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Nylander

Créé par: JeffGorton
Équipe: 2023-24 Avalanche du Colorado
Date de création initiale: 5 sept. 2023
Publié: 5 sept. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
1.
COL
  1. Brodie, TJ (2 500 000 $ retained)
  2. Nylander, William
TOR
  1. Toews, Devon
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (COL)
2.
COL
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (CHI)
CHI
  1. Girard, Samuel
Détails additionnels:
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Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2024
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2025
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2026
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2283 500 000 $82 612 366 $637 500 $0 $887 634 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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825 000 $825 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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12 600 000 $12 600 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 8
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9 250 000 $9 250 000 $
AD, C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
AG, AD
NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 4
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
6 962 366 $6 962 366 $
AD
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
AG
UFA - 6
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
6 125 000 $6 125 000 $
AD, AG
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
825 000 $825 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
775 000 $775 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
1 050 000 $1 050 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
9 000 000 $9 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 4
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
3 850 000 $3 850 000 $
DG/DD
RFA - 2
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
775 000 $775 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
987 500 $987 500 $
DG/DD, AG
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
775 000 $775 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
AG, C
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
775 000 $775 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1

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5 sept. 2023 à 17 h 17
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Doesnt help the leafs at all really, any improvement over brodie is lost offensively and a 25+ pick doesnt cover the difference, especially with retention.
Toews is good, he aint that good
5 sept. 2023 à 17 h 19
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Toews for Nylander is fair (but I don’t think either team does it)
Brodie for a 1st is an overpay

Girard gets more than a 3rd
5 sept. 2023 à 17 h 28
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any acgm that has macdermid as a full time player pretty much means colorado has gotten weaker
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5 sept. 2023 à 17 h 36
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Avs need Toews more than Nylander, have the possibility of extending Toews under some circumstances, and do not under any circumstances for Nylander. This hasn't changed. Time is a flat circle. Avs decline again
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5 sept. 2023 à 18 h 41
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That's a gosh awful Girard trade for anywhere. And again, Nylander is not happening
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5 sept. 2023 à 19 h 40
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any acgm that has macdermid as a full time player pretty much means colorado has gotten weaker


He played a bunch of games 2 seasons ago, they could easily get a player at the deadline when they have more cap
5 sept. 2023 à 19 h 53
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Girard’s minimum value is hard established as a 1st and 2nd at the very least. Toews for Nylander is only a thing on Maple Leaf boards. Hard no. Over all this is horrendous.
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5 sept. 2023 à 19 h 58
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He played a bunch of games 2 seasons ago, they could easily get a player at the deadline when they have more cap


He played those games mostly as an injury replacement, which is what he should be on a contending team. He hasn't played over 60 games in a season ever and that's because he's a 7th D. He can't be in the opening night lineup.
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5 sept. 2023 à 19 h 59
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Quoting: ArakinSkywalker
any acgm that has macdermid as a full time player pretty much means colorado has gotten weaker


This should be an auto reply
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5 sept. 2023 à 20 h 1
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I'm going to play this from the Toronto angle: Why would they give up arguably their 2nd best defenseman for our 2nd best defenseman with retention AS WELL as Nylander and only get a late first in addition? This may be fair value on paper, but it's not going to make sense for either team. Also Girard is under contract for 3 more seasons at a pretty reasonable hit. He should get at least a decent prospect as well as a 3rd.
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5 sept. 2023 à 20 h 7
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He played a bunch of games 2 seasons ago, they could easily get a player at the deadline when they have more cap


Have you watched him play hockey? Guy can barely skate backwards. He’s awful.

He did play 58 games 2 years ago. He played less than 10 minutes 46 times. Including 16 games where he played less than 5 minutes. And then the Avs healthy scratched him for 20 straight games in the playoffs on the way to a cup win.
5 sept. 2023 à 20 h 8
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Have you watched him play hockey? Guy can barely skate backwards. He’s awful.

He did play 58 games 2 years ago. He played less than 10 minutes 46 times. Including 16 games where he played less than 5 minutes. And then the Avs healthy scratched him for 20 straight games in the playoffs on the way to a cup win.


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5 sept. 2023 à 21 h 25
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Quoting: turtlemountain
Have you watched him play hockey? Guy can barely skate backwards. He’s awful.

He did play 58 games 2 years ago. He played less than 10 minutes 46 times. Including 16 games where he played less than 5 minutes. And then the Avs healthy scratched him for 20 straight games in the playoffs on the way to a cup win.


Yeah they did that after they acquired Jack Johnson at the deadline. Playing him 56 games wont make them magically not be a playoff team. Then when their cap space goes up near the deadline, they go and acquire someone else
5 sept. 2023 à 22 h 26
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Yeah they did that after they acquired Jack Johnson at the deadline. Playing him 56 games wont make them magically not be a playoff team. Then when their cap space goes up near the deadline, they go and acquire someone else


This was 2021-2022 where Jack Johnson was on the opening night roster. The Avs actually trusted Jack Johnson to play an NHL role and gave him 16:45 a night, including heavy PK time. MacDermid averaged 7:24 a night and can’t play special teams.

For 2022-2023, MacDermid increased his ice time to a whopping 8:20 on average.

He might be the worst player in the NHL. I’d take just about any waiver claim over MacDermid.
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5 sept. 2023 à 22 h 29
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This was 2021-2022 where Jack Johnson was on the opening night roster. The Avs actually trusted Jack Johnson to play an NHL role and gave him 16:45 a night, including heavy PK time. MacDermid averaged 7:24 a night and can’t play special teams.

For 2022-2023, MacDermid increased his ice time to a whopping 8:20 on average.

He might be the worst player in the NHL. I’d take just about any waiver claim over MacDermid.


Even a few years older, JJ getting 13-15 a night is still WAY preferable to a nightly dose of Dermy. And I am one of those sick people that still defends us keeping Dermy as a reliable D/F replacement in a pinch. But yeah......NEVER as a regular player. Ever.
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6 sept. 2023 à 10 h 10
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