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Créé par: jonh514

Équipe: 2023-24 Canadiens de Montréal

Date de création initiale: 14 oct. 2023

Publié: 14 oct. 2023

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If Houle does not know what his job is, then let's get rid of him and bring in someone who does.

No one cares about winning games in Laval. We want to see our players with future NHL pedigree get a chance to shine and earn a spot with the team.

On Offense that's:

Roy, Farrell, Heineman, Kidney, Mesar, Davidson

On Defense that's:

Mailloux, Trudeau, Norlinder, Struble

Those 10 players need to be in the lineup every single game if not injured.

No offense to Maillet & Keeper and their ilk, but if they are playing in place of players with NHL upside, the coaches are doing a disservice to the future Habs.

Rachats de contrats

Karl Alzner: 833 333 $

Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire

Joel Edmundson: 1 750 000 $ (50%)
Jeff Petry: 2 343 750 $ (50%)

Enfoui

Joel Armia: 2 250 000 $ (3 400 000 $)

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TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
24	83 500 000 $	71 477 916 $	1 170 000 $	4 267 500 $	12 022 084 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Caufield, Cole 7 850 000 $7 850 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 8	Suzuki, Nick 7 875 000 $7 875 000 $ C UFA - 7	Roy, Joshua 835 000 $835 000 $ (57 500 $$58K) AG, AD RFA - 3
Newhook, Alex 2 900 000 $2 900 000 $ C, AG RFA - 4	Dach, Kirby 3 362 500 $3 362 500 $ C, AD RFA - 3	Slafkovsky, Juraj 950 000 $950 000 $ (3 500 000 $$4M) AD, AG RFA - 2
Harvey-Pinard, Rafaël 1 100 000 $1 100 000 $ AG, AD RFA - 2	Monahan, Sean 1 985 000 $1 985 000 $ (15 000 $$15K) C, AG, AD UFA - 1	Anderson, Josh 5 500 000 $5 500 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC UFA - 4
Pezzetta, Michael 812 500 $812 500 $ AG, AD UFA - 2	Evans, Jake 1 700 000 $1 700 000 $ C UFA - 2	Ylönen, Jesse 775 000 $775 000 $ AD, AG RFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Matheson, Michael 4 875 000 $4 875 000 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 3	Savard, David 3 500 000 $3 500 000 $ DD UFA - 2	Allen, Jake 1 925 000 $1 925 000 $ G M-NTC UFA - 2
Harris, Jordan 1 400 000 $1 400 000 $ DG/DD RFA - 2	Barron, Justin 925 000 $925 000 $ (275 000 $$275K) DD RFA - 1	Montembeault, Samuel 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ G UFA - 1
Guhle, Kaiden 863 333 $863 333 $ (420 000 $$420K) DG/DD RFA - 2	Kovacevic, Johnathan 766 667 $766 667 $ DD UFA - 2	Primeau, Cayden 890 000 $890 000 $ G RFA - 2
Xhekaj, Arber 828 333 $828 333 $ DG/DD RFA - 1

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Pearson, Tanner 3 250 000 $3 250 000 $ AG UFA - 1	Wideman, Chris 762 500 $762 500 $ DD UFA - 1	Price, Carey 10 500 000 $10 500 000 $ G NMC UFA - 3
Gallagher, Brendan 6 500 000 $6 500 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC, NMC UFA - 4		Dvorak, Christian 4 450 000 $4 450 000 $ C M-NTC UFA - 2

14 oct. 2023 à 10 h 36

Dan_the_Man

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Fair rant.

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14 oct. 2023 à 10 h 38

palhal

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Just for the ill informed. Who is Houle?
By the way all those NHLers playing for the AHL Laval team, lost to Abbottsford last night.

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14 oct. 2023 à 11 h 7

LumberJacques

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Quoting: palhal

Just for the ill informed. Who is Houle?
By the way all those NHLers playing for the AHL Laval team, lost to Abbottsford last night.

Houle is the coach in Laval. Though I don't know who you're referring to by "NHLers playing for Laval". Outside of Armia there aren't many players with NHL experience in Laval.

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14 oct. 2023 à 11 h 9

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Quoting: palhal

Just for the ill informed. Who is Houle?
By the way all those NHLers playing for the AHL Laval team, lost to Abbottsford last night.

