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Button says they need another C but also a big winger

Créé par: Hawsie91
Équipe: 2023-24 Jets de Winnipeg
Date de création initiale: 12 janv. 2024
Publié: 12 janv. 2024
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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  1. Monahan, Sean (992 500 $ retained)
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  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (WPG)
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2283 500 000 $81 950 358 $0 $865 000 $1 549 642 $
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6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
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3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
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992 500 $992 500 $ (Bonis de performance15 000 $$15K)
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775 000 $775 000 $
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6 250 000 $6 250 000 $
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5 875 000 $5 875 000 $
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UFA - 2
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6 166 667 $6 166 667 $
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NMC
UFA - 1
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3 900 000 $3 900 000 $
DG
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
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UFA - 1
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1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
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1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
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5 950 000 $5 950 000 $
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775 000 $775 000 $
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12 janv. à 0 h 31
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Seems like a great fit. Doesn't appear that the retention is needed.

1st is the tops it will take to get Monahan I think, unless there is a bidding war. I would try to squeeze a late pick back if I were Winnipeg as well but this may be the cost.
12 janv. à 1 h 34
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Both sides accept.
Monahan would be a great addition to the Winnipeg Jets.
Would anyone agree?
12 janv. à 3 h 53
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I seem to be in the minority here but I just don't see Monahan having first round value.
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12 janv. à 9 h 15
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Quoting: Ktownchef
I seem to be in the minority here but I just don't see Monahan having first round value.


Compare his built, stats, and leadership to that of Elias Lindholm. Monahan comes at half the price tag... As a rental, I'd say that Monahan is potentially worth more than Lindholm given the year they're having and the cap hit. As a sign and trade, that'd be a different story maybe.

Now nobody would argue that Lindholm is not worth at least a first as a rental.
12 janv. à 9 h 24
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Quoting: CD25
Compare his built, stats, and leadership to that of Elias Lindholm. Monahan comes at half the price tag... As a rental, I'd say that Monahan is potentially worth more than Lindholm given the year they're having and the cap hit. As a sign and trade, that'd be a different story maybe.

Now nobody would argue that Lindholm is not worth at least a first as a rental.


well yes, but your premise that monahan is better than lindholm is ridiculous.
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12 janv. à 9 h 24
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With how the Jets are playing, they have no incentive to consider overpaying for bad players to be their healthy scratch.

Monahan flat out isn't anywhere close to replacing anyone in Winnipeg's top 9 and would be in for the fight of his life to replace someone on the 4th line. He just isn't needed and flat out worthless to Winnipeg.
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12 janv. à 9 h 25
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12 janv. à 9 h 27
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12 janv. à 9 h 41
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well yes, but your premise that monahan is better than lindholm is ridiculous.


When did I say he was better? I explicitly said: 'compare the built, stats [this year], and leadership", and "as a sign and trade, that'd be a different story maybe". This acknowledge that he's somewhat inferior. But GM have to optimize under constraints, and the cap hit of Monahan makes him a very attractive rental. And people tend to forget that a late first is not worth that much more than an early second round pick...
12 janv. à 9 h 43
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Quoting: CD25
Compare his built, stats, and leadership to that of Elias Lindholm. Monahan comes at half the price tag... As a rental, I'd say that Monahan is potentially worth more than Lindholm given the year they're having and the cap hit. As a sign and trade, that'd be a different story maybe.

Now nobody would argue that Lindholm is not worth at least a first as a rental.


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Quoting: Ktownchef
I seem to be in the minority here but I just don't see Monahan having first round value.


You are or shouldn't be in the minority...he's not worth a first
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12 janv. à 10 h 46
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Quoting: CD25
When did I say he was better? I explicitly said: 'compare the built, stats [this year], and leadership", and "as a sign and trade, that'd be a different story maybe". This acknowledge that he's somewhat inferior. But GM have to optimize under constraints, and the cap hit of Monahan makes him a very attractive rental. And people tend to forget that a late first is not worth that much more than an early second round pick...


i just dont think they are as close as you make it out to be.
14 janv. à 16 h 50
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Quoting: Ktownchef
I seem to be in the minority here but I just don't see Monahan having first round value.

We could compare Monahan's trade value to one's of Copp and Stastny. Different skillset I agree but I feel like a lot of fans forget one thing about those comparison, salary. Why would Monahan fetch anything close to what the others brought? Cause he's paid about 29% of what Stastny was at the time of trade and 60% of Copp. He obviously isn't a comparable when it comes to health but who cares if you're taking him for -at most- 30 games? Health clauses have already been seen (Upgrades to X is player Y plays 50% of playoff games) so I don't really see where a GM would be unwilling to part ways with a good prospect and a highly conditioned pick.
Pretty sure he fetches at least a conditional 1st based upon other previous deals.
 
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