Definite no from Boston. Maybe something along the lines of Lysell + 1st + 2nd as a starting point.

I'd love that return if I was Calgary but, Boston giving up it's most NHL ready and arguably best forward and defense prospects is asking a lot.
I'd say 1 of the 2 and maybe a different prospect, probably not both

Yeah absolutely not

Yeah thats a massive overpay - more likely Lysell, a first, and a non-core roster player.

Lol. No. McDavid maybe. Not Lindholm.

1st/Lysell/2nd is roughly the value. Boston would have to include some cap going back, if that cap has value the package gets lighter.

Bruh

Yeah Boston definitely says no to that

I do believe there is a trade for either Hertl or Lindholm, but I am pretty comfortable that it doesn’t include Poitras. They’ll take the chance that a player hits free agency before making that deal

Hard pass on Hertl. At best he is fairly paid, and within a few years he will likely be overpaid. Plus that contract has another 6 years after this one.

You do realize Lindholm is signing an 8 year contract when he’s 29. Hertl’s contract at his age is one of the appealing aspects of acquiring him.

There is part of me that would rather have him than Lindholm when I weigh price to acquire and contract even though I acknowledge Lindholm is the better player

If you were talking about Logan Couture, I agree 100 percent that his contract is not one that I want at all

Yeah I also think Lindholm would probably be a bad idea, I just didn't include him because we don't know for sure what his next contract will be.

We know we’d have to pay for him to exit free agency. I think it’s safe to say that it exceeds Bo Hovart’s considering there is cash available at the end of this free agent class

Agreed. Personally I'd like to see what we have in Poitras with a stop-gap 2-3 year option (e.g. Stamkos would be a great target if possible) rather than committing to a full 7 years or so with Lindholm or Hertl

2021-22 Elias Lindholm wouldn't even get this kind of package.

If Lindholm were 24 and signing, he would warrant a package like this. Hes not. My guess is the package would be centered around Lysell, DeBrusk, and a #1. If that isn’t enough, then we move on with our 8-0-1 team

You are definitely not getting that without a guaranteed extension for Lindholm. That's too much for a rental. Some of that would need to be conditional on him resigning probably the 1st.

That's not getting Lindholm. A smaller prospect winger with questionable effort, a pending UFA winger and a very late 1st doesn't cut it.

Lindholm is a pending UFA. Lol. So if that devalues Debrusk it does the same for Elias.

If Debrusk is in the package you don’t get both the 1st and Lysell. Lol.

Give your head a shake. Lindholm would certainly extend in Boston, Debrusk wouldn't extend in Calgary with the way things are there now especially not if they trade their 1st line center away and don't even get a half decent young center like Poitras to replace him.

Besides the very last thing Calgary needs or wants is yet another left shot winger especially not a mediocre 27 year old who'd just be blocking the young left shot wingers we already have too many of.

Team needs and player values are two different things entirely.

You may not want or need Debrusk. But as iI said, if he’s in the package you are accepting him at his value. Which means you don’t get both !st and Lysell with him, only one of those pieces. 🤷🏻‍♂️

Not wanting him in the package is a different conversation.

Flames have 0 need for debrusk with the direction they're going given his age and contract status. Lysell is also not a very interesting prospect for the flames for lindholm. A late 1st 2025 1st is also not that enticing. There will be alot of demand for Lindholm.

Lindholm would cost poitras + 2025 1st minimum

Whether Calgary fans like it or not, any team that trades for Lindholm is going to pay in excess of 9 million through age 37 to keep him. Do teams put the negative value associated with the backend of that deal in an offer or do they value him only for this year?

If Calgary thought he was worth that or he was willing to sign on in Calgary, he’d already be signed to a deal. There is a gap there somewhere. The best way to maximize return is to Remove uncertainty.

On a side note, Lysell is about the same size as Coronato and didn’t have the benefit of playing in Hockey East last year. Pretty comparable skill sets overall. Lysell has some warts or he’d be up with the big club, but talent wise … he also has some elite skills. Minimize him all you want. I doubt you are getting a better prospect in return coupled with a first round pick for Lindholm.

Either you pay the price or you don't get Lindholm. Low ball offers won't get you either of the two best Bergeron replacements you could find in the entire league (Barkov being the other).

Lol. Boston does not trade Poitras for Lindholm straight up.

The fact that Poitras has arrived early means the need for another center is not as urgent.

As far as the 1st goes, you are not getting a top 15 pick. Buyers at the deadline all pick in the bottom half of the draft.


I agree they should not be interested in Debrusk. But that was never the point.

Keep him 🤷🏻‍♂️

Boston not paying double his market value and with the arrival Poitras the need is nowhere near what it was a month ago.

If goes free agent and they still want him they will make an offer.

If they go a trade route they are not making a move that does not make sense for Boston.

Lindholm’s value is 1st/young roster player or prospect/and 2nd or 3rd depending on who that 2nd piece is. He’s put up 3 years of first line production in 10 years. Not exactly sure fire top tier player.

He’d fit well in Boston but they are not desperate…anymore.