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Créé par: pmorin21
Équipe: 2023-24 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 23 janv. 2024
Publié: 23 janv. 2024
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
1.
TOR
  1. Barron, Justin
  2. Beck, Owen
  3. Kovacevic, Johnathan
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (CGY)
  5. Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (PIT)
2.
MTL
  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2025 (EDM)
EDM
  1. Armia, Joel (1 250 000 $ retained)
3.
MTL
  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2026 (CHI)
4.
MTL
  1. Pelletier, Jakob
Détails additionnels:
Minor trade
CGY
  1. Primeau, Cayden
Détails additionnels:
Minor trade
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Enfoui
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2024
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2025
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2026
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2083 500 000 $72 708 749 $1 170 000 $3 992 500 $10 791 251 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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7 850 000 $7 850 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 8
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7 875 000 $7 875 000 $
C
UFA - 7
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950 000 $950 000 $ (Bonis de performance3 500 000 $$4M)
AD, AG
RFA - 2
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2 900 000 $2 900 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 4
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3 362 500 $3 362 500 $
C, AD
RFA - 3
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1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
835 000 $835 000 $ (Bonis de performance57 500 $$58K)
AG, AD
RFA - 3
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
1 985 000 $1 985 000 $ (Bonis de performance15 000 $$15K)
C, AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
812 500 $812 500 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
1 700 000 $1 700 000 $
C
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 4
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
7 500 000 $7 500 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
4 875 000 $4 875 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
828 333 $828 333 $
DG/DD
RFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
1 925 000 $1 925 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance420 000 $$420K)
DG/DD
RFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
DG/DD
RFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 3

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23 janv. à 9 h 52
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Oilers don’t need Armia, they got Perry for free. They’re currently dollar in dollar out and would be better off upgrading elsewhere.
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23 janv. à 9 h 53
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That's really really bad for the Flames.

They have arguably the best goalie prospect in the league and Pelletier is one of their top.prospects. Primeau does little to nothing for the flames.
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23 janv. à 9 h 53
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Chicago isn't giving up picks for Dvorak
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23 janv. à 9 h 57
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Thats an awful deal we have no need for Primeau with Wolf in the pipeline and Pelletier has good potential to be a top 6 winger
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23 janv. à 10 h 18
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I would not want Rielly in Montreal. He is the same age as Matheson, they have similar offensive abilities and Rielly adds $2.5M to the cap more than Matheson does.

The package of players to Toronto is too much to trade for Rielly, especially when he is not needed and probably does not fit the age range for the rebuilding process.
23 janv. à 10 h 20
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Reilly ain’t waiving the value is fair but he isn’t waiving
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23 janv. à 10 h 34
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I will give you a list of MTL players that are cap dumps and will cost something to move:
Dvorak
Anderson
Gallagher
Armia

Asking for a return on these players is gonna be a very hard ask, and any GM that actually pays for them is likely a fool.
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23 janv. à 12 h 10
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Quoting: Garak
I will give you a list of MTL players that are cap dumps and will cost something to move:
Dvorak
Anderson
Gallagher
Armia

Asking for a return on these players is gonna be a very hard ask, and any GM that actually pays for them is likely a fool.


First off, Armia wont be retained, they have 1 retention spot left, the opportunity cost alone is worth more than a 4th, the tiniest amount of research would have shown you as well as the cap hit of the retention is more than the buy out at 800k and then 1.2M AAV the next two years. He will be bought out at worse.

Secondly. calling Anderson a cap dump is non sensical irrational hate without any context. Why even bring him up? He's not in this ACGM..The Hawks have as many players as MTL that you could consider a cap dump with recent signings including Jason Dickinson. I wonder why he's not a cap dump in your eyes, maybe because the cost is relative to the team's flexibility but that would mean you need to take off your homer blinders.

Thirdly, every single person knows Gallagher has a bad contract, a truly awful one same as Brent Seabrook back in the day. Neither Seabrook or Gallagher are relative to this ACGM. Deal with it!

Lastly, Dvorak isnt a cap dump as a faceoff specialist with a year of term left at 4.45M, little worth, maybe but by all means continue whining about Mrazek needing a 3rd round pick instead of a 4th as if that will change the fortunes of a toxic mess of an organization.
23 janv. à 12 h 31
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Calgary isn't trading Pelletier for another Goaltender prospect. Hard pass
23 janv. à 13 h 31
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General rule of thumb to go by; if a player is overpaid, underperforming and 90% of his current team’s fan base has included him in trade proposals, don’t bother asking for anything in return… as a matter of fact you should expect to pay to get rid of the contract.

Hawks decline.
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23 janv. à 14 h 35
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Quoting: Andy_Dick
First off, Armia wont be retained, they have 1 retention spot left, the opportunity cost alone is worth more than a 4th, the tiniest amount of research would have shown you as well as the cap hit of the retention is more than the buy out at 800k and then 1.2M AAV the next two years. He will be bought out at worse.

Secondly. calling Anderson a cap dump is non sensical irrational hate without any context. Why even bring him up? He's not in this ACGM..The Hawks have as many players as MTL that you could consider a cap dump with recent signings including Jason Dickinson. I wonder why he's not a cap dump in your eyes, maybe because the cost is relative to the team's flexibility but that would mean you need to take off your homer blinders.

Thirdly, every single person knows Gallagher has a bad contract, a truly awful one same as Brent Seabrook back in the day. Neither Seabrook or Gallagher are relative to this ACGM. Deal with it!

Lastly, Dvorak isnt a cap dump as a faceoff specialist with a year of term left at 4.45M, little worth, maybe but by all means continue whining about Mrazek needing a 3rd round pick instead of a 4th as if that will change the fortunes of a toxic mess of an organization.


I wish I could have just stopped you before you wasted your time writing all of that. It has nothing to do with hate, I am completely indifferent to MTL. The fact that you think it is hate is kinda funny actually. It is completely related because of how often MTL fans make these head scratcher proposals involving Armia, Anderson, Dvorak, and Gallagher, that are equally as ridiculous. Like... Where are they getting their information from? All four of those players are absolutely cap dump candidates.

They are massively underperforming, heavily in decline, aging players, on VERY expensive contracts with term. Even if MTL wouldn't have to pay to move them, which I completely disagree with, they definitely aren't getting the kind of returns that so many Habs fans have proposed over the last year or so.

Who is going to take on those contracts without retention and/or some very nice pieces coming back? Only a fool would. Who would give up anything significant for any of them? No one. Who even has the cap space to take such a huge gamble? No one besides bottom feeder teams, like CHI, that are going to leverage the heck out of MTL in negotiations, if they are desperate enough to create the cap space. Just like MTL did to CGY in the Monahan dump.
 
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