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Forum: Armchair-GMven. à 20 h 7

Sujet: Why not eh

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LukaTAG</b></div><div>Watch out for that guy that comes in absolutely raving about Blueger</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Garak</b></div><div>CHI accepts. Huge overpay for Blueger, though. Most PIT ACGM's treat him as a cap dump. So PIT will probably give him to EDM for nothing or maybe even pay them to take him, if they actually want him.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Garak</b></div><div>CHI accepts. Huge overpay for Blueger, though. Most PIT ACGM's treat him as a cap dump. So PIT will probably give him to EDM for nothing or maybe even pay them to take him, if they actually want him.</div></div>

Blueger is the greatest player to ever play the game. He’s amazing on the pk and defensively. That makes him worth multiple firsts! Am I doing it right? Lol

Forum: Armchair-GMjeu. à 21 h 48

Sujet: Addressing Biggest Needs

Ducks probably say no.
Pens decline the Habs trade. Wouldn’t trade one of those players for Edmundson, much less both.
I think both accept the Chicago trade.

Forum: Armchair-GMjeu. à 15 h 34

Sujet: Fixing the 3rd line

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Burnout</b></div><div>The. Last. Thing. Montreal. Needs. Is. A. Bad. Right. Shot. Winger.

I do not care if you prefer to get out of contracts sooner. Getting centers is much harder than getting wingers. Even the overpaid ones.</div></div>

No it’s really not hard to get a cap dump of any kind, much less a center. They are all over the place. Actually Montreal has a couple on their roster alone lol

Forum: Armchair-GMjeu. à 3 h 7

Sujet: Please change this team

Pens decline. If this was last offseason then yeah, but MP is our top LD and has been great this year. And since it’s likely Dumo’s last year with the pens, we need Petty.

Forum: Armchair-GMmer. à 15 h 46

Sujet: Fixing the 3rd line

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Burnout</b></div><div>Montreal is rebuilding, there is no reason for Montreal to trade Dvorak for that kind of return. He occupies a spot on the roster to shelter other guys, he isn't blocking anyone on the roster and they don't need the cap space. If the choice is keeping Dvorak or trading him for a guy that would block guys on the roster, then the choice is very easy.

Your argument only makes sense if Montreal was incentivized to get rid of Dvorak's contract. They are not.</div></div>

No one MTL is getting back in that trade is blocking anyone anymore than Dvorak would be. But hey, y’all want to keep that bad contract, I’m all for it. I’ve said in the other posts regarding a similar trade, pens decline. Would rather just get out of the contracts sooner.

Forum: Armchair-GMmer. à 9 h 49

Sujet: Hextall gets off his butt

Kap for Beauvillier straight up. there is no reason for the pens to add a pick. They are basically the the same Beauvillier has a higher cap hit. I think a 1 for 1 change of scenery trade for both players would be fine.
And absolutely not to the Detroit trade. I like Rasmussen but if we gotta take in Nedjelkovic then they should be paying the 2, not us. He’s been awful. He makes DeSmith look good lol

Forum: Armchair-GMmer. à 9 h 46

Sujet: Im crazy

You sure are

Forum: Armchair-GMmar. à 22 h 14

Sujet: Pens Load Up

Pens absolutely decline that Habs trade.
Two 1sts, a 2nd, two 3rds, and a 4th equivalent for a cap dump 3C and an average 3LD is a massive overpayment. POJ is just better, especially for the pens than Edmundson. And I’d rather just get out of the contracts and keep the picks than take on Dvorak. Those assets can be used much better. Dvorak for 3 of Kapanen, Blueger, McGinn, and Heinen would be as much as I’d give for Dvorak. And that’s being generous due to the cap situation.

Forum: Armchair-GMmar. à 22 h 9

Sujet: Fixing the 3rd line

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Burnout</b></div><div>Montreal traded a 1st and 2nd for Dvorak. Since he's not actively hurting their tank, there's no reason to trade him for just a 3rd right now. Maybe in a season or two. If Blueger had any kind of value on the trade market, you probably wouldn't be offering him as a salary offset.</div></div>

He probably does have trade value, but like I said, contenders are in cap hell. So any trade is going to have to involve taking cap back. Again this favors the Habs by quite a bit, but that’s the only way the pens can do it. You’re not only getting a 3rd. You could flip both Heinen and Blueger (who are cheap enough) and probably get more mid round picks for them. So it’s more like two 3rds and a 4th minimum.
Just cause y’all paid what you paid for Dvorak doesn’t mean he’s still worth it. He’s a dump and MTL would be stupid not to get out of the contract if they can get something back and not have to pay.

Forum: Armchair-GMmar. à 22 h 6

Sujet: Fixing the 3rd line

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Burnout</b></div><div>A pending UFA that they don't need.

And the only thing they're getting back that has real value for them is a 3rd. Much rather keep Dvorak.</div></div>

And the pens are getting nothing of significance here. They are getting 2 cap dumps. Montreal isn’t going to get much, if anything for Dvorak unless he figures it out before his contract ends. Why take the risk if someone actually offers you something? If you want to trade Blueger elsewhere for more picks because you don’t need him then the that’s fine. But pretty much all of the contenders are in cap hell so any trade you make, you’ll likely have to take a “useless” contract back too.

Forum: Armchair-GMlun. à 18 h 58

Sujet: Fixing the 3rd line

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Burnout</b></div><div>Montreal passes, rather keep the center.</div></div>

You realize you’re getting a center back too? And y’all are selling y’all should jump on getting out of that Dvorak contract and get something back if you can.

