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Forum: Trade Machine Proposalsjeu. à 15 h 50

Sujet: Could be good for mtl

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Element23VM</b></div><div>Wonder if the Kings would 1 4 1 Dubois for Dach at this point...

If he has a good playoffs, no... but I don't think they're beating Edmonton... and they could use that cap space to sign a legit goalie</div></div>

LA might do that 1:1, but I hope MTL don't!

Forum: Trade Machine Proposalsjeu. à 9 h 57

Sujet: Could be good for mtl

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>tryger</b></div><div>Oh look a bad PLd trade from a Habs fan. Haven’t seen one of these in three days.</div></div>

I agree with you that there are way too many PLD trades flying around... for a player that doesn't even make consensus here ;) Adding Byfield to the trade is plain laughable.

Just for the sake of discussion, take Byfield out of this trade. That is:

Dvorak, Barron, MTL 2025 1st for PLD, LA 2025 3rd.

Then, frankly, as a habs fan, I am not 100% sure this would be good for us. Don't get me wrong, unless LA is in a bind with the cap, I don't think they'd do that. But PLD doesn't exactly shine in the playoffs, which is supposedly where the redemption was supposed to come. He might very well bounce back next year, by 8.5M for another 7 years with NMC is a very, very risky contract for a player who never really showed consistency, and asked to be traded twice already at 25...

I'm not saying I'd say no, but it's far from being the slam dunk that non-MTL fans seem to think it is.

Forum: Trade Machine Proposalsjeu. à 9 h 48

Sujet: Nssjdjdj

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Dom1422</b></div><div>He’s worth at least as much as Newhook and Newhook went for a 1st and a 2nd.

Check Farabee’s even strength numbers. Only like 6 points on the power play. Played only like 30 seconds on the 2nd unit. He has close to the same numbers as Suzuki. He could explode with us in an offensive system vs Torts defensive heavy system.</div></div>

I really like this trade; better thought than most around here ;) The Newhook comparable is a good one. I am just not sure why the Flyers would move one from a 24 yo with this kind of upside; the case was much clearer for the Avs.

Forum: Trade Machine Proposalsmer. à 9 h 20

Sujet: Realistic Return for McDavid

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>dgibb10</b></div><div>1st+Xhekaj for Ryan Mcleod

So suzuki+Matheson+Mesar for Mcdavid? Lmao</div></div>

Even taking McLeod out of the trade, I hope Holland would never trade McDavid for this package. I think someone wanted to troll Oiliers' fans.

Forum: Trade Machine Proposals18 avr. à 10 h 17

Sujet: Habs Flyers

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Forum: Trade Machine Proposals18 avr. à 9 h 55

Sujet: Habs Flyers

The value is not bad. But we have several players of the "small and talented" variety. Not sure this is what we need to add.

Forum: Trade Machine Proposals18 avr. à 9 h 51

Sujet: big move at the draft

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ggha777</b></div><div>Good because lots of us habs fans don’t even want him. It’s mainly just the French ones who do</div></div>

And even then... It's a small fraction of fans that didn't bother following the saga. He leveraged the interest of Montreal and got the deal he wanted in LA. They committed to it. No hard feelings, it's business. But the ship has sailed, let's move on... and boo him when he hits the Bell Center's ice ;)

Forum: Trade Machine Proposals15 avr. à 10 h 9

Sujet: French star goes home

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GuyGuyGuy</b></div><div>Drouin has more points this season. He is a biggest star</div></div>

Oh! That's the way it works. Gee, let's fire all pro scouts and look only at last season's point total to evaluate players...

By that metric, you'd gladly accept a Caufield 1:1 trade for Ryan O'Reilly? Or Travis Konecny? I would not.

Forum: Trade Machine Proposals14 avr. à 13 h 5

Sujet: French star goes home

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GuyGuyGuy</b></div><div>I would take McDavid but not Matthews. McDavid is worth 23m. Matthews maybe not. More like 17-18m

Jonathan Drouin is a biggest Quebec star than Huberdeau.</div></div>

Come on. Drouin over Huberdeau? I mean, Drouin just cannot play under pressure. I am glad he turned things around and wish him the best of luck going forward, but no GM and it's right mind would equate him and Huberdeau. The latter had a bad start... on a team that wasn't built the right way. And yes, he is overpaid. Huberdeau is just better, there is no denying it.

That said, I am not sure I would trade for him given where we are with the rebuild.

Forum: Trade Machine Proposals14 avr. à 11 h 57

Sujet: Clean Carey contract

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Novistic</b></div><div>coyotes aren't going to take on any more contracts. they still have to hold onto weber's contract for a while</div></div>

Anyways, the move to Utah is a game changer. You don't pay 1.3B for a team and then load it with dead contracts. Utah will be a force to recon with at the draft and on July 1 with their draft capital and cap room.

Forum: Trade Machine Proposals12 avr. à 8 h 59

Sujet: Clean Carey contract

I think we hold on to Carey's contract for the year: (1) we don't need the money now, (2) the value will be dramatically better on July 2nd 2025, when Carey virtually isn't owed anything anymore.

Forum: Trade Machine Proposals12 avr. à 8 h 55

Sujet: Mtl cbj

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Dutchies</b></div><div>If Im CLB, I don't do it. Johnson is gonna be a top 6 difference maker, and Boqvist (if he can get over his injury issues) can be a great top 4 D man. CLB already has a top 5 pick. They need to be moving forward, not backward.</div></div>

I don't care much for Boqvist. That said, given that the Habs compete window is not even open, if Cayden Lindstrom is still on the board, I'd draft him before making a 1:1 trade for KJ. Maybe CBJ's window is closer than ours.

