Mrazek retiring mid season or something?

Vanecek is under contract next year. No reason not to take the free asset when it's available, right? Either he sucks again and helps the tank for Misa or whoever, or he's good and you can dish him at the deadline.

Basically a bottom pairing LHD, Goalie prospect and a 2024 1st isn't getting you both Hanifin and Markstrom. Wolf and Vladar only work if Calgary is going into full rebuild mode.

I can see New Jersey getting Hanafin.
But why would they need Jacob Markstrom?
If you remove Markstrom, the trade could work.
I can't see Vanecek wearing a Blackhawks jersey.

Tell me with a straight face that the Devils' current (league-worst) goaltending is adequate

I see it as Bahl+1st for Hanifin, and Daws for Markstrom. I'd add picks or B prospects for markstrom but as I explained I just don't think his value is much at all

Bahl I think can be more than third pair when he needs to be. He has played first and second pair with NJ.

Markstrom is not an expensive asset.

I don't see Calgary remotely interested in Daws, Wolf is their future. Bahl is only interesting because he's a 6'6" monster like Simon Edvinsson and the 1st which i seriously doubt that the Devils even make the playoffs this year.

Hanifin > Bahl+New Jerseys 2024 1st round pick. This offer would easily be beat.

Markstrom > Daws, No reason for Calgary to make this deal unless they go into full rebuild mode and just completely selloff.

Is NJ really in a position to take Markstrom’s contract, resign Hanifin, Taffoli, and Mercer? Is that a realistic option? Plus are they willing to wait until the playoffs for Hamilton? Is he willing to do that to circumvent the cap?

I agree you need to find a goalie without including Boston especially if you don’t want to pay much.

Why would Calgary do that? Its a low ball offer for Hanifin as is and then they are just giving away Markstrom too?

Signing Toffoli is not a good idea no matter the circumstance. Hanifin would walk no matter what.

Hamilton is out until April at the earliest

Rentals and goalies are worth less than you think. Daws is a solid prospect and you can never have too many goalies. Calgary should be rebuilding.

Rentals and goalies are worth less than you think, especially Markstrom

While i agree that Markstrom doesn't have much value, he's 33 and showing signs of decline. As for Hanifin he's going to have tons of suitors. And Bahl and NJ 2024 1st round pick isn't going to cut it.

If a player adds value to his team and he is under contract, then the cost to trade for that player goes up, regardless of the player's position. Markstrom has 3 years left, why rush to trade him if he is still their starter? I see so many fans of goalie needy teams make this claim that the team trading away a goalie should expect a light return, but that completely ignores other critical factors like in-season market dynamics. If the cost of getting a goalie is super cheap, why haven't any of those teams traded for one yet?

Huh? You are valuing Markstrom at negative in this post. That is fundamentally wrong. What am I missing?

Markstrom's NMC and Anaheim's likely high asking price for Gibson. Those are probably the only two starter-quality goalies on the market, and their contracts are awful

I am valuing Markstrom as worth a B-tier goalie prospect. Maybe this is a touch low, so throw in another prospect or a pick

Because he has some value right now, is 33, and goalies don’t tend to age well. If you’re in the rebuild next year, markstrom has fallen off, and he’s got a full NMC and 6 mill contract you are stuck with while trying to make wolf the starter, that isn’t ideal

Which might be accurate. 6 mill contract, 34 years old (and older goalies rarely do well, contrary to the narratives that are out there). With a full nmc

We’d be paying markstrom for 34,35,36 seasons. The list of goalies in the last decade who were productive starters is short to none.

Lol then if Markstrom requests a trade and specifically to New Jersey we might accept that but Calgary is under no pressure whatsoever to help you out of your goalie woes. If you want Vladar he can be had for cheap but Flames don't need Daws since Wolf is a strictly better prospect and Markstrom has proven twice already to be a great mentor to younger goalies, which we value very highly for Wolf's development.

Go ask Anaheim if they would accept that for Gibson, they would probably block your number too.

So your argument is "we want him but because of his age and contract we won't offer you anything of value" Lol ok. Flames will happily keep him

There is definitely risk for NJ to take on that contract, no doubt. But if CGY is entering a true rebuild as you say, the risk does not really apply to them. The only risk is opportunity cost of not trading him. If that cost is a tweener goalie prospect, then the opportunity cost is also low. They'd be better off waiting to see if he can inflate his value. I just don't see the incentive on the CGY side.

I think Daws is a sure shot to be a quality backup or 1B. He is 23 and is going on his third year as a top-tier goalie at the AHL level. I also think Markstrom's value can only go down from here.

I guess it depends on how CGY evaluates him. If they project him as a backup, that is still probably not worth much. A 1B, then maybe. But even rebuilding teams do not trade declining starters for backups, because they add little value and do not net much return if they are flipped.