NHL Worst Value Players according to The Athletic

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Créé par: NHLfan10506

Équipe: 2023-24 Équipe personnalisée

Date de création initiale: 3 déc. 2023

Publié: 3 déc. 2023

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

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Relative to salary

1. Nicklas Backstrom (C-WAS)
2. Seth Jones (RD-CHI)
3. Marc-Edouard Vlasic (RD-SJS)
4. Colton Parayko (RD-STL)
5. Cam Fowler (LD-ANA)

6. Evgeny Kuznetsov (C-WAS)
7. Patrik Laine (RW-CBJ)
8. Jonathan Huberdeau (LW-CGY)
9. T.J. Oshie (RW-WAS)
10. Josh Anderson (RW-MTL)

11. Alex Ovechkin (LW-WAS)
12. Jakob Silfverberg (RW-ANA)
13. Nate Schmidt (RD-WPG)
14. Erik Cernak (RD-TBL)
15. Jamie Benn (LW-DAL)

16. Mikhail Sergachev (LD-TBL)
17. Tyler Johnson (RW-CHI)
18. Brendan Gallagher (RW-MTL)
19. Ryan Pulock (RD-NYI)
20. Samuel Girard (LD-COL)

21. Kevin Labanc (RW-SJS)
22. Andrew Copp (C-DET)
23. Christian Dvorak (C-MTL)
24. Mike Hoffman (RW-SJS)
25. Darnell Nurse (LD-EDM)

26. Josh Norris (C-OTT)
27. Dmitry Orlov (LD-CAR)
28. Dylan Cozens (C-BUF)
29. Anders Lee (LW-NYI)
30. Connor Murphy (RD-CHI)

31. Johnny Gaudreau (LW-CBJ)
32. Tyler Myers (RD-VAN)
33. Josh Manson (RD-COL)
34. Mattias Samuelsson (LD-BUF)
35. Andreas Athanasiou (LW-CHI)

36. Zach Werenski (LD-CBJ)
37. John Klingberg (RD-TOR)
38. Pierre-Luc Dubois (C-LAK)
39. Erik Gudbranson (RD-CBJ)
40. Nick Leddy (LD-STL)

41. Torey Krug (LD-STL)
42. Adam Henrique (LW-ANA)
43. Jean-Gabriel Pageau (C-NYI)
44. Victor Olofsson (RW-BUF)
45. Nikita Zaitsev (RD-CHI)

46. Matt Dumba (RD-ARI)
47. Mathew Barzal (C-NYI)
48. Tyler Seguin (C-DAL)
49. Barclay Goodrow (LW-NYR)
50. Ryan Strome (C-ANA)

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TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
21	83 500 000 $	144 950 000 $	0 $	0 $	-61 450 000 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Huberdeau, Jonathan 10 500 000 $10 500 000 $ AG, AD NMC UFA - 8	Bäckström, Nicklas 9 200 000 $9 200 000 $ C M-NTC UFA - 2	Oshie, T.J. 5 750 000 $5 750 000 $ AD M-NTC UFA - 2
Ovechkin, Alex 9 500 000 $9 500 000 $ AG M-NTC, NMC UFA - 3	Kuznetsov, Evgeny 3 900 000 $3 900 000 $ C M-NTC UFA - 2	Anderson, Josh 5 500 000 $5 500 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC UFA - 4
Silfverberg, Jakob 5 250 000 $5 250 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC UFA - 1	Laine, Patrik 8 700 000 $8 700 000 $ C, AD, AG M-NTC UFA - 3	Johnson, Tyler 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ AD, C, AG M-NTC UFA - 1
Benn, Jamie 9 500 000 $9 500 000 $ AG, C NMC UFA - 2	Copp, Andrew 5 625 000 $5 625 000 $ C, AG, AD M-NTC UFA - 4	Gallagher, Brendan 6 500 000 $6 500 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC, NMC UFA - 4

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Vlasic, Marc-Édouard 7 000 000 $7 000 000 $ DG/DD M-NTC UFA - 3	Jones, Seth 9 500 000 $9 500 000 $ DD NMC UFA - 7
Fowler, Cam 6 500 000 $6 500 000 $ DG/DD M-NTC UFA - 3	Parayko, Colton 6 500 000 $6 500 000 $ DD NTC UFA - 7
Schmidt, Nate 5 950 000 $5 950 000 $ DG/DD M-NTC UFA - 2	Cernak, Erik 5 200 000 $5 200 000 $ DD UFA - 8

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Sergachev, Mikhail 8 500 000 $8 500 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 8
Pulock, Ryan 6 150 000 $6 150 000 $ DD NTC UFA - 7
Labanc, Kevin 4 725 000 $4 725 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 1

3 déc. 2023 à 22 h 40

brady_t12

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Look at that caps core…

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3 déc. 2023 à 22 h 43

Texas416_er

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Seems fair overall. More than half are solid players, but overpaid, others just caught their respective GMs the day before they quit sniffing glue.

