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Ottawa wants these 3 things in any trade for Shane Pinto

Créé par: sensonfire
Équipe: 2023-24 Sénateurs d'Ottawa
Date de création initiale: 18 sept. 2023
Publié: 18 sept. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
1) A 1st round pick


2) 1-2 young NHL ready forwards that can play in Ottawa's bottom 6, that have a cap hit of less than 2 million and that have some upside.

If unavailable, substitute for picks.


3) An overpayment because Ottawa doesn't want to trade him anywhere
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1800 000 $
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2183 500 000 $80 967 380 $0 $1 850 000 $2 532 620 $

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4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
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18 sept. 2023 à 19 h 31
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Is that what they want? Or what you think they want?
18 sept. 2023 à 19 h 33
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A 1st round pick doesn’t make them better this year. It needs to be a young player under 26 with top 6 potential
18 sept. 2023 à 19 h 33
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Habs offer Kidney Kapanen CGY 1st and half retained Dvorak vs Joseph and Pinto.
18 sept. 2023 à 19 h 34
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You won’t get any of that from anyone lmao the Sens have no leverage in these negotiations
18 sept. 2023 à 19 h 40
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You won’t get any of that from anyone lmao the Sens have no leverage in these negotiations


They can move Kubalik, Brannstrom , Forsberg or Joseph . They don’t need to move Pinto
18 sept. 2023 à 19 h 42
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A 1st round pick doesn’t make them better this year. It needs to be a young player under 26 with top 6 potential


That's basically what I meant in #2.

Who did you have in mind ?
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18 sept. 2023 à 19 h 44
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Habs offer Kidney Kapanen CGY 1st and half retained Dvorak vs Joseph and Pinto.


Please read the description again.
18 sept. 2023 à 19 h 44
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While I completely understand where you’re coming from. I can’t imagine many teams would line up to offer a 1st + a couple roster players who are cheap given how contract negotiations have supposedly panned out with Ottawa.

I’m not sure Pinto is the type of player you make those concessions for as well as pay out the ear at the same time. Not a bad player by any means. But not sure he pushes many teams over a hump.
18 sept. 2023 à 19 h 46
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Is that what they want? Or what you think they want?


What should Ottawa expect instead ?
18 sept. 2023 à 19 h 46
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While I completely understand where you’re coming from. I can’t imagine many teams would line up to offer a 1st + a couple roster players who are cheap given how contract negotiations have supposedly panned out with Ottawa.

I’m not sure Pinto is the type of player you make those concessions for as well as pay out the ear at the same time. Not a bad player by any means. But not sure he pushes many teams over a hump.


The Sens are convinced he will be a top 6 centre with elite defence.
18 sept. 2023 à 19 h 46
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What should Ottawa expect instead ?


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What should Ottawa expect instead ?


A 2nd and a mid player/prospect apparently lol
18 sept. 2023 à 19 h 47
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Quoting: GMDannyB
You won’t get any of that from anyone lmao the Sens have no leverage in these negotiations


Says the guy who thinks Laughton is worth like 3 firsts.
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18 sept. 2023 à 19 h 47
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Are you calling Elliotte Friedman a liar? He's gonna send his goons after you now. I'd watch my back if I were you. haha
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18 sept. 2023 à 19 h 48
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You won’t get any of that from anyone lmao the Sens have no leverage in these negotiations


I'm sorry we rejected you.
18 sept. 2023 à 19 h 52
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I'm sorry we rejected you.


Enjoy Laughton if the flyers trade goes through. It’s not gonna be TK or Frost line u guys are praying for lol
18 sept. 2023 à 19 h 53
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Quoting: sens65
Says the guy who thinks Laughton is worth like 3 firsts.


He’s worth a 1st and a 2nd because that’s what the St Louis GM offered for him it’s not rocket science for most people to understand
18 sept. 2023 à 19 h 53
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The Sens are convinced he will be a top 6 centre with elite defence.


I hope he does, and I’m sure they have a better viewing than I have had. I just have reservations. Rooting for the kid
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They can move Kubalik, Brannstrom , Forsberg or Joseph . They don’t need to move Pinto


Yeah I’m saying ur going to end up losing the trade in whoever u do move because they have no leverage. If the GM decides it’s Pinto he will probably lose the trade same goes for anyone else they decide to trade to make the room
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I hope he does, and I’m sure they have a better viewing than I have had. I just have reservations. Rooting for the kid


He had 20 goals and 35pts as a rookie. Why is it okay for Laf to keep struggling like he does but Pinto misses a whole year and comes back as a rookie and scores 20 goals and plays solid defence even with 2 bad defensive wingers but no one think he can play top 6
18 sept. 2023 à 19 h 55
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Are you calling Elliotte Friedman a liar? He's gonna send his goons after you now. I'd watch my back if I were you. haha


OH NO!!!!

WHAT AM I GOING TO DO ????
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Enjoy Laughton if the flyers trade goes through. It’s not gonna be TK or Frost line u guys are praying for lol


Taking Laughton would almost certainly mean the Flyers get Joseph though.
18 sept. 2023 à 19 h 58
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Are you calling Elliotte Friedman a liar? He's gonna send his goons after you now. I'd watch my back if I were you. haha


What did he say?
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Taking Laughton would almost certainly mean the Flyers get Joseph though.


Quoting: sensonfire
Taking Laughton would almost certainly mean the Flyers get Joseph though.


Pinto and Joseph for Laughton is still a massive L and very short sighted and even short sighted it’s still an L. Pinto will be a top 6 stud in 2 years and Laughton will be 31 and a 4th liner
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Pinto and Joseph for Laughton is still a massive L and very short sighted and even short sighted it’s still an L. Pinto will be a top 6 stud in 2 years and Laughton will be 31 and a 4th liner


Laughton's cap hit is too high.

Like I said, the cap hit on the player coming back needs to be less than 2 million.

Under a million would be the most ideal.
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Taking Laughton would almost certainly mean the Flyers get Joseph though.


Yeah that’s perfectly fine lol like I said expect Joseph and Pinto for Laughton and like a 2nd if the trade actually happens and that’s still a huge Flyers win
 
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