Houle is the Rocket coach. Some of those players were in the press gallery last night.

Yes they lost. It's ok if a team icing ~9 players playing their first AHL game loses though. It should not be about winning.

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14 oct. 2023 à 11 h 11

ricochetii

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Quoting: palhal

Just for the ill informed. Who is Houle?
By the way all those NHLers playing for the AHL Laval team, lost to Abbottsford last night.

Losing is fine as long as there is development. OP is saying the wrong players are getting the ice time, which serves no purpose when losing.

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14 oct. 2023 à 11 h 12

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Quoting: LumberJacques

Houle is the coach in Laval. Though I don't know who you're referring to by "NHLers playing for Laval". Outside of Armia there aren't many players with NHL experience in Laval.

Goalie who has never played an AHL-game acting as the starting goalie... He let in a bunch of soft goals.

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14 oct. 2023 à 11 h 14

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Quoting: palhal

Just for the ill informed. Who is Houle?
By the way all those NHLers playing for the AHL Laval team, lost to Abbottsford last night.

Laval head coach.

I think the point here was he didnt start a bunch of the young guys like Mesar and Davidson over some no name career AHL'ers last night (yes in the one and only game they played this year that they lost - thanks for clarifying that)

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14 oct. 2023 à 11 h 14

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Quoting: ricochetii

Losing is fine as long as there is development. OP is saying the wrong players are getting the ice time, which serves no purpose when losing.

And good ice time. Mailloux needs to be on PP #1 for example. Davidson was so effing good in the Habs preseason and now he's in the press gallery?

C'mon!

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14 oct. 2023 à 11 h 14

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Tell me you dont understand how the ahl works without telling me lol

14 oct. 2023 à 11 h 17

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Quoting: Black61

Tell me you dont understand how the ahl works without telling me lol

Why is that? What did the vets bring that was so amazing last night?

14 oct. 2023 à 11 h 26

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Quoting: jonh514

Why is that? What did the vets bring that was so amazing last night?

They arent going to dump every rookie into the first game of the year that wpuld be stupid.

They arent going to sit the leadership core of the team that wpuld also be stupid.

They also play again at 3pm they will bebswapping out several players.

This is all pretty standard in the ahl.

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14 oct. 2023 à 11 h 30

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Quoting: Black61

Not to mention they also have their own playoffs and championship to play for at the end of the year

14 oct. 2023 à 11 h 32

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The first week of the season is chaotic for all lineups. Gee, I wouldn't worry about development, deserving players will be getting ice time in Laval. I'm guessing some of those current AHLer in Laval will be seeing time in the NHL this season....and do quite well.

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14 oct. 2023 à 11 h 32

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Quoting: Campabee

Not to mention they also have their own playoffs and championship to play for at the end of the year

I think Houle is more interested in winning than he is in developing. He's thinking about his NHL coaching job down the road.

14 oct. 2023 à 11 h 35

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Quoting: Black61

Leadership comes in various shapes and sizes. Davidson did everything right in Seattle and was a huge part of that team. He was one of the best rookies in training camp. Many thought he made a case to make the Habs.

How is that not a part of your "leadership core". Tell me more about how Gallagher & Pearson are bringing value as veterans in MTL. Important veteran leadership right there....

14 oct. 2023 à 11 h 41

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Quoting: jonh514

I think Houle is more interested in winning than he is in developing. He's thinking about his NHL coaching job down the road.

The Calder cup would be great,but if winning it hinders 1 or 2 players development is it really worth it?

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14 oct. 2023 à 12 h 58

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Quoting: jonh514

Are you just being intentionally ignorant? You know thats not how anybof that works

And no "many people" didnt think davidson had a case to make the habs. He was a very early cut.

14 oct. 2023 à 13 h 38

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Quoting: Black61

Are you just being intentionally ignorant? You know thats not how anybof that works

And no "many people" didnt think davidson had a case to make the habs. He was a very early cut.

Roy and Heineman should be on the Habs in place of Gallagher & Pearson. If they did not have contracts they would not be in the NHL.

Veteran leadership is important in the playoffs. On a team where players are not punished for making mistakes when they make the right read but fail to execute and playoffs are not a requirement, veterans are not all that important.

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