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The moves no ones saw coming

Créé par: ToneCapone420
Équipe: 2023-24 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 17 janv. 2024
Publié: 19 janv. 2024
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
UFAANSCAP HIT
1800 000 $
Transactions
1.
TOR
  1. Guentzel, Jake (3 000 000 $ retained)
PIT
2.
CGY
  1. Brodie, TJ
  2. Hirvonen, Roni
  3. Kämpf, David
  4. Niemelä, Topi
  5. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (NYI)
  6. Choix de 1e ronde en 2026 (TOR)
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2024
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2025
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2026
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2283 500 000 $81 934 783 $0 $0 $1 565 217 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
11 640 250 $11 640 250 $
C
NMC
UFA - 1
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6 962 366 $6 962 366 $
AD
NMC
UFA - 1
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
C, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
10 903 000 $10 903 000 $
AD
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
925 000 $925 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
11 000 000 $11 000 000 $
C, AG
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
2 100 000 $2 100 000 $
AD, C, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
762 500 $762 500 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
800 000 $800 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 2
800 000 $800 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
7 500 000 $7 500 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo de Flames de Calgary
6 250 000 $6 250 000 $
DG/DD
NTC
UFA - 8
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
766 667 $766 667 $
G
RFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
775 000 $775 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
875 000 $875 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
800 000 $800 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
DD
RFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
3 550 000 $3 550 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
775 000 $775 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
1 350 000 $1 350 000 $
AD
UFA - 3
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
5 625 000 $5 625 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
4 687 500 $4 687 500 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
4 150 000 $4 150 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1

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19 janv. à 9 h 12
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I don’t see Penguin moving him but this would be nasty
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19 janv. à 9 h 18
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I'm honestly sick and tired of seeing Guentzel trades. The Pens are only a couple points out of a wild card spot with at least one game in hand over everyone above them in the East. They're still in the playoff race and Dubas hasn't talked to anyone about a Jake trade. As of right now, he's not available.
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19 janv. à 9 h 53
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Swap out Timmins with Liljegren, add a 2nd going to Pittsburgh, and Ruhwedel going to Toronto. But Guentzel isn’t available in real life.
19 janv. à 9 h 55
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Quoting: Haymaker26
I'm honestly sick and tired of seeing Guentzel trades. The Pens are only a couple points out of a wild card spot with at least one game in hand over everyone above them in the East. They're still in the playoff race and Dubas hasn't talked to anyone about a Jake trade. As of right now, he's not available.


While a agree with you that the Pens aren't likely sellers (at this time), isn't it a bit of stretch that you that Dubas hasn't talked to other GMs about a Jake trade? GMs talk all the time about players and their trade values in case they want to pull the trigger later.
19 janv. à 10 h 7
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No one saw them coming probably because they aren’t anywhere close to realistically happening
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19 janv. à 10 h 39
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I don’t see Penguin moving him but this would be nasty


Yeah, the Pens are trending to being the WC fight until the end, so it's unlikely (barring major long-term injuries) that Jake will become available, but I like this deal if he did get moved.
19 janv. à 10 h 43
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Quoting: palhal
While a agree with you that the Pens aren't likely sellers (at this time), isn't it a bit of stretch that you that Dubas hasn't talked to other GMs about a Jake trade? GMs talk all the time about players and their trade values in case they want to pull the trigger later.


Dubas literally just made the comments yesterday in an interview that he hasn't engaged in any conversations with other teams about Jake.
19 janv. à 10 h 58
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No
19 janv. à 12 h 22
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Dubas literally just made the comments yesterday in an interview that he hasn't engaged in any conversations with other teams about Jake.


Oh no.....NEVER believe what a player/coach/GM says in public. It's for public consumption and not necessarily factual at all.
Of course Dubas isn't going to say, "We've had trade talks regarding Jake" is he? GMs, coaches, players just don't throw their teams "under the bus."
How often does a GM talk at a press conference. "I like our group here, they won't be changes", then a week latter major trades. Or saying, "There isn't going to be a coaching change", Next week the coach is fired." Or an upcoming UFA says, "I want to stay here long term", but bolts at his first change as a UFA.
19 janv. à 12 h 52
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Oh no.....NEVER believe what a player/coach/GM says in public. It's for public consumption and not necessarily factual at all.
Of course Dubas isn't going to say, "We've had trade talks regarding Jake" is he? GMs, coaches, players just don't throw their teams "under the bus."
How often does a GM talk at a press conference. "I like our group here, they won't be changes", then a week latter major trades. Or saying, "There isn't going to be a coaching change", Next week the coach is fired." Or an upcoming UFA says, "I want to stay here long term", but bolts at his first change as a UFA.


They have been very open regarding the situation. You just don't want to believe it.
19 janv. à 14 h 10
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Weegar isn’t available and even if he was leafs aren’t gonna acquire him we don’t hunt big fish ever, and pass on Pittsburg we aren’t paying that much for a forward we do not need
19 janv. à 17 h 41
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Quoting: palhal
Oh no.....NEVER believe what a player/coach/GM says in public. It's for public consumption and not necessarily factual at all.
Of course Dubas isn't going to say, "We've had trade talks regarding Jake" is he? GMs, coaches, players just don't throw their teams "under the bus."
How often does a GM talk at a press conference. "I like our group here, they won't be changes", then a week latter major trades. Or saying, "There isn't going to be a coaching change", Next week the coach is fired." Or an upcoming UFA says, "I want to stay here long term", but bolts at his first change as a UFA.


If you've decided that Dubas is an untrustworthy liar, that's your prerogative. But Dubas is the best source we have on what Dubas is currently planning. If Guentzel ends up being traded, it is completely realistic that trade talks can begin between now and the trade deadline in about a month and a half. As of right now, I have no reason to think we're hearing offers for Jake.
19 janv. à 20 h 21
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Quoting: Haymaker26
If you've decided that Dubas is an untrustworthy liar, that's your prerogative. But Dubas is the best source we have on what Dubas is currently planning. If Guentzel ends up being traded, it is completely realistic that trade talks can begin between now and the trade deadline in about a month and a half. As of right now, I have no reason to think we're hearing offers for Jake.


I'm saying GMs have an obligation to their teams, not to the media or the fans. GMs don't show their cards in public. Has nothing to do with being a liar.
Gee, if Dubas was asked about the 23 Pens individually, if there had been trade talks, for each individual he would say "No". It just isn't Jake.
20 janv. à 12 h 36
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If this was a serious offer for Guentzel and Pens will be on the edge of play-off, I'd take it anyway.
 
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