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Créé par: whiff1
Équipe: 2023-24 Capitals de Washington
Date de création initiale: 2 déc. 2023
Publié: 2 déc. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
WSH
  1. Liljegren, Timothy
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (TOR)
TOR
  1. van Riemsdyk, Trevor (1 500 000 $ retained)
Détails additionnels:
just thinking

inspired by mccabe/sandin trades
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2024
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2025
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2026
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2283 500 000 $67 740 000 $20 000 $315 000 $15 760 000 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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9 500 000 $9 500 000 $
AG
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 3
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3 900 000 $3 900 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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5 166 667 $5 166 667 $
AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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863 333 $863 333 $
AG, C
RFA - 1
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
C
UFA - 5
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2 850 000 $2 850 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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1 900 000 $1 900 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 3
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance232 500 $$232K)
C
RFA - 2
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789 167 $789 167 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
AD, AG, C
UFA - 1
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762 500 $762 500 $
C, AG
RFA - 1
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1 300 000 $1 300 000 $
C
UFA - 2
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1 225 000 $1 225 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
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775 000 $775 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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2 675 000 $2 675 000 $
DG/DD
RFA - 3
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8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
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4 050 000 $4 050 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
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1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
G
UFA - 2
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875 000 $875 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
DD
RFA - 1
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825 000 $825 000 $
DG/DD
RFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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5 750 000 $5 750 000 $
AD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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9 200 000 $9 200 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 000 000 $$2M)
AG
NMC
UFA - 1

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2 déc. 2023 à 10 h 28
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Quoting: whiff1
skill issue

tvr at 50% retained is easily worth a 1st+


If tvr is worth a 1st, liljegren is worth two
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2 déc. 2023 à 10 h 28
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salary cap increasing makes tvr at 1.5m for two years even more valuable lol

good try


You know what’s more valuable than TVR at $1.5M for 2 years? … Liljegren at around $2.5M- $3M for 4-5 years.

This is honestly a terrible deal. Just give it a rest bud. There’s no justification in it for Toronto. None.
2 déc. 2023 à 10 h 28
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Lol, you literally haven't given a single reason that tvr is better or even as good


i’m not trying to convince you?
2 déc. 2023 à 10 h 29
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Quoting: whiff1
salary cap increasing makes tvr at 1.5m for two years even more valuable lol

good try


Hahaha what? No it doesnt, it decreases the value of the retention between the percentage of the total cap saved is significantly less.
What amazingly bad logic
2 déc. 2023 à 10 h 30
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i’m not trying to convince you?


Says a lot about how good your argument when you cant even pretend to defend it, eh??
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2 déc. 2023 à 10 h 31
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Quoting: GreatWhiteNorth
You know what’s more valuable than TVR at $1.5M for 2 years? … Liljegren at around $2.5M- $3M for 4-5 years.

This is honestly a terrible deal. Just give it a rest bud. There’s no justification in it for Toronto. None.


using an imaginary extension to win the argument LOL
2 déc. 2023 à 10 h 31
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Quoting: whiff1
skill issue

tvr at 50% retained is easily worth a 1st+


I would never give a 1st round pick for a 3rd pair dman.
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2 déc. 2023 à 10 h 32
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
Says a lot about how good your argument when you cant even pretend to defend it, eh??



you’re slow jared
2 déc. 2023 à 10 h 32
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using an imaginary extension to win the argument LOL


Well at least we can agree that I’ve won the debate. Now welcome to the ignore list, no time for arrogant, bias, ignorant users with comments like this.
2 déc. 2023 à 10 h 33
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Quoting: whiff1
?


Dude - you’re randomly posting a prepostetous trade about a rival team, because you think it’s clever and insulting to them?
You just don’t see posts like this about the Caps or other mid teams.
No team illicits more negative feedback than the Leafs 🤷🏻; jealousy is a great motivator.
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2 déc. 2023 à 10 h 34
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you’re slow jared


Lol, cant defend your point and jumps to insults when called out on it. Running that mad onlone playbook to a T.
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2 déc. 2023 à 10 h 36
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Quoting: MitchJr
Dude - you’re randomly posting a prepostetous trade about a rival team, because you think it’s clever and insulting to them?
You just don’t see posts like this about the Caps or other mid teams.
No team illicits more negative feedback than the Leafs 🤷🏻; jealousy is a great motivator.


LOL this has to be bait
2 déc. 2023 à 10 h 38
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LOL this has to be bait


Keep focusing on the Leafs bud; and I’ll go back to not caring about the Caps
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2 déc. 2023 à 13 h 1
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using an imaginary extension to win the argument LOL


https://www.naturalstattrick.com/playercompare.php?fromseason=20222023&thruseason=20232024&stype=2&sit=5v5&score=all&stdoi=oi&rate=y&p1=8477845&p2=8480043&loc=B&gpfilt=none&fd=&td=&tgp=410&lines=single

There numbers are very similar, you might think TVR is better, other Liljegren, either way it's certainly not by much. TVR (32) at 1.5M for 2 more seasons is nice, but for a team that has an aging defense and only one long-term contract, having Liljegren (25) for 4Mx2 or 3 or 5 or 8 i+ a 1st is going to be far more valuable. Liljegren still has room for growth and if he doesn't then his still just as good or even better than TVR already.

This isn't like the Sandin + McCabe deals combined, Sandin returned a 1st+older similar UFA player and McCabe returned a 1st+2nd or a 1st depending on how you look at it, so if anything you should have suggested a 1 for 1.
2 déc. 2023 à 13 h 52
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Nah lul
 
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