1. Parayko is not waiving his NTC.

2. Pinto wants 2.5 million x 2

Blues accept, OTT probably doesn't

Parayko's best hockey is behind him, and that contract will be a huge black eye before it's over. I understand the idea you're going for, but Parayko is NOT that guy

Why wouldn’t Parayko waive his no trade clause? Brady could talk him into it.

What Pinto wants isn’t necessarily what Pinto gets.

Parayko is worth nowhere near Chabot...

Not sure if Paryayko is a top 40 RD, definitely not 30.

Chabot is a top 15-20 RD

Heard it was his asking price Pinto wants $2.5M Ottawa is offering $2M on a 2-year deal.... They likely split the difference. Especially if Ottawa continues to play well and Greig keeps doing the job. Pinto has no leverage and $200K is likely not enough to risk missing out on $2M+ a year of development.

1. Parayko has been with the Blues organization since he was drafted.

I'd also imagine that he lives in the St. Louis area with a family.

A trade would uproot all of those things.

HIs NTC serves as a veto against the 31 other NHL teams.



2. What the Ottawa Senators want isn't necessarily what they'll get either.

If Pinto wanted less than 2.5 million x 2, he would have signed by now.

He does have one piece of leverage, which is too often overlooked on this site.

And that is a refusal to sign what is offered to him.

If Josh Norris' shoulder injury recurs or another centreman gets hurt, we might need Pinto more than ever.

I agree Chabot is the better defenseman. However I think haveing 3 elite LD defenseman will eventually become an issue. Parayko is still a solid defensive defenseman with a booming shot. We do lose a bit in the talent Chabot has. But the cap is cut by $1.5M, both have similar term on their deals. This also fixes Ottawa's dispertion on defense. 3LD 3RD. St Louis according to a buddy from work who really follows his Blues.... are looking for a big time defenseman on the backend. Parayko, Krug, Leddy, and Faulk are all 29 years+. Ottawa can afford to move on from Chabot and I'm a big Chabot fan I have his jersey. But Sanderson isn't going anywhere, Chychrun has been piling up the points, Chabot has lost hios spot on the PP.... So just reading the writing on the wall.

Someone mentioned Paraykjo might not waive his NTC then so be it... But if he is willing? I think Parayko and a 2nd rounder for Chabot will suffice. In saying that? One of Ottawa's 2 1st rounders would havge to be spent on an incoming impact defenseman for the future.

I don't agree with that.... That is the point for keeping a guy like Kubalik around. Ottawa has options... You can move Tarasenko to play with Stutzle and Tkachuk and move Giroux to play 2nd line center.

Tkachuk - Stutzle - Tarasenko
Greig - Pinto - Batheson
Joseph - Chartier - Kubalik
Kelly - Kastekic - MacEwen.

Those are lines I believe Ottawa can live with. Do remember Pinto has to be signed by Dec 1st or he cannot play in the NHL this season. Ottawa does not have to sign Pinto for exactly what Pinto wants. He's 2 years from arbitration and 2 years from being allowed to have an offer-sheet submitted. This is the drawback for burning a year off your ELC coming out of college. The teams have to stand to benefit as well. Pinto burning that year comes back to hurt him now. It's just business....

Blues don't have the cap for Chabot and unless he can play RHD, trading Parayko leaves a huge hole for us. We would have Leddy, Krug, Chabot, tucker, Scandella down the left side and only Faulk and Bortuzzo down the right

Very true.... not sure why I thought Leddy played both sides.... but was naturally a righty... So you're right it would have to be a situation where St Louis knows they aren't making the playoffs and bites the bullet to be exactly where Ottawa is right now. Ottawa has 3 LD (Chabot, Sanderson, Chychrun) one has to play his off-side which right now is Chabot. Hence why I proposed Chabot moving on because he seems to be the guy getting squeezed out. But he is still an elite defenseman, just losing in the numbers game

Keeping Chabot in Ottawa is a LOT LOT LOT more important for winning games than keeping Kubalik who would put modest numbers this season because no PP time and who would walk after the season because he is UFA and Ottawa won't have the cap space to re-sign him (unless that's what you would want to do with the 5-6 M$ in cap space Ottawa will have?)

When you have a 2 M$ problem (that shouldn't even exist, just sheer incompetence by the GM), you don't trade one of your core players to fix it.


That bottom-6 is terrible again.

Chartier is a 4th line player, that line wouldn't produce much offense.

The Chabot issue is to figure out the 3 LD playing in the top 4. Seems it's Chabot that is getting squeezed out. If they are removing Chabot from his offensive duties? He's not worth $8M. I'm a huge Chabot fan, but I am a Sens fan more. I would trade anyone and everyone to bring a cup to Ottawa. But if they are paying Chabot $8M to just be a 4th defenseman? Send him somewhere he will get his PP time, and be played in the role that got him to the NHL. His defense isn't good enough to pay him $8M to just take regular 5 vs 5 reps. Might as well add a guy like Parayko who can kill penalties, be a defensive presense to one of Sanderson or Chychrun.

Based on how Joesph is playing he should be good for 15 goals and Kubalik for 20. With Norris hurt Kubalik will get PP time to add some goals. There aren't many teams that have 3 centers that can play in the top 6. The teams that do are cup favourites.

Plus it would look more like this;

Tkachuk - Stutzle - Tarasenko
Greig - Giroux - Batherson
Joseph - Pinto- Kubalik
Chartier - Kastelic - MacEwen

That is still a formitable top 9

It's so cute to see all the folks who never watch Parayko play give the real 411. Blues pass.

- Hard to follow on everything... Chabot a 4th defenseman? I mean, he has the highest ice-time on the Sens and 12th most in the league so far...

- The point is having Sanderson-Chychrun-Chabot is a huge advantage Sens have over teams like the Oilers and the Leafs for example and should absolutely look to keep it.


- I can't see Kubalik scoring anything close to 20 if everyone is healthy. He just won't have the PP time to do it. 7 goals and 17 pts on the PP last season, his play on the PP is where he is the most efficient at the NHL level due to his shot.

- Norris is back and playing... who is the odd man out and why? Keep in mind that you can't pay Pinto by just sending Greig to the AHL.