Put together a few trade comps for Sean Monahan. These are not offers nor recommendations...just some similar trades should the market be called for him.
Look at it this way...if you were a GM Kent, these probably represent the *RANGE* of offers you could be seeing (there is a wide range by intention).
If you would like to see previous comps...go to full library here:
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Sean Monahan
Date: Feb 1, 2024
Age: 29.3
Contract: $1.9m x 1 (UFA)
Return: ???
Danius Zubrus
Date: Feb 27, 2007
Age: 28.7
Contract: $3.4m x 1 (UFA)
Return: Jiri Novotny, 2007 1st (with Timo Helbling)
David Legwand
Date: Mar 5, 2014
Age: 33.5
Contract: $4.5m x 1 (UFA)
Return: Patrick Eaves, Calle Jarnkrok, 2014 2nd
Antoine Vermette
Date: Feb 28, 2015
Age: 32.6
Contract: $3.7m x 1 (UFA)
Return: Klas Dahlbeck, 2015 1st
Paul Stastny
Date: Feb 26, 2018
Age: 32.2
Contract: $7.0m x 1 (UFA) (*retained to $3.5m)
Return: Eric Foley (rights), 2018 1st, 2020 4th (not transferred)
You put alot of work into this, however I hope you get all you want for him.. Monahan isn't a fit for Colorado, if the avs didn't get ryjo this offseason then maybe they pay for monahan but having seen how bad the fit is with johansen they stay away from Monahan at all costs
Just went back and looked at all the most recent tdl trades, and any comparable for monahan, a 3c was like 2nds and b prospects, don't see any 1sts being moved for his type of player
Love the effort and the detail here. Truly spectacular.
Just curious, do these comps consider injury history, contract expectations, cap implications (flat cap v. pre-salary cap) and all that? Or just position and points type thing?
That's all well and good that these are comps, If that is the similar trade that Hughes were to reference, then it would likely be rejected. It's not a criticism of your hard work on this
Just went back and looked at all the most recent tdl trades, and any comparable for monahan, a 3c was like 2nds and b prospects, don't see any 1sts being moved for his type of player
If I had to bet, I'd say that is right.
I'd guess something around 2nd + 3rd type of value.
The comps are intended to mock the entire range of possible offers.
(not to find the one, singular, correct offer)
Just went back and looked at all the most recent tdl trades, and any comparable for monahan, a 3c was like 2nds and b prospects, don't see any 1sts being moved for his type of player
Barbashev from last year. The prospect was a late 1st from the year before. He is my #1 comp for Monahan.
Something to keep in kind that isn't shown in these trade comps is how many playoff teams had cap space and what % of their cap they had to deal with per year. A major driving force for Monahan's value is his potential cap hit being basically AHL replacement level. So many teams have so little cap space to move this year as opposed to some of the comps years.
This may be one of the toughest years for playoff teams to go get players at the TDL. Its not so bad if you have a cap dump you can send the other way but many teams have done tidy business and have neither cap space to get a 3-4-5M players nor a cap dump they could send back of equal value to offset the player coming in.
So Monahan at 950K (50% retained) is basically the only option some of these teams have if that's the type of player they want. if this TDL was transposed over another years TDL, the value probably would drop. The main driving factor for Monahan's value is probably this particular seasons circumstances. Not so much that he soooooo good.
Something to keep in kind that isn't shown in these trade comps is how many playoff teams had cap space and what % of their cap they had to deal with per year. A major driving force for Monahan's value is his potential cap hit being basically AHL replacement level. So many teams have so little cap space to move this year as opposed to some of the comps years.
This may be one of the toughest years for playoff teams to go get players at the TDL. Its not so bad if you have a cap dump you can send the other way but many teams have done tidy business and have neither cap space to get a 3-4-5M players nor a cap dump they could send back of equal value to offset the player coming in.
So Monahan at 950K (50% retained) is basically the only option some of these teams have if that's the type of player they want. if this TDL was transposed over another years TDL, the value probably would drop. The main driving factor for Monahan's value is probably this particular seasons circumstances. Not so much that he soooooo good.
It is one of the reasons I included the ROR deal because it came at a premium because the salary was 25% of original. Jarnkrok also included for that reason too ($2m retained down to $1m). I guess I leave it up to readers to determine what fits and what doesn’t.
The environmental landscape (league wide cap space, availability of other centers, etc) is really hard to factor into these.
Separately, I had thought about doing one of these using just comps from a single year. For instance, my favorite year was probably 2007 (which was nuts). I’d like to make a list of all the guys that were traded that year…and the most similar player today. (Who are the modern day versions of Peter Forsberg, Chris Pronger, Keith Tkachuk, Bill Guerin, Yanic Perreault, etc)…and what it would look like today if we had that many stars moving around.
Something to keep in kind that isn't shown in these trade comps is how many playoff teams had cap space and what % of their cap they had to deal with per year. A major driving force for Monahan's value is his potential cap hit being basically AHL replacement level. So many teams have so little cap space to move this year as opposed to some of the comps years.
This may be one of the toughest years for playoff teams to go get players at the TDL. Its not so bad if you have a cap dump you can send the other way but many teams have done tidy business and have neither cap space to get a 3-4-5M players nor a cap dump they could send back of equal value to offset the player coming in.
So Monahan at 950K (50% retained) is basically the only option some of these teams have if that's the type of player they want. if this TDL was transposed over another years TDL, the value probably would drop. The main driving factor for Monahan's value is probably this particular seasons circumstances. Not so much that he soooooo good.
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IMO Pageau and Copp are the best comparables for a 3C with a low caphit. O'reilly is just a superior level of player.
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