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Were trading pinto Ok

Créé par: Jakebk
Équipe: 2023-24 Sénateurs d'Ottawa
Date de création initiale: 7 sept. 2023
Publié: 7 sept. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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Pinto is a gem. Mark could walk for nothing. I think Winnipeg entertains this. Maybe a pick or two going the other way but no first.
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RFAANSCAP HIT
1800 000 $
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  1. Scheifele, Mark (3 000 000 $ retained)
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  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (CBJ)
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7 sept. 2023 à 17 h 56
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Remove Joseph and Winnipeg might consider
7 sept. 2023 à 17 h 57
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Not likely Winnipeg makes that trade.
7 sept. 2023 à 18 h 0
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Rather keep Pinto than 1 year of Schiefele. Trade Kubalik for future considerations and we're set.
7 sept. 2023 à 18 h 2
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Quoting: GuyGuyGuy
Remove Joseph and Winnipeg might consider


There in lies the rub!
7 sept. 2023 à 18 h 3
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Quoting: gavinray
Rather keep Pinto than 1 year of Schiefele. Trade Kubalik for future considerations and we're set.


Don’t know if we can long term. If I am pinto I want a one year deal. Put up 20/20 on the third line and demand top six dollars.
7 sept. 2023 à 18 h 15
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Nope. It would take better adds to Pinto for Winnipeg to consider.
7 sept. 2023 à 18 h 34
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I’d take a few year of Joseph to get Pinto to locked up
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7 sept. 2023 à 18 h 43
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Neither team accepts those trades
7 sept. 2023 à 18 h 59
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Quoting: Jakebk
Don’t know if we can long term. If I am pinto I want a one year deal. Put up 20/20 on the third line and demand top six dollars.


Sure we can. Get rid of Joseph, replace Senko/Kubalik with Greig or other prospects that might be ready, trade Brannstrom, trade Forsberg if Sogaard is ready... Plenty of ways to make cap space. I'd rather have three good/great centers than paying for wingers. If Pinto proves he's worth it, then pay him

Core is locked up, no big ticket expenses on the cap for a while
7 sept. 2023 à 19 h 53
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Quoting: GuyGuyGuy
Remove Joseph and Winnipeg might consider


Quoting: BillytheKid3
Not likely Winnipeg makes that trade.

I have absolutely NO INTEREST in trading Pinto for Scheifele

Really not the type the Sens need

Look in the UFA market, there's going to be a LOT of more interesting options.

Also, Josh Norris was a million times better defensively in his 21 y/o rookie season than Scheifele will ever be. No chance Scheifele takes his spot at Center
7 sept. 2023 à 19 h 55
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Quoting: Xspyrit
I have absolutely NO INTEREST in trading Pinto for Scheifele

Really not the type the Sens need

Look in the UFA market, there's going to be a LOT of more interesting options.


Lol I forgot to add Sens decline
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7 sept. 2023 à 20 h 5
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Quoting: Windjammer
Nope. It would take better adds to Pinto for Winnipeg to consider.

Ottawa wouldn't want to trade Pinto for Chychrun, do you think they'd trade him for 30 y/o Scheifele and his 1 year left?
7 sept. 2023 à 20 h 28
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Ottawa wouldn't want to trade Pinto for Chychrun, do you think they'd trade him for 30 y/o Scheifele and his 1 year left?


I didn't make the offer. In just stated Pinto on his own isn't getting a 1C.
7 sept. 2023 à 20 h 36
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I didn't make the offer. In just stated Pinto on his own isn't getting a 1C.

A 30 y/o Center who is defensive liability and only has 1 year left before UFA and asking a raise that will lock him up into guarantied overpayment?

No thanks. It would pretty stupid to trade Pinto for a guy they don't even need when they wouldn't want to trade him for Chychrun
8 sept. 2023 à 0 h 15
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Quoting: Xspyrit
A 30 y/o Center who is defensive liability and only has 1 year left before UFA and asking a raise that will lock him up into guarantied overpayment?

No thanks. It would pretty stupid to trade Pinto for a guy they don't even need when they wouldn't want to trade him for Chychrun


Agree on Scheifele. Unless he lets the acquiring team know that he will sign for 4 years, his value is going to be depressed. My assumption is he will be trying to secure a 6 year or 7 year deal at $9m AAV to give up free agency.

Pinto is worth more than a first and prospect. Scheifele is likely to get the rental rate, which is around that.

I was worried about an offer sheet, but I think someone clarified that point and Pinto can’t be given an offer sheet. That said, a 21 man roster is hard to manage. You think you’d try to dump someone to get flexibility.
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