Forum: Trade Machine Proposals11 avr. à 19 h 53

Sujet: Mtl cbj

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BoomerTheHero</b></div><div>The only way Jackets do this is if you take away Boqvist and Brindley, then KJ would have to make a trade request and/or refuse to sign an extension.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BoomerTheHero</b></div><div>The only way Jackets do this is if you take away Boqvist and Brindley, then KJ would have to make a trade request and/or refuse to sign an extension.</div></div>

I don’t care much for Boqvist. And I am always looking at the KJ trades assuming that there’s some bad blood with management

Forum: Trade Machine Proposals11 avr. à 10 h 0

Sujet: Fellow Habs fans this is likely not enough to shed contracts you add to trades

I don't even understand why we are discussing cap dumps and Montreal in the same sentence. We'll have *too much** cap room this year. Let's do ourselves a favour and dump our contracts in our own backyard.

Forum: Trade Machine Proposals11 avr. à 9 h 56

Sujet: Mtl cbj

If a team or two behind us won the lottery, this could be tempting. Otherwise, this could be a draft floor decision depending on who is still on the board, but it would have to be considered IMO.

Forum: Trade Machine Proposals8 avr. à 17 h 7

Sujet: Hockey trade

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Element23VM</b></div><div>This is not a smart trade for the Habs... they'd lose basically the only 1D potential D they have and gain a guy who's basically what Caufield is...</div></div>

I understand where you are coming from. But Montreal desperately needs goals, and as much as I'd like to trade Harris for a goal scorer, that won't be happening. Now, maybe Hutson will sign this summer and start filling the net next season, but I think he will need some time in the AHL. Meanwhile, Lekkerimaki is potentially closer to the NHL, especially given how thin Montreal is up front, whereas the Canucks are thinner in D...

In a perfect world, we win the lottery, draft Celebrini, Hutson rises to stardom in no time, and the above trade is moot.

Forum: Trade Machine Proposals4 avr. à 12 h 27

Sujet: Holtz to NJD AndersonXhekaj to MTL TRADE

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Element23VM</b></div><div>Change the 3rd into Florian and give us the brothers and it'll be a yes for me.

I'm sure fans would hate it on both sides... but they would deservedly hate it on Montreal's side, and undeservedly hate it on NJ's side until about game 40 of next season when this team plays to their identity again.</div></div>

If we needed Anderson's cap space, that might make some sense. But given that we don't, that Anderson's value can only go up (there's really no more room below), and that we value the Xhekaj's more than anyone else in the league, this trade would be plain horrible

Forum: Trade Machine Proposals4 avr. à 9 h 28

Sujet: Draft

Statistics on the past couple of decades of draft picks reveal a stark difference between Top 10 and Bottom 10 first round picks. If I were a Kraken fan, I wouldn't really see the point of that trade, unless they have an urgent need for a bottom pair RHD with some (I said some) upside potential

Forum: Trade Machine Proposals4 avr. à 9 h 5

Sujet: Holtz to NJD AndersonXhekaj to MTL TRADE

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>dgibb10</b></div><div>Got it, so he's Ryan Reaves</div></div>

No. Chuck Norris.

Forum: Trade Machine Proposals3 avr. à 13 h 47

Sujet: For Necas Overly Complex I Know

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>evelutions2</b></div><div>A big cap dump and a prospect that has lost their shine isn’t getting Necas lol. Kind of like asking for Draisaitl but only offering Staal and R. Suzuki for him.</div></div>

You are right, this trade comes short. As a Carolina fan, what kind of return would you expect for Necas?

Forum: Trade Machine Proposals3 avr. à 9 h 27

Sujet: Jdjdjd

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Dom1422</b></div><div>How is this paying to dump a contract? Trading for a ppg 30 goal scoring top line winger and also moving Josh Anderson in the process isnt simply “dumping a contract”.</div></div>

My bad. Juggling too many balls at the same time. I read the first comment about getting rid of Anderson and forgot about Konecny being in the trade lol My apologies.

Forum: Trade Machine Proposals2 avr. à 9 h 18

Sujet: Jdjdjd

Why would we pay to dump a contract? We do not need this money any urgently...

Forum: Trade Machine Proposals22 mars à 13 h 52

Sujet: Has Acquire Barrett Hayton

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>bwhsocal</b></div><div>damn I would have guessed you are TML fan because they are biggest asses, but way to go MONT. per same site AZ has as of now 45m in contracts and 42m in cap space for next year. With 6 RFAs to sign - prolly 16-20m total - Ill do the math for you - that is 61 - 65m and then still have 5 roster slots to fill.</div></div>

I didn't say they would take on new ****ty contracts, I just said that you were off base pretending they'd never do. And as far as asses come, I was polite, and you are a rude... well let's just leave it at that.

Forum: Trade Machine Proposals21 mars à 13 h 43

Sujet: Has Acquire Barrett Hayton

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>bwhsocal</b></div><div>when you get your info from hack canadian (country not team) hockey 'reporting' i guess cant blame you for not knowing the actual situation.</div></div>

As of now, Arizona is carrying 23.14M worth of such contracts, actually paying out only 15.25M. Three of those contracts vanish this summer. Without those, they could be below the minimum cap hit next year. I am getting my info from an obscure website called capfriendly. You should try it...

Forum: Trade Machine Proposals19 mars à 12 h 45

Sujet: Has Acquire Barrett Hayton

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>my_name_is_Fil</b></div><div>this is creative. but im not sure prices contract can be moved just yet.</div></div>

From July 2nd, Arizona would have to pay 2M for a 10.5M cap hit; something they're bound to love. But that indeed comes with the 7.5M price tag in 25-26...

One thing is certain, if he's not traded this year, not too long after July 2nd 2025, Price will "finish his career" with another team.

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