Forum: Armchair-GMdim. à 21 h 58

Sujet: To prove you wrong

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Imagine874859</b></div><div>Zucker takes less and gets more term. Jarry wont get more than 6 mil. He has to prove himself in the playoffs first</div></div>

I would be willing to bet a team would give Jarry 6 million per year. Absolutely. Otherwise he won’t take a long term deal to bet on himself. That’s still not enough. Look at what players with similar stats got last offseason. Perron, Copp, Trocheck. All got long term deals and 4.75 million+. This is his last chance at a big contract. The only way he takes less to stay here is if he likes it and probably if he gets a contract to finish out his career with a NTC.

Forum: Armchair-GMdim. à 20 h 59

Sujet: PK Help

Pens absolutely accept this. They’d be crazy not to

Forum: Armchair-GM22 janv. à 17 h 51

Sujet: Horvat kuzmenko stay

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Imagine874859</b></div><div>4 mil for Zucker. 14 mil left. 5 for Jarry. 9 mil left. Poehling and Smith both get under a mil. Around 7.5 million dollars to sign a replacement for Blueger and any extra depth</div></div>

If it was that easy, those guys would be re-signed by now lol. Jarry is probably getting 6 bare minimum. Zucker is having a great year. Teams will probably go 5-5.5 million range for Zucker based off of what similar players got last year. Poehling and Smith have both been solid. I wouldn’t be surprised if they get 1-1.5 million each if they keep up their play.

Forum: Armchair-GM22 janv. à 17 h 48

Sujet: To prove you wrong

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Imagine874859</b></div><div>Hockeyfan1234</div></div>

This doesn’t prove me wrong. It proves me right lol. You are assuming Zucker is willing to take a pay decrease, Jarry is willing to take a discount cause I’m sure if all he’s asking for is 5 million per year that he’d have signed by now. You’re literally giving everyone the bare minimum or less and are barely cap compliant.

Forum: Armchair-GM22 janv. à 13 h 30

Sujet: Horvat kuzmenko stay

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Imagine874859</b></div><div>We have 25 mil in space next year. We can afford this after this year</div></div>

No they don’t. They have 20 million and after this trade it decreases to 18 million next year. Now add the fact that the pens need to re-sign Jarry, Smith, Poehling, Zuckers replacement, Blueger or his replacement. That space quickly evaporates.

Forum: Armchair-GM22 janv. à 0 h 24

Sujet: Allvin Comes Alive at the Deadline

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Imagine874859</b></div><div>Lmao yes. Can I not say yes to one and no to the other? Pens dont want this negativity their locker room</div></div>

Sure but why say yes to the worse deal. Garland has been just as inconsistent as Kapanen. JT Miller is around a ppg player.

Forum: Armchair-GM22 janv. à 0 h 23

Sujet: Horvat kuzmenko stay

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Imagine874859</b></div><div>This saves us space. Kapanen is inconsistent and Garland is tougher. Schenn has also been good this year.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Imagine874859</b></div><div>This saves us space. Kapanen is inconsistent and Garland is tougher. Schenn has also been good this year.</div></div>

Saves us cap space this year but not next year or the years after that when it’s more important.

Forum: Armchair-GM21 janv. à 17 h 22

Sujet: Columbus Blue Jackets

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AG_sweden</b></div><div>They already have. They just need some meathead to fill in the 3rd d unit if needed... definitely isn't dumb enough to pay that for 12-14 min a night defense men.</div></div>

He plays 22+ minutes per night. With Gavrikov NY would roll all three pairs and keep everyone relatively fresh.

Forum: Armchair-GM21 janv. à 17 h 21

Sujet: Allvin Comes Alive at the Deadline

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Imagine874859</b></div><div>Pens decline</div></div>

You accept the garland deal in the other thread but this deal is a no go? Make it make sense lol

Forum: Armchair-GM21 janv. à 17 h 20

Sujet: Horvat kuzmenko stay

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Imagine874859</b></div><div>Pens accept</div></div>

Hextall should immediately be shown the door then. The last thing the pens need is an even longer big contract for a guy that has had his fair share of trouble scoring.

Forum: Armchair-GM21 janv. à 17 h 17

Sujet: Columbus Blue Jackets

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AG_sweden</b></div><div>you mean any team BUT NYR, right? ;)</div></div>

Well if Drury is that dumb, then good for him I guess. But a 1st and 3rd for a top 4 d 50% retained making his cap hit only 1.4 million is pretty solid. The rangers would have a stacked back end

Forum: Armchair-GM21 janv. à 0 h 44

Sujet: Ottawa Senators

Pens decline. POJ is the better player and the cheaper player. No way they do that 1 for 1 and honestly don’t they they are interested in trading POJ or Smith for that matter.

Forum: Armchair-GM21 janv. à 0 h 42

Sujet: I know

We don’t really need Schenn but given the pens injury history this year alone and cap situation, they probably should do that.

Forum: Armchair-GM21 janv. à 0 h 41

Sujet: Yuhh

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Campabee</b></div><div>Like I said this year is the outlier not the norm and until he has 2 or more season at over 50 points you can't say that this is his new norm or that he is on the upswing. It is possible he is but it is also possible that he is just having a career year.</div></div>

Great now use that same logic for Monahan who has now had multiple straight season of garbage stats. And has progressively gotten worse over the last four years. Now add the fact he makes over 6 million in cap. He’s a massive cap dump. Hence why Calgary had to pay so much to offload him. He’s been injured most of the year and granted his previous injury history too, he hasn’t suddenly gained a lot of value, if any at all.

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