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Créé par: csick
Équipe: 2023-24 Flames de Calgary
Date de création initiale: 23 déc. 2023
Publié: 23 déc. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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CGY
  1. Behrens, Sean [Liste de réserve]
  2. Foudy, Jean-Luc
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (COL)
COL
  1. Lindholm, Elias (2 400 000 $ retained)
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CGY
  1. Kyrou, Christian
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (DAL)
DAL
  1. Hanifin, Noah (2 452 500 $ retained)
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CGY
  1. Vilén, Topias
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (NJD)
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23 déc. 2023 à 15 h 25
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As the self-proclaimed number one topias vilen fan I am strongly against this trade

As a Devils fan who is almost but not entirely committed to the bit, I would live with this trade but I would not be pleased
23 déc. 2023 à 15 h 27
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I think Hanifin will be in higher demand than Lindholm, I think if Dallas wants him it will cost them at least Bischel and their 1st.

Offer for Tanev is quite underwhelming. Vilen is worth like a 5th. If Devil's fans value him higher they can keep him
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23 déc. 2023 à 15 h 28
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Avs accept immediately
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23 déc. 2023 à 15 h 28
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I think Hanifin will be in higher demand than Lindholm, I think if Dallas wants him it will cost them at least Bischel and their 1st.

Offer for Tanev is quite underwhelming. Vilen is worth like a 5th


I can’t see Dallas moving Bichsel. Vilen is def worth way more than a 5th
23 déc. 2023 à 15 h 31
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I can’t see Dallas moving Bichsel


For an extended Hanifin? I understand Harley but Bischel is a B+ prospect only
23 déc. 2023 à 15 h 33
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For an extended Hanifin? I understand Harley but Bischel is a B+ prospect only


I always saw Bichsel as another Edvinsson
23 déc. 2023 à 15 h 39
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I always saw Bichsel as another Edvinsson


Edvinsson hasn't even accomplished anything... But not they are different Edvinsson is a PMD

I think Bischel's ceiling is similar to Oleksiak. Big minute munching defensive dman, low offensive upside
23 déc. 2023 à 16 h 1
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These Trades are all underwhelming returns AFAIC

CGY needs Quality C & RD Prospects or Top-20 Picks, of which the only one here might be Kyrou, but he’s small…

With Solovyov & Poirier ready to move up, LD isn’t really a need unless it’s a BIG Shut Down 3LD, which we would look to acquire Logan Stanley, Kevin Bahl or Lian Bischel. IOW- I see no need for or interest in Behrins

IF the Flames Trade Tanev, it’ll definitely be for a 1st, even if they have to retain on him
23 déc. 2023 à 16 h 42
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Quoting: HockeyManiac95
Avs accept immediately


It’d hurt for COL though.

Prospect people seem to like Behrens and he should be close to NHL ready.

Foudy is such a fun prospect. Who knows if he’ll be anything at the NHL level, but he’s such an Avs-type player.
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23 déc. 2023 à 16 h 43
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the only way colorado does that trade is if lindholm signs an extension (which is doubtful given their cap situation)
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23 déc. 2023 à 16 h 44
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It’d hurt for COL though.

Prospect people seem to like Behrens and he should be close to NHL ready.

Foudy is such a fun prospect. Who knows if he’ll be anything at the NHL level, but he’s such an Avs-type player.


Completely agree. Foudy and Ritchie are untouchables imo. Avs have close tozero legit forward prospects. I’d be fine with Behrens going though.
23 déc. 2023 à 16 h 59
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Quoting: HockeyManiac95
Avs accept immediately


Quoting: kitkat_2001
Completely agree. Foudy and Ritchie are untouchables imo. Avs have close tozero legit forward prospects. I’d be fine with Behrens going though.


I would be thrilled if Calgary could get Behrens
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23 déc. 2023 à 17 h 6
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Completely agree. Foudy and Ritchie are untouchables imo. Avs have close tozero legit forward prospects. I’d be fine with Behrens going though.


Idk if Ritchie is untouchable necessarily. Still a big question mark.

I personally think Foudy is just so tailor-made for the Avs that it would be a shame to see him traded.
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23 déc. 2023 à 17 h 51
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I would be thrilled if Calgary could get Behrens


Behrens or Gulyayev imo
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23 déc. 2023 à 18 h 32
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Some Salary has to go back in the COL trade because they have Lehkonen on LTIR right now.
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23 déc. 2023 à 18 h 48
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Quoting: turtlemountain
Idk if Ritchie is untouchable necessarily. Still a big question mark.

I personally think Foudy is just so tailor-made for the Avs that it would be a shame to see him traded.


That’s why I said in my opinion lol
We just have no centers in the system though and we already are lacking at the NHL level…
Would much rather move a dman which we havel 2-3 of
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23 déc. 2023 à 20 h 57
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Quoting: turtlemountain
It’d hurt for COL though.

Prospect people seem to like Behrens and he should be close to NHL ready.

Foudy is such a fun prospect. Who knows if he’ll be anything at the NHL level, but he’s such an Avs-type player.


Yeah, it would hurt losing Behrens. But, who else are you trading in his spot? I'm not trying to debate you, just genuinely want to know who else.

As for Foudy, it's like you said. We don't know what he is, but we do know he's pretty much ready for the NHL. There are other guys we have like that.
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23 déc. 2023 à 20 h 59
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That’s why I said in my opinion lol
We just have no centers in the system though and we already are lacking at the NHL level…
Would much rather move a dman which we havel 2-3 of


Exactly
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23 déc. 2023 à 21 h 47
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Yeah, it would hurt losing Behrens. But, who else are you trading in his spot? I'm not trying to debate you, just genuinely want to know who else.

As for Foudy, it's like you said. We don't know what he is, but we do know he's pretty much ready for the NHL. There are other guys we have like that.


I’d probably trade Gulyayev over Behrens. Same with Olausson and Foudy. Value should be net the same. Behrens projects to be NHL ready faster than Guly. And Olausson and Foudy are probably comparable in value, maybe even with OO carrying more.

At the end of the day, Avs just have such a thin prospect pool. There’s only like… 5 guys with any form of value
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24 déc. 2023 à 19 h 20
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I’d probably trade Gulyayev over Behrens. Same with Olausson and Foudy. Value should be net the same. Behrens projects to be NHL ready faster than Guly. And Olausson and Foudy are probably comparable in value, maybe even with OO carrying more.

At the end of the day, Avs just have such a thin prospect pool. There’s only like… 5 guys with any form of value


Fair enough
 
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