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Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 3 - Winter Blues

30 déc. 2023 à 22 h 43
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Ummmmmm I don’t know. A first Brett Howden and Stephenson maybe. You would have to retain 50% on Nylander to be within the cap for Vegas. But yeah I say that would be probably all I would give up for him. We don’t really need Nylander to be honest but would be nice to have if we don’t destroy our future for him


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31 déc. 2023 à 1 h 26
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The funny thing I just noticed

Keefe "There needs to be some accountability"

And how does he do it

Healthy scratching...David Kampf a depth guy who basically is your defensive specialist and PK guy and what happened Canes 2/4 PP lul

If u really want to send a message u scratch one of the big 4. Not your defensive 4C. As those guys dont show up every night and they make the majority of the $$$$$

Idk Keefe be potentially on his las legs and may end up like Gallant in VGK (fired even with a winning record lul) cause what we doing rn lul
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31 déc. 2023 à 14 h 4
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Sammy on waivers. A growler tendie was called up to the marlies.

Good luck kid. It's hildebeast time
31 déc. 2023 à 14 h 9
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Sammy on waivers. A growler tendie was called up to the marlies.

Good luck kid. It's hildebeast time


Such a bad choice by leafs management to rush this kid

Should have been Petruzelli as this is just gonna hurt his development

Cause hes just gonna be a seat-warmer
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31 déc. 2023 à 14 h 13
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And just in case anyone had any doubts.
Sammy was the problem
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31 déc. 2023 à 14 h 16
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And just in case anyone had any doubts.
Sammy was the problem
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As we saw yesterday sammy has been shown to be a problem in one area of this team but not the main one.

Look at the goals scored by Carolina free defensive real-estate

Even if the goalie performs missed defensive assignments will lead to goals.

Cause even when he wasnt playing they still found a way to lose and in regulation to and this with Jones who had a 0.925 in net....

Keefe be treading thin water rn
31 déc. 2023 à 14 h 18
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As we saw yesterday he was a problem but not the main one

Look at the goals scored by Carolina free defensive real-estate

Even if the goalie performs missed defensive assignments will lead to goals.

Cause even when he wasnt playing they still found a way to lose and in regulation to and this with Jones who had a 0.925 in net....


Dude, no offense but **** off with this stuff.
He is very clearly the main problem
31 déc. 2023 à 14 h 20
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Dude, no offense but **** off with this stuff.
He is very clearly the main problem


So if he was the main problem how did they lose yesterday in regulation?

Was he in net?

Was he penalty killing?

Was he playing forward?

No

The problem was missed defensive assignments. They were getting saves by Jones but gave Canes 2 very easy PP goals

No matter whose in net if your doing this your gonna bleed points. Defense has been the main issue for this team a 5 game sample size dont change that. Just go look at the Bunting goal. Nobody covering him goes middle of the lane goal, seen that to many times this year more so than Sammy playing
31 déc. 2023 à 14 h 21
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So if he was the main problem how did they lose yesterday in regulation?

Was he in net?

Was he penalty killing?

Was he playing forward?

No

The problem was missed defensive assignments. They were getting saves by Jones but gave Canes 2 very easy PP goals


That little black tick up on the chart is the defensive issues you keep yelling about. Compared to Sammy it's a drop in the bucket
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31 déc. 2023 à 14 h 21
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Such a bad choice by leafs management to rush this kid

Should have been Petruzelli as this is just gonna hurt his development

Cause hes just gonna be a seat-warmer


They aren't rushing him. They will give a rookie a start or two. The pressure is small. Be better than Sammy was. Right now that's really not hard. Go out and enjoy yourself.
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31 déc. 2023 à 14 h 22
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That little black tick up on the chart is the defensive issues you keep yelling about. Compared to Sammy it's a drop in the bucket


In general until defensive structure is improved it wont matter whose in net they aint going no where.

Even if Sammy rebounds we now know defense structure in front aint helping anyone as whosever's in charge rn just promoting missed assignments left and right lul
31 déc. 2023 à 14 h 23
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They aren't rushing him. They will give a rookie a start or two. The pressure is small. Be better than Sammy was. Right now that's really not hard. Go out and enjoy yourself.


Hildeby has not played in NA before. This is his first year

Hildeby is a very sensitive goalie. One wrong move and we could ruin him

Hes being rushed. Hes gonna mainly be a seat warmer and thats gonna hurt his development. He maybe gets one game what good is that.

Should have been Petruzelli as who cares hes done once his deals done

Nick Barden said it best in his interview with him
31 déc. 2023 à 14 h 23
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So if he was the main problem how did they lose yesterday in regulation?

Was he in net?

Was he penalty killing?

Was he playing forward?

No

The problem was missed defensive assignments. They were getting saves by Jones but gave Canes 2 very easy PP goals

No matter whose in net if your doing this your gonna bleed points. Defense has been the main issue for this team a 5 game sample size dont change that. Just go look at the Bunting goal. Nobody covering him goes middle of the lane goal, seen that to many times this year more so than Sammy playing


It was the second half of a back to back. Where only one team had played the night before. You are the king of making up excuses to fit your opinion while ignoring everything that goes counter to it.
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31 déc. 2023 à 14 h 25
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It was the second half of a back to back. Where only one team had played the night before. You are the king of making up excuses to fit your opinion while ignoring everything that goes counter to it.


