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Some other ideas I have explored recently

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Équipe: 2023-24 Sénateurs d'Ottawa
Date de création initiale: 31 août 2023
Publié: 31 août 2023
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Enough of that trade with Chicago.

Let's explore some other ideas I've had recently.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
21 800 000 $
1800 000 $
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1.
OTT
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2026 (COL)
COL
  1. Kubalik, Dominik
Détails additionnels:
Trade is contingent on Colorado finding a taker for Francouz.
2.
LAK
  1. Thomson, Lassi
Détails additionnels:
Change of scenery for two struggling prospects at risk of turning into busts.
3.
OTT
  1. Joseph, Pierre-Olivier
  2. Pitlick, Rem
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2026 (SJS)
Détails additionnels:
Ottawa gets Mathieu Joseph's brother and a son of a former Ottawa Senator.
PIT
  1. Brännström, Erik
Détails additionnels:
Brannstrom is somebody that could emulate his game from EK65.

Might work out.
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2383 500 000 $80 992 380 $0 $1 850 000 $2 507 620 $

Formation

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AD, C
NMC
UFA - 2
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8 350 000 $8 350 000 $
C
UFA - 8
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2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
AD
NTC
UFA - 1
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8 205 714 $8 205 714 $
AG
UFA - 5
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7 950 000 $7 950 000 $
C
UFA - 7
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4 975 000 $4 975 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 4
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863 333 $863 333 $
C, AG
RFA - 2
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1 800 000 $1 800 000 $
C
RFA - 1
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2 950 000 $2 950 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 3
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800 000 $800 000 $
AG
RFA - 1
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835 000 $835 000 $
C, AD
RFA - 2
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1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 5
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4 600 000 $4 600 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 5
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance1 850 000 $$2M)
DG
UFA - 1
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4 600 000 $4 600 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
G
UFA - 2
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825 000 $825 000 $
DG
RFA - 1
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1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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805 000 $805 000 $
DD
RFA - 2
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775 000 $775 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 3
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762 500 $762 500 $
AG
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31 août 2023 à 15 h 11
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Pens probably would accept this, seems fair from both sides..... Pens would just need to get a shutdown RHD to play with him
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31 août 2023 à 15 h 28
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Alex Turcotte is not a "struggling prospect." He's a quality prospect that hasn't been able to stay healthy. When he is healthy for more than two weeks at a time, he looks really good. His coaches describe him as a "difference maker" on the ice.

He's waiver exempt for another full season, and the Kings intend to give him every opportunity to develop into the player that they were hoping to get when they drafted him.
31 août 2023 à 15 h 43
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Why would you think that COL is even looking for "takers" on Frankie? The Avs won't resign him but they have no reason to move him this year.
31 août 2023 à 15 h 50
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Why would you think that COL is even looking for "takers" on Frankie? The Avs won't resign him but they have no reason to move him this year.


To make cap space for Kubalik.

Money spent on a backup goalie is better spent on more pressing needs.
31 août 2023 à 15 h 53
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Alex Turcotte is not a "struggling prospect." He's a quality prospect that hasn't been able to stay healthy. When he is healthy for more than two weeks at a time, he looks really good. His coaches describe him as a "difference maker" on the ice.

He's waiver exempt for another full season, and the Kings intend to give him every opportunity to develop into the player that they were hoping to get when they drafted him.


I would say he’s a little of both, but I certainly wouldn’t even consider dealing him for Lassi Thompson. My guess is Ottawa take Akil Thomas or Tyler Madden, but I’m not sure why LA does this
31 août 2023 à 15 h 53
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Alex Turcotte is not a "struggling prospect." He's a quality prospect that hasn't been able to stay healthy. When he is healthy for more than two weeks at a time, he looks really good. His coaches describe him as a "difference maker" on the ice.

He's waiver exempt for another full season, and the Kings intend to give him every opportunity to develop into the player that they were hoping to get when they drafted him.


Hope springs eternal.
31 août 2023 à 15 h 57
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I would say he’s a little of both, but I certainly wouldn’t even consider dealing him for Lassi Thompson. My guess is Ottawa take Akil Thomas or Tyler Madden, but I’m not sure why LA does this


You guessed wrong.
31 août 2023 à 15 h 59
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To make cap space for Kubalik.

Money spent on a backup goalie is better spent on more pressing needs.


What pressing need does Kubalik fill?
Avs pass unless its for a 4th at the tdl.
31 août 2023 à 16 h 4
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What pressing need does Kubalik fill?
Avs pass unless its for a 4th at the tdl.


Goal scoring/depth at forward

Drouin in the Top 9 = Disaster

You paid a 2nd for Lars Eller at the tdl ...
31 août 2023 à 16 h 6
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Why would the Avs be thinking of moving on from a capable back up with nobody else in the system ready to take on the back up role? If Georgie goes down or when he needs a rest Frankie steps in admirably (as he did for Kuemper in the Cup run). That's a terrible idea for Colorado.
31 août 2023 à 16 h 7
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Goal scoring/depth at forward

Drouin in the Top 9 = Disaster

You paid a 2nd for Lars Eller ...


