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Quinn

Créé par: GhostGM92
Équipe: 2023-24 Devils du New Jersey
Date de création initiale: 5 oct. 2023
Publié: 5 oct. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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  1. Hellebuyck, Connor (1 800 000 $ retained)
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  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (NJD)
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (NJD)
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2026 (NJD)
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5 oct. 2023 à 6 h 22
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PDG over PDO
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lmfao no
5 oct. 2023 à 6 h 54
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Ouch that Vancouver trade is a bad one, for Vancouver that is.
5 oct. 2023 à 7 h 14
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Throw in Nemec and another 1st round pick for a starting point
5 oct. 2023 à 7 h 28
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Quoting: theleano1
lmfao no


Quoting: Reason
Ouch that Vancouver trade is a bad one, for Vancouver that is.


Quoting: Poogy
Throw in Nemec and another 1st round pick for a starting point


Y’all gotta be the thickest fan base lmfao. Why in the hell would the devils willingly retain 2mil on a player they just extended for 8 years? And y’all still don’t think that’s enough. I don’t want Quinn to begin with but y’all are clowns for real.
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5 oct. 2023 à 7 h 29
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Neither team does that but high comedy with the quote below..

Quoting: Poogy
Throw in Nemec and another 1st round pick for a starting point


Bahl's a top 4 shutdown dman and Timo is one of the best power forwards in the league, good for 40 goals and is top 10 in the league in analytics. On top of that you'd start the conversation with the 2nd or third best defensive prospect in the world who has been a pro since 16 and put up numbers in Liiga that nobody ever has and a first. No player has ever gotten a price like that and it's laughable
5 oct. 2023 à 7 h 53
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PDG over PDO
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Quoting: KDev
Y’all gotta be the thickest fan base lmfao. Why in the hell would the devils willingly retain 2mil on a player they just extended for 8 years? And y’all still don’t think that’s enough. I don’t want Quinn to begin with but y’all are clowns for real.


Because Quinn outscored Meier as a dman lmfao this is no where near close enough for a dman like Quinn, wingers like Meier are a dime a dozen in the league. Not many dmen in the leauge lime Quinn there's abouslety no reason for Vancouver to do this
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5 oct. 2023 à 8 h 5
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Quoting: theleano1
Because Quinn outscored Meier as a dman lmfao this is no where near close enough for a dman like Quinn, wingers like Meier are a dime a dozen in the league. Not many dmen in the leauge lime Quinn there's abouslety no reason for Vancouver to do this


And there’s even less of a reason for the Devils to do this. And no there aren’t many wingers like Meier. True goal scoring power forwards are way harder to find than a #1D. I’m not diminishing Quinn or his value or whether you think the offer isn’t close, I’m just saying the Devils wouldn’t even think to consider a horrendous trade like this in the first place for a player they already have 2 of (Dougie and Luke)
5 oct. 2023 à 9 h 26
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Quoting: KDev
Y’all gotta be the thickest fan base lmfao. Why in the hell would the devils willingly retain 2mil on a player they just extended for 8 years? And y’all still don’t think that’s enough. I don’t want Quinn to begin with but y’all are clowns for real.


Y’all the same fan base that said Ty Smith was just a step below Quinn a couple years ago lol. Talk about clowns, look in the mirror
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5 oct. 2023 à 9 h 41
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OP is not an NJD or VAN fan...they are just trying to make the two fan bases fight. Put him on the ignore list, just a troll.
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5 oct. 2023 à 10 h 6
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Quoting: NV94
Y’all the same fan base that said Ty Smith was just a step below Quinn a couple years ago lol. Talk about clowns, look in the mirror


Show me a receipt bud because I’m very confident not a single educated fan said this.
5 oct. 2023 à 10 h 16
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No team is ever gonna spend 3 1sts on a goalie
5 oct. 2023 à 10 h 37
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Quoting: DustinBrown1989
No team is ever gonna spend 3 1sts on a goalie


They are late first round picks, basically second round picks
5 oct. 2023 à 10 h 42
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do not Devil my ass
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Quoting: NV94
Y’all the same fan base that said Ty Smith was just a step below Quinn a couple years ago lol. Talk about clowns, look in the mirror

Quoting: KDev
Show me a receipt bud because I’m very confident not a single educated fan said this.

I'm guilty of such a take. The phrase being something like: the difference in value between Smith and Hughes is less than a 1st rd pick.

Of course everyone has a few bad or poorly aged takes and I'm sure that also goes for @NV94 no matter how much he tries to put himself above other fellow CapFriendly users.
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5 oct. 2023 à 10 h 56
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I Love J Boqvist
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Quoting: theleano1
Because Quinn outscored Meier as a dman lmfao this is no where near close enough for a dman like Quinn, wingers like Meier are a dime a dozen in the league. Not many dmen in the leauge lime Quinn there's abouslety no reason for Vancouver to do this


40 goals vs 7, let's not be disingenious here.
5 oct. 2023 à 10 h 57
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Quoting: Poogy
Throw in Nemec and another 1st round pick for a starting point


Let's start with the established meier value.

