Batherson and Pinto are both younger, and will very likely be more productive combined than Lindholm ove the next several years

Columbus takes that.

Calgary won't accept any of those lowball offers.

That's quite a gamble

I mean... what kind of production do you expect Lindholm to have? He had that monster season with 40 goals, but that's not who he has been for the vast majority of his career. This season is a wash with the Pinto suspension, but it's not crazy to suggest that Batherson+Pinto will out produce Lindholm on his own, and for the duration of Batherson's contract, they'll do it for several million less

I was making a gambling joke

For Sabres it all depends on contract extension. For rental - no, thank you.

Sabres are pretty set on 1C 2C 3C going forward, so it would have to be very team friendly extension.

The problem for the Canes is the extension that he will very likely demand. He’s likely going to demand a long term extension at about 8.5mil, and similar to Horvat and PLD, he isn’t worth it. Besides, with KK’s emergence and need for Lindholm is gone.

Oh lmao

I’m in the minority of Canes fans, but id take that immediately. Canes would make 3 top 6 forward lines and an elite checking line with Staal.

My thought with Ottawa was that with players like Greig, Ostapchuk, Boucher, Jarventie plus whoever else they draft (if they pan out obviously) would give them a really good top 6 that can provide a really good amount of offense along with solid two way play. Honestly though Ottawa was just a throw in to see what people thought of it.

Lindholm turns 29 y/o in 1 month... How much term and AAV will he be looking for? If he looks for max term, that'd bring him to basically 38 years old. Historical data suggests that his production is not going to go up... so just Batherson could be more productive in the next few years. Batherson also makes less than 5.0 AAV for the next 4 years, not smart to move that contract at all.

Then there is 22 y/o Pinto, who Ottawa obviously values a lot, despite all the narratives that have been made on CF lately


I like Lindholm and if he was younger and could be extended to a 6.5 AAV x 8 years contract, then yeah it'd be worth it but he is close to 29 y/o so moot point. Not the type of move a team trying to finally get out of their rebuild needs to make

Pinto will be a solid 2-way center. Batherson is pure offense but can be fine defensively in the right situation. But 3 factors play against him right now : 1) coaching can't instill 2-way play to save their lives 2) Norris just got back, will need time to play a more complete game 3) need a LWer like Joseph or Greig.

Plus Sens also have Stutzle, Norris and Greig... who would be moved to the Wing?


Finally, Ottawa's package (and Boston, Buffalo) is quite more valuable than Carolina, Philadelphia, Seattle and packages.

These are all terrible for the flames.

Well below even the Horvat trade, which wasn't seen as they great of value.

Lindholm- as much as i like him- is gonna demand way too much $$$ on his next contract to make sense for us

Sabres just aren’t a good fit
*not unless he signs for around $7-8mil & we move Tage or Cozens to the wing
But with all the forward talent we have coming, i just don’t see it happening

That was my thougth - if there is a chance player like Lindholm comes on very team friendly deal, then moving Cozens or Mittsy to wing would be nice problem to have. But there is no need to pay above market price.

And there’s little chance he comes with a team friendly deal that we’d need to be willing to make the trade