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3 déc. 2023 à 22 h 45

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Quoting: brady_t12

Look at that caps core…

Yeah, am guessing the author doesn't like the Caps much

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3 déc. 2023 à 23 h 11

imawesome

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Cernak and Pulock shouldn't be here at all. Jones is obviously overpaid but he definitely shouldn't be 2. Over Vlasic is wild

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3 déc. 2023 à 23 h 12

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I couldn't find the article

3 déc. 2023 à 23 h 14

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Quoting: imawesome

Cernak and Pulock shouldn't be here at all. Jones is obviously overpaid but he definitely shouldn't be 2. Over Vlasic is wild

So its a net of salary

Backstrom makes 9.2m...is worth 1.3m = -7.9m

1. Nicklas Backstrom (C-WAS)….....-7.9m
2. Seth Jones (RD-CHI)…..................-6.3m
3. Marc-Edouard Vlasic (RD-SJS)….-6.2m
4. Colton Parayko (RD-STL).........….-5.7m
5. Cam Fowler (LD-ANA)…...............-5.7m

6. Evgeny Kuznetsov (C-WAS).....….-5.6m
7. Patrik Laine (RW-CBJ)…...............-5.4m
8. Jonathan Huberdeau (LW-CGY).-5.1m
9. T.J. Oshie (RW-WAS)…..................-4.9m
10. Josh Anderson (RW-MTL)….......-4.7m

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3 déc. 2023 à 23 h 15

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Quoting: Britishbulldog

I couldn't find the article

NHL Player Cards: Atlantic Division

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3 déc. 2023 à 23 h 22

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Quoting: imawesome

Cernak and Pulock shouldn't be here at all. Jones is obviously overpaid but he definitely shouldn't be 2. Over Vlasic is wild

On a small sample size things will happen like this for sure

3 déc. 2023 à 23 h 25

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The amount of former Jets on this list makes me think Chevy might just know what he's doing. Schmidt is on there (quite rightly lol) but Chevy didn't sign him and he's been playing alright this year even if he's getting bought out this summer.

7. Patrik Laine (RW-CBJ)
13. Nate Schmidt (RD-WPG)
22. Andrew Copp (C-DET)
32. Tyler Myers (RD-VAN)
38. Pierre-Luc Dubois (C-LAK)

No one should ever buy a player from Kevin Chevaldayoff, you're walking into a bullet every time.

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3 déc. 2023 à 23 h 32

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Can’t believe Campbell isn’t on here lol

3 déc. 2023 à 23 h 36

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Quoting: RationalHockeyFan

If Wheeler still had his old deal, he would be top-5 on this list.

Chiarot, Trouba, Hayes, Roslovic aren't too far off either...all fairly negative

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3 déc. 2023 à 23 h 37

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Quoting: SomeonesOffended

Can’t believe Campbell isn’t on here lol

no goalies

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3 déc. 2023 à 23 h 42

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Where's Tavares on this?

People keep telling me how bad of a contract he is... But he's not here and Goodrow is, so it shouldn't be THAT bad

4 déc. 2023 à 0 h 22

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Way too much attention paid to this clown, who doesn't watch much hockey or understand it.

4 déc. 2023 à 1 h 3

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It's nice to hear people stop ragging on the KK deal

4 déc. 2023 à 9 h 21

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Quoting: Leafsfan98

Where's Tavares on this?

People keep telling me how bad of a contract he is... But he's not here and Goodrow is, so it shouldn't be THAT bad

Tavares
Market Value: $10.3m
Salary: $11.0
Net: -$0.7

Goodrow
Market Value: Min
Salary: $3.6
Net: -$2.8

4 déc. 2023 à 9 h 22

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Quoting: seanrushton

It's nice to hear people stop ragging on the KK deal

Kotkaniemi
Market Value: $4.7m
Salary: $4.8m
Net: -$0.1m

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4 déc. 2023 à 9 h 23

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Quoting: NHLfan10506

Tavares
Market Value: $10.3m
Salary: $11.0
Net: -$0.7

Goodrow
Market Value: Min
Salary: $3.6
Net: -$2.8

That Tavares contract actually isn't as bad as I thought it would be...

Especially considering all the "Worst contracts team" I always see including him

4 déc. 2023 à 9 h 24

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Way too much attention paid to this clown, who doesn't watch much hockey or understand it.

Its data...the best analytics people understand the limitations of the models

Its just one input of many

4 déc. 2023 à 9 h 26

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Quoting: Leafsfan98

That Tavares contract actually isn't as bad as I thought it would be...

Especially considering all the "Worst contracts team" I always see including him

If you had said in year 1 that Tavares would be near full value at year 6 of deal....people would be happy with it

4 déc. 2023 à 9 h 32

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If you had said in year 1 that Tavares would be near full value at year 6 of deal....people would be happy with it

Exactly, especially considering how he's still scoring goals...

4 déc. 2023 à 11 h 42

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Its data...the best analytics people understand the limitations of the models

Its just one input of many

Heh. His model is NOT data. It's a subjective formula. Two very different things. And I'm fairly sure he thumbs the scale, too.

4 déc. 2023 à 12 h 20

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Quoting: NHLfan10506

Jones has gotta be worth now than 3.2, and I don't even want to know what he values Cernak at

4 déc. 2023 à 12 h 25

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What are the numbers on Nurse?

4 déc. 2023 à 12 h 32

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Quoting: NHLfan10506

Kotkaniemi
Market Value: $4.7m
Salary: $4.8m
Net: -$0.1m

And that's just from last year if I remember right... he's improved his game since last year

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