Lars was a swiss army knife and center. Kubalik is basically Namestinkov. And for that, you get a 4th. 3rd line rw is not worth a 2nd to address.
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31 août 2023 à 16 h 15
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To make cap space for Kubalik.

Money spent on a backup goalie is better spent on more pressing needs.


Don't worry once your team starts making playoff runs you'll see how much you need a capable back up in playoffs. look at the last two Stanely cups won, depth goaltending has been huge.
31 août 2023 à 16 h 17
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Lars was a swiss army knife and center. Kubalik is basically Namestinkov. And for that, you get a 4th. 3rd line rw is not worth a 2nd to address.


Lars was an aging 4th line center on a struggling Capitals team that you only liked because the Avs acquired him for about 2 months.

There's something called the endowment effect.

Look it up.

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/e/endowment-effect.asp



And unlike Namestnikov and Eller, the Avs are getting Kubalik for a full season.

And unlike Namestnikov and Eller, Kubalik can score goals.
31 août 2023 à 16 h 20
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Don't worry once your team starts making playoff runs you'll see how much you need a capable back up in playoffs. look at the last two Stanely cups won, depth goaltending has been huge.


Starting goalies during the playoffs are supposed to go the distance.

Until their team wins the Cup or is eliminated.

If the Avs want to spend an extra 2 million so Francouz can sit on a bench, then that's just dandy.
31 août 2023 à 16 h 22
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Lars was an aging 4th line center on a struggling Capitals team that you only liked because the Avs acquired him for about 2 months.

There's something called the endowment effect.

Look it up.

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/e/endowment-effect.asp



And unlike Namestnikov and Eller, the Avs are getting Kubalik for a full season.

And unlike Namestnikov and Eller, Kubalik can score goals.


Wrong, but good try there buddy. Lars filled a need, kubalik doesn't. There was a reason the Wings forced him on you guys.

Why would you want to move him if he scores so well, you guys are out of your rebuild, no?
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31 août 2023 à 16 h 23
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Why would the Avs be thinking of moving on from a capable back up with nobody else in the system ready to take on the back up role? If Georgie goes down or when he needs a rest Frankie steps in admirably (as he did for Kuemper in the Cup run). That's a terrible idea for Colorado.


If you prefer to spend 2 million so Francouz can sit on a bench, then that's just dandy.
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31 août 2023 à 16 h 23
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Starting goalies during the playoffs are supposed to go the distance.

Until their team wins the Cup or is eliminated.

If the Avs want to spend an extra 2 million so Francouz can sit on a bench, then that's just dandy.


This is fun, how did those runs with Andy end up? Avs run with Franky got us a cup. Il just sip my tea
31 août 2023 à 16 h 24
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Hope springs eternal.


Sure, but there's no reason for them to do this trade now. As it stands, he's slated to be the 1C in Ontario for the upcoming AHL season. The Kings are excited to see what he can do.

Next summer, you might be able to get Turcotte for free off waivers if he doesn't pan out.
31 août 2023 à 16 h 25
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Wrong, but good try there buddy. Lars filled a need, kubalik doesn't. There was a reason the Wings forced him on you guys.

Why would you want to move him if he scores so well, you guys are out of your rebuild, no?


We just signed Tarasenko, making Kubalik redundant.

And we also need to make room for Pinto.

I appreciate your concern.
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31 août 2023 à 16 h 26
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We just signed Tarasenko, making Kubalik redundant.

And we also need to make room for Pinto.

I appreciate your concern.


Should have about 4.9m freeing up shortly
Edit:4.975m
31 août 2023 à 16 h 30
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This is fun, how did those runs with Andy end up? Avs run with Franky got us a cup. Il just sip my tea


Avs didn't win the Cup because of goaltending.

They won it because of Landeskog/MacKinnon/Rantanen + Kadri + Toews/Makar.
31 août 2023 à 16 h 32
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Avs didn't win the Cup because of goaltending.

They won it because of Landeskog/MacKinnon/Rantanen + Kadri + Toews/Makar.


Sure thing boo
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31 août 2023 à 18 h 3
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Just curious. Do Ottawa fans believe Thompson is going to develop into a top 6 defenseman? I realize he was a first round pick, but I haven’t been super impressed with him at the AHL level.
31 août 2023 à 18 h 4
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All good, just wondering what Kings fans would think of this, they might still have hopes for Turcotte
31 août 2023 à 18 h 28
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Just curious. Do Ottawa fans believe Thompson is going to develop into a top 6 defenseman? I realize he was a first round pick, but I haven’t been super impressed with him at the AHL level.


I, for one, am rather skeptical about Thomson.
 
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