Quoting: exo2769
I don't think OTT does this trade. a 1st round pick to dump Mathieu is a lot and doesn't match up with what Kyle Davidson's been willing to accept. I tend to think the Ott 2nd and Lassi should do the trick with a smaller player/prospect going back to OTT.
2nd + Thomson is way too much to "dump" a player that shouldn't even a cap dump. Dorion would be dumb to do that (it makes a lot more sense to trade either Kubalik or Brannstrom)
Thomson is NHL ready and seems quite improved. Joseph was a monster last night. And with the way he destroyed the QC 3v3 league this summer (25 goals in 7 games in a league where Letang, Suzuki, Dubois, Perron, etc play), the guy is hungry to prove people wrong.
Quoting: Snowhawk18
I will respectfully disagree, if you look at Davidson’s past deals he has asked for and gotten 2nd round picks for significantly less the Joseph’s $2.95m cap hit for three seasons with $9.3m in actual $$ owed. The most he has taken on is Zaitsev’s contract of $4.5m for 1 1/4 seasons (combined $5.63m) and received 2nd and 4th round picks. The fact that Joseph’s contract is a three year commitment at almost $3.7m more in actual $$ then Zaitsev should result in higher draft/prospect compensation being sent to the Hawks.
Don't want to be a debbie downer, but you're dreaming in technicolor
Joseph is NOWHERE NEAR the $9.3m cap dump you have been trying to push all summer. Zaitsev on the other hand was near full cap dump (minus replacement level player)
Quoting: Snowhawk18
I have said it before and I won’t be swayed off of this opinion, Ottawa would have to send a first round pick or 2 x 2nd round picks or Ridley Greig along with Joseph in order for me to accept the deal. I may also be talked into one 2nd round pick and Zack Ostapchuk.
Well, that's a completely delusional opinion, I don't even know what's the point of even mentioning it as it won't happen IRL. It would be like a poster saying "
I want Reichel/Nazar for taking your 3x3 contract, even if he's a quite decent bottom-6 forward". It's just ridiculous
Quoting: wojohawk
My counter would be Blackwell, the best 2nd round pick the Hawks hold, Sens 3rd for the worst 1st rounder the Sens end up with and one of Osapchuk or Jarventine with Thomson as a throw in (simply because he is likely to be waived and claimed by the Hawks anyways if they actually like him)
I would guess with the combo of the Sens/Detroit/Boston 1st round picks on the table, at least 1 likely is in the 20's and the net result of flipping for the Hawks 2nd will be moving a dozenish spots. Osapchuk/Jarventine are likely limited for oppurtunity with the winger depth the Sens have, but would be a nice add for the Hawks who are a little thin on LW prospects and could use some forwards with size as compliments to Bedard, Nazar, Moore, and even Reichel who are not exactly physically impossing.
JarvenTIE as well... forget it... You guys need to watch Sens games lol