Ottawa declines that

Take out Matt Roy and still no.

Obviously lol. LA doesn't need a goalie

What are they gonna do with Pinto in your opinion?

Trade one of Brannstrom, Kubalik, or Joseph and sign him. Not that complicated.

"not that complicated" lol

Yes, not that complicated.

They do not. They have three goalies that finished with a league average SV% or better in the NHL last season and don't have the cap space for Ullmark, even at 50% retention. They're going to give their guys every opportunity to succeed before trading for a 4th. Any move for a goaltender will happen at the trade deadline, and it will be for an inexpensive guy like Kevin Lankinen, not Ullmark.

Trading away Matt Roy opens a bigger gap in the lineup than they currently have at goaltender, as they don't have another defensive RHD in the system to replace him. They're not going to run with two rookies on the right side with absolutely no redundancies.

The Kings have traded away two consecutive 1st round picks already. Trading away a 3rd would be a mistake. Last I checked, Jim Rutherford wasn't the GM of the Kings.

The Kings are not prepared to sell low on Alex Turcotte. He's not a bust prospect, he's just been injured for essentially his entire pro career thus far. He's waiver exempt for one more season, and the Kings intend to give him every minute possible to see if he can turn into the player that they hoped he would be when they drafted him. If he can stay healthy, there's no reason to suspect that he can't.

Finally, Ullmark has been an average goaltender his entire career until last season where he played behind arguably the best team in NHL history. Knowing the rollercoaster consistency of goaltenders from year-to-year, I'm not confident that last season wasn't an aberration and no one should give up a haul like this for him.

Exactly...

Agreed, valid points. The kings needing a goalie story is a bit overblown imo. Glad to see someone that agrees with that.

To start, not panic trade him for 2 unproven prospects.

No disrespect.

That's valid. Although considering they're already good at center (Stutzle, Norris, probably Grieg), would it be a bad idea to take a chance on a guy like Lysell who will likely be able to play middle 6 winger with an ELC? Would arguably help them more this year, and Pinto may be redundant for Ott down the road too. Beecher is a lock for a career 4c spot, has everything but offense.

I actually quite like Lysell, Pinto has been developed very well to this point and if Dorion loses him because of a cap fiasco he's for sure fired. So he needs to figure it out.

The offer is respectable but I just don't see them doing it. And sorry because I read your description after my initial comment.

That Lindholm trades looks brutal for the future of the B’s man

We’ll see. I’d suggest their goalie situation is among the bottom 8 of the league, but it’s worth seeing if Copley can be adequate considering their cap situation

These deals don’t seem realistic in general

They’ll dump another player before pinto unless someone overpays

Correct

To be fair at least this Pinto trade makes sense in theory.

Team is definitely worse in the moment and the value may be questionable but this would theoretically solve the problem and keep them under the cap which is more than I can say for 99% of the mock trades on here.

I think that Los Angeles declines for the reasons set forth by @tkecanuck341 in his second comment.

I don't think that Boston makes this offer because it's essentially a gamble that Turcotte turns into a middle-6 center. If he doesn't, this turns into a really bad trade for the Bruins, which becomes intergalactically bad if Roy doesn't re-up in Boston. There's too much downside risk here for the Bruins, in my opinion.

A no-risk, possible reward guy who makes sense for BOS: Jonathan Toews.

Sign him to 1yr/$1m, dump him on LTIR, and potentially get a very good 2c/3c option for the last 20 games of the season plus playoffs - IF he can go. Who knows, but what's the risk? When he plays, he's still effective.

Not a bad idea at all. And he could make the bruins a dark horse too, because the rest of the roster is pretty good.

He's obviously not a star anymore but the cost to add him would be nil and the upside is you roll into the playoffs with him centering your third line. Not bad. Of course he could just be finished too, who knows.

Sens won't trade Pinto. Anaheim won't take Forbort for free.

Roy isn't a LD, he's a UFA so the Bruins would lose him at the end of the year. If you trade Grzelcyk, do it for futures or someone who will be here next season. LA have Anderson and Gavrikov on the left side and I assume Bjornfot will get the last spot. They will probably look for a cheap D otherwise. As for Ullmark, we'll see if they want to make a move later.

This is too much for Lindholm especially for just a year. He'll likely get a contract that may not age well in his 30s as he'll be looking for 1C money when he isn't a real 1C (or will regress eventually).

We have enough money allocated to defense. We don’t need Roy. We need to take Forbort and Grz salary … and allocate to a forward.

The concept of a goalie trade to LA makes sense, but they seem resigned to go with a low cost goalie and hope for the best.

Sens already have the perfect 4th line Center in Mark Kastelic. Pinto is pretty much in Ottawa plans, they didn't want to trade him for Chychrun, they're not going to trade him like in this proposal.