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Would Chicago do it

Équipe: 2023-24 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 19 sept. 2023
Publié: 19 sept. 2023
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Jarnkrok for contract purposes, real value is the 1st. Does Chicago bite or would they rather just keep Raddysh?
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  1. Järnkrok, Calle
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19 sept. à 19 h 27
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They would consider it.

I pass though on the Leafs side. Raddysh only has one decent year and Jarnkrok's season was better than his. I understand this helps our cap a bit, but I wouldn't pay a first for Raddysh.
19 sept. à 19 h 29
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so the leafs give up a 1st to......save a million bucks and, at best, get the same player back. That's a hard no.
19 sept. à 19 h 34
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Solid offer, hawks definitely consider. Only hitch is CHI would probably prefer to wait til the TDL, let him put up points with bedard and then see if they can get a a team to give them a jeannot type return. I'd imagine theyll have at least a couple teams interested in him at the TDL regardless so theres no urgency for them to move him now.
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19 sept. à 19 h 56
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I wouldn’t
19 sept. à 20 h 44
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so the leafs give up a 1st to......save a million bucks and, at best, get the same player back. That's a hard no.


Hardly the "same player," IMO... Jarnkrok is who he is; everyone knows what he brings at age 31. For all we know, he could decline from here.

Raddysh is six years younger, bigger, taller, and costs less (at least for now). NO ONE KNOWS how high is ceiling is. He really came on after the TDL this last season - once he was given time.

EDM fans said the same thing about Yamamoto; i.e., that the Yamamoto was as "valuable" a piece as Raddysh; that he (Raddysh) wouldn't make the Oilers better in Yamamoto's place. Then, the Oilers gave Yamamoto away for nothing to the Wings, who promptly turned around and paid money to get him off their roster (bought him out).

For all we know, Raddysh could be on the same timeline as Patrick Sharp was. It took Sharpie a while, and look how he turned out. I'm not saying that Raddysh will turn into a player with Sharpie's production. All I'm saying is that NO ONE YET KNOWS what kind of hockey player Raddysh will become - not you, not me, no one. The Hawks intend to find out; he's gonna be given every opportunity to produce this year.

For that reason, the Hawks likely decline.
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19 sept. à 21 h 5
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Hardly the "same player," IMO... Jarnkrok is who he is; everyone knows what he brings at age 31. For all we know, he could decline from here.

Raddysh is six years younger, bigger, taller, and costs less (at least for now). NO ONE KNOWS how high is ceiling is. He really came on after the TDL this last season - once he was given time.

EDM fans said the same thing about Yamamoto; i.e., that the Yamamoto was as "valuable" a piece as Raddysh; that he (Raddysh) wouldn't make the Oilers better in Yamamoto's place. Then, the Oilers gave Yamamoto away for nothing to the Wings, who promptly turned around and paid money to get him off their roster (bought him out).

For all we know, Raddysh could be on the same timeline as Patrick Sharp was. It took Sharpie a while, and look how he turned out. I'm not saying that Raddysh will turn into a player with Sharpie's production. All I'm saying is that NO ONE YET KNOWS what kind of hockey player Raddysh will become - not you, not me, no one. The Hawks intend to find out; he's gonna be given every opportunity to produce this year.

For that reason, the Hawks likely decline.


except that by the time a player is 25 /26 they are basically who they are. They rarely develop much more, let alone significantly past that point. Not to mention Raddysh would be getting Jarnkrok's ice time and not the icetime he got in chicago, so about 2 mins less a game and no power play time so his production would drop for that reason alone. That's what I mean when I say at best he'd be the same player because that actually would mean he developed and produced more.
There is no way in hell chicago declines this trade with a 1st involved, hell they dont do it with anything the value of a 2nd coming their way. Luckily the leafs dont either, this doesnt make them better, has a solid chance of making them worse actually and it costs them a high pick for their troubles.
19 sept. à 22 h 30
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except that by the time a player is 25 /26 they are basically who they are. They rarely develop much more, let alone significantly past that point. Not to mention Raddysh would be getting Jarnkrok's ice time and not the icetime he got in chicago, so about 2 mins less a game and no power play time so his production would drop for that reason alone. That's what I mean when I say at best he'd be the same player because that actually would mean he developed and produced more.
There is no way in hell chicago declines this trade with a 1st involved, hell they dont do it with anything the value of a 2nd coming their way. Luckily the leafs dont either, this doesnt make them better, has a solid chance of making them worse actually and it costs them a high pick for their troubles.


Well, then it's for the best that he's not going to TOR now. Raddysh was buried on TBL's depth chart; never got time to develop. He finally got playing time with Chicago last season and started coming into his own. He's good at cleaning up garbage around the net and so could (IMO) be matched with Bedard and Hall on the first line. Those latter two will get the green light to often shoot the puck; Raddysh would get his chances to clean up.

We'll see. You may be right. Or, not. As I shared in my prior post, I expect the Hawks intend to find out what he can do with TOI and talented linemates, and go from there. Cheers!
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20 sept. à 0 h 19
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Yea this is a big no lul

Raddysh did good yes but its deceptive as look where he was playing

PP1 and second line RW

You think hes getting that in Toronto...NOPE

He will be on PP2 and 3rd or 4th line so the totals will go down making it not good

If im moving a 1st and Jarnkrok gimmie someone good
 
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