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Créé par: Coachchippy
Équipe: 2023-24 Bruins de Boston
Date de création initiale: 17 août 2023
Publié: 17 août 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
3900 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
22 500 000 $
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BOS
  1. McTavish, Mason
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (SJS)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (ANA)
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  1. Grzelcyk, Matt
  2. van Riemsdyk, James
  3. Zacha, Pavel
  4. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (SJS)
  5. Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (ANA)
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  1. Beecher, John
  2. Hall, Curtis
  3. Marchand, Brad
  4. Toporowski, Luke
  5. Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (BOS)
  6. Choix de 3e ronde en 2025 (BOS)
  7. Choix de 1e ronde en 2026 (BOS)
  8. Choix de 2e ronde en 2026 (BOS)
  9. Choix de 3e ronde en 2026 (BOS)
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17 août 2023 à 23 h 36
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I would say this is a rebuild. also did not know Dellandrea is that highly valued. Underrated? 1000%. worth Zacha+ much more? Don't think so
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17 août 2023 à 23 h 37
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17 août 2023 à 23 h 40
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Quoting: Leafs_Fan3416
I would say this is a rebuild. also did not know Dellandrea is that highly valued. Underrated? 1000%. worth Zacha+ much more? Don't think so


To me a rebuild is tearing the entire thing down for picks and building a new foundation through those guys. Which would probably mean getting rid of Pasta, Coyle, McAvoy, etc.
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17 août 2023 à 23 h 40
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To me a rebuild is tearing the entire thing down for picks and building a new foundation through those guys. Which would probably mean getting rid of Pasta, Coyle, McAvoy, etc.


Fair enough but this is as close as you can get to a rebuild without actually rebuilding
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17 août 2023 à 23 h 55
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McTavish > Ullmark, Plus Ullmark doesn't waive for the worst team in the NHL.

Outside of Marchand that garbage doesn't come close to getting you Victor Hedman.
18 août 2023 à 0 h 3
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McTavish > Ullmark, Plus Ullmark doesn't waive for the worst team in the NHL.

Outside of Marchand that garbage doesn't come close to getting you Victor Hedman.


I disagree. I think McTavish and Ullmark have equal value especially after Ullmark's ridiculous performance last season. And the Ducks are doing fine on center depth they don't need him. And I doubt Anaheim would be on Ullmark's no-trade list. It's sunny Orange County California and there's a ton of young talent, they're only going to get better.

5 picks is not garbage for Hedman. Tampa Bay needs them desperately after what they pulled bringing in Jeannot
18 août 2023 à 1 h 4
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Quoting: Coachchippy
I disagree. I think McTavish and Ullmark have equal value especially after Ullmark's ridiculous performance last season. And the Ducks are doing fine on center depth they don't need him. And I doubt Anaheim would be on Ullmark's no-trade list. It's sunny Orange County California and there's a ton of young talent, they're only going to get better.

5 picks is not garbage for Hedman. Tampa Bay needs them desperately after what they pulled bringing in Jeannot


Stop with needs them desperately BULLS*** and there certainly not trading Hedman as Draft bait🙄 that is truly the most ridiculous argument I've read here. Don't want Marchand anywhere near this Team the rest is a whole lot of quantity and almost no quality. Besides it's Hagel too . TB counters McAvoy and Frederick for a 26 & 27 7first a2,3,4 ABB Cole Koepke Josh Archibald
18 août 2023 à 4 h 23
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Quoting: Coachchippy
I disagree. I think McTavish and Ullmark have equal value especially after Ullmark's ridiculous performance last season. And the Ducks are doing fine on center depth they don't need him. And I doubt Anaheim would be on Ullmark's no-trade list. It's sunny Orange County California and there's a ton of young talent, they're only going to get better.

5 picks is not garbage for Hedman. Tampa Bay needs them desperately after what they pulled bringing in Jeannot


Then you've taken leave of your senses. Under no circumstances would Anaheim swap McTavish for Ullmark straight up, let alone add picks. Got too many centers? Fine, move someone to the wing, don't trade for a goalie who will be past his prime when our window opens. Too much center depth is the best problem to have.

Yeah, Anaheim has a surplus of young talent at center, and we COULD trade one of them away, but unless their name is Seidee or Jiricek, it's not happening.
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18 août 2023 à 6 h 37
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All I can say about the Habs trade is get real! Montreal isn't giving up Slaf for Savard 2.0 and Dvorak 2.0! Habs counter with Allen and Gallagher for Swayman
18 août 2023 à 8 h 6
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McTavish is worth a lot more than Ullmark there guy

This offer ruins the Ducks Bruins trade relationship
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18 août 2023 à 8 h 24
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Dude, I'm sorry but your valuations are all over the place.

Ullmark is great, but a young 1C is worth far more than any goalie. And WTF is that Dellandrea deal? Every piece coming from BOS is worth more than him. MTL easily declines, and both sides would be better off not making the Tampa deal.
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18 août 2023 à 10 h 0
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Quoting: Boltsradynasty
Stop with needs them desperately BULLS*** and there certainly not trading Hedman as Draft bait🙄 that is truly the most ridiculous argument I've read here. Don't want Marchand anywhere near this Team the rest is a whole lot of quantity and almost no quality. Besides it's Hagel too . TB counters McAvoy and Frederick for a 26 & 27 7first a2,3,4 ABB Cole Koepke Josh Archibald


It doesn't concern you to not have a single first round pick for the next 3 years? Stamkos is almost 34. Hedman is 32. Kucherov is 30. You don't have much longer with your core before people start massively declining. And there's no shame in that at all, after so many deep playoff runs and bringing home 2 Stanley Cups. They did what had to be done. But you have to start planning for the future beyond the next couple of years. Acquiring picks is the way to do that
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Then you've taken leave of your senses. Under no circumstances would Anaheim swap McTavish for Ullmark straight up, let alone add picks. Got too many centers? Fine, move someone to the wing, don't trade for a goalie who will be past his prime when our window opens. Too much center depth is the best problem to have.

Yeah, Anaheim has a surplus of young talent at center, and we COULD trade one of them away, but unless their name is Seidee or Jiricek, it's not happening.


But the entire point is that Anaheim's window can open SOON, even maybe a year from now, if they bring in some talent from other teams. It was messed up that the league screwed you out of Bedard. But Anaheim currently has MUCH better talent than the other teams who were in the Bedard sweepstakes, like Chicago or SJ for example.
18 août 2023 à 10 h 26
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It doesn't concern you to not have a single first round pick for the next 3 years? