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In my eyes and not a habs fan zegras trade im a preds fan btw

Créé par: AD88
Publié: 28 sept. 2023 à 16 h 24
Plafond salarial: 83 500 000 $
Journées à la saison: 185/186 (99%)
Détermination du registraire central: Cette transaction a rempli les différents critères exigés par le registraire central de la LNH.

Logo de Ducks d'AnaheimDucks d'Anaheim

DépartStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Fowler, CamDucks d'AnaheimLNH25%4 848 790 $011---0000--
Zegras, TrevorDucks d'AnaheimLNH-0 $011---0000--
Neighbours, JakeExempté du ballottageDucks d'AnaheimLNH-831 339 $011---0000--
Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (Logo de Ducks d'AnaheimANA)---001------
ArrivéeStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Nurse, DarnellOilers d'EdmontonLNH-9 200 269 $011---0000--
Faulk, JustinBlues de St-LouisLNH-6 465 054 $011---0000--
Neighbours, JakeExempté du ballottageBlues de St-LouisLNH-831 339 $011---0000--
Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (Logo de Oilers d'EdmontonEDM)---010------
VariationEspace sous le plafond salarialFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Initial16 635 833 $2241613912
Variation-10 816 533 $01001-1
Final5 819 300 $ (↓)2242 (↑)61310 (↑)11 (↓)000

Logo de Oilers d'EdmontonOilers d'Edmonton

DépartStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Fowler, CamOilers d'EdmontonLNH-4 848 790 $011---0000--
Nurse, DarnellOilers d'EdmontonLNH-9 200 269 $011---0000--
Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (Logo de Oilers d'EdmontonEDM)---010------
Choix de 3e ronde en 2025 (Logo de Oilers d'EdmontonEDM)---010------
Choix de 5e ronde en 2026 (Logo de Oilers d'EdmontonEDM)---001------
ArrivéeStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Fowler, CamDucks d'AnaheimLNH25%4 848 790 $011---0000--
Zegras, TrevorDucks d'AnaheimLNH-0 $011---0000--
Neighbours, JakeExempté du ballottageDucks d'AnaheimLNH-831 339 $011---0000--
Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (Logo de Ducks d'AnaheimANA)---001------
VariationEspace sous le plafond salarialFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Initial-390 792 $2243563411
Variation8 368 930 $1010-20
Final7 978 138 $ (↑)23 (↑)4357 (↑)32 (↓)11000

Logo de Blues de St-LouisBlues de St-Louis

DépartStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Faulk, JustinBlues de St-LouisLNH-6 465 054 $011---0000--
Neighbours, JakeExempté du ballottageBlues de St-LouisLNH-831 339 $011---0000--
ArrivéeStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Fowler, CamOilers d'EdmontonLNH-4 848 790 $011---0000--
Choix de 3e ronde en 2025 (Logo de Oilers d'EdmontonEDM)---010------
Choix de 5e ronde en 2026 (Logo de Oilers d'EdmontonEDM)---001------
VariationEspace sous le plafond salarialFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Initial293 571 $2348693810
Variation2 447 603 $-1-1-1011
Final2 741 174 $ (↑)22 (↓)47 (↓)68 (↓)39 (↑)11 (↑)000
28 sept. 2023 à 16 h 46
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Wait... so ducks give up Zegras and don't get one valuable asset back?
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28 sept. 2023 à 16 h 49
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Wait... so ducks give up Zegras and don't get one valuable asset back?


And take Nurse’s contract as well 🤡

Fowler says absolutely not as well
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28 sept. 2023 à 17 h 2
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the team that gets Nurse automatically loses the trade.
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28 sept. 2023 à 17 h 20
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Ehh no.
28 sept. 2023 à 18 h 8
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Quoting: GM69
Wait... so ducks give up Zegras and don't get one valuable asset back?


What? Not a huge fan of Jake Neighbors? 🤣🤣🤣
28 sept. 2023 à 18 h 27
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This does nothing for the blues at all. Why would they consider this trade?
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28 sept. 2023 à 19 h 27
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Quoting: penguinswin
What? Not a huge fan of Jake Neighbors? 🤣🤣🤣


In the proposal Neighbours doesn't even stay in Anaheim - in and out!

Also @Canucksfan88 you claim to be a Preds fan but your username says otherwise...
28 sept. 2023 à 19 h 40
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Quoting: RukaRadebe
In the proposal Neighbours doesn't even stay in Anaheim - in and out!

Also Canucksfan88 you claim to be a Preds fan but your username says otherwise...


Yeah and this trade proposal suggests he's actually an oiler fan in hiding.
28 sept. 2023 à 20 h 5
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Quoting: MoxNix
Yeah and this trade proposal suggests he's actually an oiler fan in hiding.


Oilers fan what are u talking about? Oilers would say no immediately will keep nurse
28 sept. 2023 à 23 h 21
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Quoting: penguinswin
What? Not a huge fan of Jake Neighbors? 🤣🤣🤣


Neighbors winds up in EDM based on this..........he's in and out or ANA for some reason.
This trade is brutal for everyone but EDM
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28 sept. 2023 à 23 h 22
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Oilers fan what are u talking about? Oilers would say no immediately will keep nurse


LOL
29 sept. 2023 à 0 h 46
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Quoting: Dutchies
Neighbors winds up in EDM based on this..........he's in and out or ANA for some reason.


It's payment for the retention on Fowler... They get Neighbors for 5 minutes.
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29 sept. 2023 à 14 h 44
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blues say no, then no again, and again. this is such an awful deal for the blues, giving up our best defenceman (as of rn), and one of our best young guys whos on the brink of a breakout season, for a different version of torey krug and a couple mid picks? nah
29 sept. 2023 à 17 h 15
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Quoting: Dutchies
Neighbors winds up in EDM based on this..........he's in and out or ANA for some reason.
This trade is brutal for everyone but EDM


Quoting: RukaRadebe
In the proposal Neighbours doesn't even stay in Anaheim - in and out!

Also @Canucksfan88 you claim to be a Preds fan but your username says otherwise...


Yeah my bad....I missed that part when I first read it🤦
2 oct. 2023 à 11 h 13
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Quoting: RukaRadebe
In the proposal Neighbours doesn't even stay in Anaheim - in and out!

Also Canucksfan88 you claim to be a Preds fan but your username says otherwise...


made the acc when i was leaving nucks but atleast neighbours pulled out
2 oct. 2023 à 11 h 16
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Wait... so ducks give up Zegras and don't get one valuable asset back?


They get cap space retain a new Defenseman with a lower cap and i genuinely meant to put neighbours on ducks i dont get how i messed up they also gain nurse whihc isnt ****ty but isnt good lose fowler as hes getting older and a bit of a waist of space and gain some younger guys and was sipposed to gain Neighbours
2 oct. 2023 à 11 h 17
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Quoting: MoxNix
Yeah and this trade proposal suggests he's actually an oiler fan in hiding.


I meant to have neighbours on the ducks i dont get where i went wrong :l
2 oct. 2023 à 11 h 41
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Quoting: AD88
They get cap space retain a new Defenseman with a lower cap and i genuinely meant to put neighbours on ducks i dont get how i messed up they also gain nurse whihc isnt ****ty but isnt good lose fowler as hes getting older and a bit of a waist of space and gain some younger guys and was sipposed to gain Neighbours


Nurse is probably one of the worst contracts in the entire NHL and doesn't fit the build of the ducks (he's 28). Yeah they are getting rid of Fowler, but getting Faulk who is the same age but more expensive.. Neighbors is a meh prospect that at most ends up being a contending teams 3rd/4th liner or rebuilding teams 2nd/3rd liner. Keep in mind what St Louis is giving up Neighbors for in the first place (not much).

If Edmonton wants to get Zegras there is no package that doesn't start with Bourgault and a 1st at bare minimum. Probably includes another better prospect or a young roster player as well. Not to mention, you will also have to pay a team a hefty fee (at least a 1st rounder) to take that Nurse contract and that is even IF he waives his NMC (which he has for the next 4 seasons, followed by only 10 teams he can be traded to for another 3 years after that).
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2 oct. 2023 à 14 h 12
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Nurse is probably one of the worst contracts in the entire NHL and doesn't fit the build of the ducks (he's 28). Yeah they are getting rid of Fowler, but getting Faulk who is the same age but more expensive.. Neighbors is a meh prospect that at most ends up being a contending teams 3rd/4th liner or rebuilding teams 2nd/3rd liner. Keep in mind what St Louis is giving up Neighbors for in the first place (not much).

If Edmonton wants to get Zegras there is no package that doesn't start with Bourgault and a 1st at bare minimum. Probably includes another better prospect or a young roster player as well. Not to mention, you will also have to pay a team a hefty fee (at least a 1st rounder) to take that Nurse contract and that is even IF he waives his NMC (which he has for the next 4 seasons, followed by only 10 teams he can be traded to for another 3 years after that).


fair enough i only make these to see the backlash from ass trades like so but i did mean to put neigbours on ducks and faulk to edm
2 oct. 2023 à 16 h 56
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Why exactly do the Blues do this? Neighbors will probably only top as a 2nd line guy but he plays a heavy game and is a heavy compete player, definitely not a whatever player to throw in. Regardless, swapping Faulk for Fowler makes even less sense. They're probably pretty similar in how they play the game, Fowler is probably a little worse defensively. This leaves the Blues with long-term contracts to Krug, Fowler and Leddy. None of which are capable of filling the void that has been troubling the defense and now there's a glaring hole at RD in which we have nobody in the system to fill. The depth chart then looks like this

Leddy Parayko
Fowler Bortuzzo
Krug Matthew Kessel
Tucker
Perunovich
Rosen

Of guys who can at least play in the NHL or are fringe guys. It has effectively made our defense worse, locked up the defense for the same term (1 year less now that i look at it), created a rather large hole with no close fills, and gave away a solid ELC player for a 3rd and a 5th and effectively what looks like 1.6m in cap savings.

Just curious for the reasoning for the Blues to entertain the swap.
 
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