rejoint: oct. 2020

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Quoting: WpgJts

6.5 for Hanifin?

more, probably longer at 7.5 or 6 years times 8

csick a aimé ceci.

13 févr. à 17 h 19

holtzer

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Quoting: HShockey

I think Hanifin gets a tad bit more (CGY offered him 7.5 which he nearly accepted according to reports). Also Markstrom deal might be a slight overpay (isn't Marino a legit T4 D-man)?

Well I broke it down in my description at the top, but the logic is that the entire trade is broken up into two. Marino is sent to CGY to upgrade to an extended Hanifin. Marino himself, as with numerous players, are an absolute shell of themselves. Players like him and Siegthaler have been horrible in comparison to last year. Plus, having Dougie, the emergence of Nemec, and Miller being an excellent 3rd pairing guy (who we can probably resign for cheap), I think Marino is expendable.

HShockey a aimé ceci.

13 févr. à 17 h 20

holtzer

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Quoting: Devsfan25

Marino isn't going anywhere lol

he most likely isn't, but he is expendable IMO.

Tintin a aimé ceci.

13 févr. à 17 h 22

Ledge_And_Dairy

Rejoint: juin 2019

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Flames pass. Not interested in Marino and we don't have a RHD depth issue. Also not interest in another small winger prospect in Gritsyuk or an unguaranteed 1st

13 févr. à 17 h 25

MoSeider53

Future Norris guy

Rejoint: août 2022

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Quoting: holtzer

too much or too little?

It's too little, He's already been offered 8 x $7,500,000 to stay in Calgary. And now it looks like he might even be asking for closer to $8,000,000 per long term.

13 févr. à 17 h 26

#10

Gio

Rejoint: avr. 2023

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Hanifin will probably get upwards of 7M. Bringing him in also makes signing Nemec + Luke to long term deals extremely difficult. Marino is also probably the devils most solid defenseman when it comes to just pure defense at the moment, moving on from him would hurt their dcore more than most think.

13 févr. à 17 h 46

#11

Nhl_oilers

Rejoint: mars 2019

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I would say for Markstrom your 2024 1st, Vitek Vanecek, one of Chase Stillman, Graeme Clarke, or Arseni Gritsyuk would get it done possibly with a little retention. Markstrom is good, but goalies do not go for as much as some people think.

13 févr. à 17 h 48

#12

NJDevils1317

Rejoint: août 2021

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Hanifan will want too long of a term contract that the Devils shouldn't target as they'll go term on Luke and Nemec.

13 févr. à 17 h 49

#13

holtzer

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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy

Flames pass. Not interested in Marino and we don't have a RHD depth issue. Also not interest in another small winger prospect in Gritsyuk or an unguaranteed 1st

Your RHD depth is Tanev (who will be traded most likely), Andersson, and Pachal who you just got on waivers. You most certianly do need NHL caliber RHD.

13 févr. à 18 h 27

#14

Ledge_And_Dairy

Rejoint: juin 2019

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Quoting: holtzer

Your RHD depth is Tanev (who will be traded most likely), Andersson, and Pachal who you just got on waivers. You most certianly do need NHL caliber RHD.

Weegar is a RHD...

13 févr. à 18 h 31

#15

dgibb10

I Love J Boqvist

Rejoint: janv. 2023

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I would not throw in Marino

1st+Bahl for Hanifin unretained
2nd+Clarke+Vitek for markstrom unretained

13 févr. à 18 h 41

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NHLfan10506

Rejoint: mai 2019

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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy

Flames pass. Not interested in Marino and we don't have a RHD depth issue. Also not interest in another small winger prospect in Gritsyuk or an unguaranteed 1st

Did Sharangovich shrink?

Gritsyuk isn’t really small…

13 févr. à 18 h 44

#17

NHLfan10506

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Problem with trading Gritsyuk is that we will never get full value for him. Only Devils will have full information on his development, when he comes over. This came up during Meier talks as San Jose had sent their scout to watch him.

dgibb10 a aimé ceci.

13 févr. à 18 h 47

#18

Ledge_And_Dairy

Rejoint: juin 2019

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Quoting: NHLfan10506

Did Sharangovich shrink?

Gritsyuk isn’t really small…

He's below average in height. And Calgary has too many wingers already, especially below average hight ones projected for middle 6

14 févr. à 16 h 41

#19

holtzer

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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy

Weegar is a RHD...

who is playing the left side per DailyFaceoff.

14 févr. à 16 h 42

#20

holtzer

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Quoting: NHLfan10506

Did Sharangovich shrink?

Gritsyuk isn’t really small…

lol Grit is 5'11 192lb. thats solid for an NHLer especially with his speed.

14 févr. à 16 h 46

#21

NHLfan10506

Rejoint: mai 2019

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Quoting: holtzer

lol Grit is 5'11 192lb. thats solid for an NHLer especially with his speed.

Yeah, not small. And playing along boards is a strength…is Hischier-esque in pulling pucks off the wall.

dgibb10 a aimé ceci.

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