2 1sts+B prospect.
now another 2 1sts for 16 million dollars in retention
NOW you want in addition to bahl (probably low 2nd in trade value)
the 2nd best defensive prospect in hockey (probably another 2 1sts)
AND another 1st.

Lets get very real, quinn hughes is not worth 8 firsts of value.

If we estimate the monetary value of a 1st at 6 million (based on the monahan cap dump), that means Quinn would have to play at a 20 million dollar level over the life of his contract to make it worth it
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5 oct. 2023 à 11 h 1
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Its literally October and we still doing this "all brother need to be together BS" So trade Meier, the player the devils were missing for a player who cant even crack the NHL.... Good idea.
5 oct. 2023 à 11 h 4
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Quoting: dgibb10
Let's start with the established meier value.

2 1sts+B prospect.
now another 2 1sts for 16 million dollars in retention
NOW you want in addition to bahl (probably low 2nd in trade value)
the 2nd best defensive prospect in hockey (probably another 2 1sts)
AND another 1st.

Lets get very real, quinn hughes is not worth 8 firsts of value.

If we estimate the monetary value of a 1st at 6 million (based on the monahan cap dump), that means Quinn would have to play at a 20 million dollar level over the life of his contract to make it worth it


So you want the devils to be smaller and less physical? good idea, since all last season before meier we all said the devils are too small and not physical enough so good logic there bud
5 oct. 2023 à 11 h 29
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Devils decline both. Love Quinn, but NJD isn't trading Meier for a player we don't need. And Podkolzin doesn't really move the needle.

Hellebuyck to NJD is highly, highly unlikely. Fitzgerald has said he does not like to change goalies mid-season (in general) and has said he is rolling with Vanecek and Schmid (for this year). Hellebuyck is UFA this summer and is expecting Vasi money ($9.5m x max term), its a pretty safe bet that Hellebuyck to NJD won't happen then either.

(Also its a huuuuge overpay).
5 oct. 2023 à 11 h 32
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Quoting: TyeZerker
So you want the devils to be smaller and less physical? good idea, since all last season before meier we all said the devils are too small and not physical enough so good logic there bud


1. Size is overrated
2. dgibb didn't say any of those things
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5 oct. 2023 à 12 h 3
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Quoting: GhostGM92
They are late first round picks, basically second round picks


Doesn’t matter they aren’t
5 oct. 2023 à 12 h 3
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Quoting: NHLfan10506
Devils decline both. Love Quinn, but NJD isn't trading Meier for a player we don't need. And Podkolzin doesn't really move the needle.

Hellebuyck to NJD is highly, highly unlikely. Fitzgerald has said he does not like to change goalies mid-season (in general) and has said he is rolling with Vanecek and Schmid (for this year). Hellebuyck is UFA this summer and is expecting Vasi money ($9.5m x max term), its a pretty safe bet that Hellebuyck to NJD won't happen then either.

(Also its a huuuuge overpay).


The only deal I personally would do for Quinn would be built around dougie as the centerpiece a la tkachuk deal. But a trade like that makes no sense for the canucks because they aren't in the trying to win now mindset like the Flames were. Edit, also dougie wouldn't waive
5 oct. 2023 à 13 h 20
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(Sighs in exhaustion)

Another Quinn-to-NJD post. Let's be real for a moment;

1) This trade doesn't make sense for either team as-structured. NJD just extended Meier, so I assume they want to keep him. And as good as he is, VAN wouldn't take a winger back as the main piece for a #1 Dman.
2) The ONLY way VAN trades Quinn is in the final year of his current contract after demanding to be traded. Period. End of story. I can't stress to you how important he is to any potential success they might have.
3) Assuming #2 happens, any deal would need to be centered around a potential #1 Dman coming back to the Canucks, so maybe Nemec at that point fits the bill. But it would likely trigger another retool/rebuild phase in VAN.
5 oct. 2023 à 14 h 55
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Canucks decline. They are weak on defence and extremely strong on the wings, trading their captain and #1 d-man for another expensive winger makes less than zero sense. Devils also don't need another offensively-minded defenceman, and they won't ship out Meier retained after they just signed him to an 8-year extension.
5 oct. 2023 à 15 h 17
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Quoting: Tintin
I'm guilty of such a take. The phrase being something like: the difference in value between Smith and Hughes is less than a 1st rd pick.

Of course everyone has a few bad or poorly aged takes and I'm sure that also goes for NV94 no matter how much he tries to put himself above other fellow CapFriendly users.


I have not once had a bad take. There’s still time for Juolevi to turn it around and become a top 4 dman. /s
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5 oct. 2023 à 17 h 11
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Quoting: KDev
Y’all gotta be the thickest fan base lmfao. Why in the hell would the devils willingly retain 2mil on a player they just extended for 8 years? And y’all still don’t think that’s enough. I don’t want Quinn to begin with but y’all are clowns for real.


Ok buddy whatever you say….
 
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