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Équipe: 2023-24 Sénateurs d'Ottawa
Date de création initiale: 3 févr. 2024
Publié: 3 févr. 2024
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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There are zero reasons for Columbus to trade him.
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Quoting: edeangel84
There are zero reasons for Columbus to trade him.


I mean if those are picks like 6 and 25 it could make sense. Not saying they should or would but this is a very enticing offer
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Quoting: Kyle_Okposo_Lover
I mean if those are picks like 6 and 25 it could make sense. Not saying they should or would but this is a very enticing offer


So then they have to set themselves back to draft another RHDthey only hope is as good…
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Quoting: Kyle_Okposo_Lover
I mean if those are picks like 6 and 25 it could make sense. Not saying they should or would but this is a very enticing offer


Yeah likely like 6, 25 and a very good goalie prospect
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Quoting: Kyle_Okposo_Lover
I mean if those are picks like 6 and 25 it could make sense. Not saying they should or would but this is a very enticing offer


Value-wise it's a great offer, but it's sort of robbing Peter to pay Paul. Jiricek is exactly the type of prospect you hope to have available, he's still a few years away from making an impact at the NHL level, so why move him only hoping to draft someone else like him with one of those picks? You know what I mean?
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So then they have to set themselves back to draft another RHDthey only hope is as good…


If he's unhappy and wants to leave, which he's probably not quite there yet but might be if things keep going south, theres probably not going to be a better alternative out there than something like this
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Not a bad deal, but I see no point for Columbus to do this. Jiricek is a '22 draftee, and as right as he may be, there is no reason to sell him in his D+2 after such a good D+1. All this would do is just cycle in another RD prospect which is just a high risk low-reward plan.
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One of the first more realistic Jiricek trades I've seen but I can't see Tarasenko fetching a first. After Monahan I guess you never know though
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Not happening
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Quoting: Kyle_Okposo_Lover
I mean if those are picks like 6 and 25 it could make sense. Not saying they should or would but this is a very enticing offer


More like 3 and 25. There's one, maybe two, Jiricek-level-potential RD prospects this year (Levshunov probably, maybe Parekh, maybe Silayev too but he's on the left). None of them are NHL-ready now, and a higher risk than the known quantity. Unless it's a sure thing we get Levshunov and another piece to make up for trading an NHL-level guy who fills a huge need and has a high ceiling...it just doesn't make sense.
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Quoting: SlickWilly
If he's unhappy and wants to leave, which he's probably not quite there yet but might be if things keep going south, theres probably not going to be a better alternative out there than something like this


A kid complaining about things not being good in his rookie season is no reason to trade him.
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Quoting: Leafsleaks123
One of the first more realistic Jiricek trades I've seen but I can't see Tarasenko fetching a first. After Monahan I guess you never know though


He’s on a 60pt pace, +11, has a cup and is good at secondary scoring. A lot of teams are missing that
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Not happening


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A kid complaining about things not being good in his rookie season is no reason to trade him.


You're telling me youd rather have a player who is unhappy, probably not going to try his best, potentially soil his development, and risk the chance of getting nothing out of the asset, than the 6th and 25th overall pick in a draft in which you're still very likely to get an elite defenseman?
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He’s on a 60pt pace, +11, has a cup and is good at secondary scoring. A lot of teams are missing that


You're gonna keep this up I see. Tarasenko is not worth a 1st anymore. A 60 point pace is nothing to scoff at, but he's not worth a 1st. A 2nd + good prospect would be a fair return.
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You're telling me youd rather have a player who is unhappy, probably not going to try his best, potentially soil his development, and risk the chance of getting nothing out of the asset, than the 6th and 25th overall pick in a draft in which you're still very likely to get an elite defenseman?


There are lots of players who are unhappy at certain points, but they push through it and wind up being fine.
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Quoting: csick
He’s on a 60pt pace, +11, has a cup and is good at secondary scoring. A lot of teams are missing that


He has value for sure but the Blues had to throw in a solid 4/5 defensemen in Mikkola just to get a late first out of New York and his mediocre production down the stretch with the Ranger likely dampens his value a little. Again you never know because of this market but I wouldn't bank on getting a first back
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Quoting: SlickWilly
You're telling me youd rather have a player who is unhappy, probably not going to try his best, potentially soil his development, and risk the chance of getting nothing out of the asset, than the 6th and 25th overall pick in a draft in which you're still very likely to get an elite defenseman?


I mean I don't wanna be the guy who thinks players should get over themselves, but it is his D+2 season.
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You're gonna keep this up I see. Tarasenko is not worth a 1st anymore. A 60 point pace is nothing to scoff at, but he's not worth a 1st. A 2nd + good prospect would be a fair return.


If it’s like Beau Akey and a 2nd then sure
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Quoting: Leafsleaks123
He has value for sure but the Blues had to throw in a solid 4/5 defensemen in Mikkola just to get a late first out of New York and his mediocre production down the stretch with the Ranger likely dampens his value a little. Again you never know because of this market but I wouldn't bank on getting a first back


Agreed here. The market will dictate a big portion of this, but in a normal market with many options he's not worth a 1st. Tarasenk is probably the best winger available, but there's quite a few bargain players available this year. Not necessarily ones on the same exact scoring pace as Tarasenko, but guys with lower cap hits and will cost less in trade which should drive price down.
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1. hes not worth a top 10 pick
2. hes not worth 2 first round picks
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If it’s like Beau Akey and a 2nd then sure


I don't think that's out of the question at all and I concede a 1st is always possible, but I just believe it's very unlikely with all the inexpensive wingers that are available.
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I don't think that's out of the question at all and I concede a 1st is always possible, but I just believe it's very unlikely with all the inexpensive wingers that are available.


Yeah but it depends who is available . I’m sure Anaheim will try and sell high on Vatrano for example but they might want Coleman from NJ value which is a solid prospect on top of a 1st
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Yeah but it depends who is available . I’m sure Anaheim will try and sell high on Vatrano for example but they might want Coleman from NJ value which is a solid prospect on top of a 1st


That's a horse of a different color. We can't compare rentals to players with term. But you think of guys like DuClair, Kubalik, Hoffman, Barabanov, Zucker, Okposo and Mantha, teams have lots of options. Those guys aren't necessarily producing like Tarasenko, but some of them are having very solid seasons and probably can be had for 3rd rounders. For some teams, they could probably grab two of those guys while giving up less futures than for Tarasenko.
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Quoting: edeangel84
So then they have to set themselves back to draft another RHDthey only hope is as good…


Quoting: csick
Yeah but it depends who is available . I’m sure Anaheim will try and sell high on Vatrano for example but they might want Coleman from NJ value which is a solid prospect on top of a 1st


Quoting: Mr_Gardoki
I don't think that's out of the question at all and I concede a 1st is always possible, but I just believe it's very unlikely with all the inexpensive wingers that are available.


Id 1000% never do this as CBJ I was just pointing out how it could make sense. Shouldve specified if Jiricek was very unhappy

Im still taking Jiricek over Levshunov even I love Jiricek
 
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