Thats not a good excuse considering Leafs lost to multiple teams who were on second half of b2b

Team just cant keep getting Mulligans

They already used their 3 this season (5-2 NYR, 6-5 CBJ came back from 5-0 and both TBL games)
31 déc. 2023 à 14 h 32
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It’s nice to see more fans join the “TOR should stand pat” at the TDL.

Treliving’s only purpose from now till then is finding a resolution to Nylander extension or finding a trade partner if they can’t come to an agreement.
31 déc. 2023 à 14 h 33
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Hildeby has not played in NA before. This is his first year

Hildeby is a very sensitive goalie. One wrong move and we could ruin him

Hes being rushed. Hes gonna mainly be a seat warmer and thats gonna hurt his development. He maybe gets one game what good is that.

Should have been Petruzelli as who cares hes done once his deals done

Nick Barden said it best in his interview with him


Bourne I believe put it better. Bring him up to play against Anaheim this week, then send him back down and either just keep Petrulezzi for the next back to back next week, or bring Hilldeby up for the other start while making sure he doesn't miss starts on the farm.

You have been a huge Sammy supporter since last season. And once you get stuck on something that's it, nothing will change your mind. The fact that you are blaming the defence and not him is telling. It's foolish to say they don't need to improve their defensive positioning as well but Jones and Woll have made saves that keep them winning. Samsonov doesn't make any right now. He's broken and running him out just isn't working right now. Hopefully he bounces back but I said it last year in the playoffs. Woll's the guy. He isn't weak between the ears.
31 déc. 2023 à 14 h 35
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So I guess it's Hildeby's time to shine? Leafs were also interested in Brian Elliotte this offseason, maybe he's a guy to look at (although he's not much better IMO). Maybe Halak?

It'll be Hildebeast for now (which also means Luke Cavallin will get a look with the Marlies which is exciting), but I wonder if that's the long term plan
31 déc. 2023 à 14 h 37
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So I guess it's Hildeby's time to shine? Leafs were also interested in Brian Elliotte this offseason, maybe he's a guy to look at (although he's not much better IMO). Maybe Halak?

It'll be Hildebeast for now (which also means Luke Cavallin will get a look with the Marlies which is exciting), but I wonder if that's the long term plan


Just call petruzelli it's better for everyone

Hildeby can continue developing and we got our seat warmer
31 déc. 2023 à 14 h 41
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It’s nice to see more fans join the “TOR should stand pat” at the TDL.

Treliving’s only purpose from now till then is finding a resolution to Nylander extension or finding a trade partner if they can’t come to an agreement.



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31 déc. 2023 à 14 h 52
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It’s nice to see more fans join the “TOR should stand pat” at the TDL.

Treliving’s only purpose from now till then is finding a resolution to Nylander extension or finding a trade partner if they can’t come to an agreement.


Just sign him, stop dragging your heals. Get him signed for 8*10. You wanted under 9 when you should have aimed for 9.5 in the off season and now you are stuck. Just meet the 10 mill ask and get it done. Treliving sucks
31 déc. 2023 à 14 h 54
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Just call petruzelli it's better for everyone

Hildeby can continue developing and we got our seat warmer


I don't really care one way or another who gets called up. It should be Hilldeby though, he's been better and deserves a start. Just come up vs Anaheim, make the saves you are supposed to and enjoy it. No pressure at all. Petrulezzi hasn't been very good this season. There is a good chance he's not going to be all that good.
31 déc. 2023 à 14 h 55
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Quoting: NorthernLeafsFan05
So I guess it's Hildeby's time to shine? Leafs were also interested in Brian Elliotte this offseason, maybe he's a guy to look at (although he's not much better IMO). Maybe Halak?

It'll be Hildebeast for now (which also means Luke Cavallin will get a look with the Marlies which is exciting), but I wonder if that's the long term plan


Really the hope is Jones can hold down the fort for a few weeks until Woll is back. Then it's Woll and Jones which is good enough. Jones isn't very good but he's fine
31 déc. 2023 à 15 h 2
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I don't really care one way or another who gets called up. It should be Hilldeby though, he's been better and deserves a start. Just come up vs Anaheim, make the saves you are supposed to and enjoy it. No pressure at all. Petrulezzi hasn't been very good this season. There is a good chance he's not going to be all that good.


He's better but at the same time it's his first season in NA and he's a sensitive goalie. Plus if he's up he's only getting 3 games in a 4 week span that's a lot of sitting and not developing or improving

Petruzelli probs won't get qualified after this year. Who cares if he sits to long

For the better that's the guy to call up for everyone' from.Sammy to Hildeby
31 déc. 2023 à 15 h 5
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Just call petruzelli it's better for everyone

Hildeby can continue developing and we got our seat warmer


No it is not lmfao Petruzzelli is not him
31 déc. 2023 à 15 h 13
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No it is not lmfao Petruzzelli is not him


We're putting way to much faith in Hildeby and it's gonna backfire

He's only gonna play 3 games in 4 weeks who cares Petruzelli can do it

Petruzelli can be the searwarmer and Hildeby can continue developing and getting better with the Marlies. As all that sitting won't help Hildeby
 
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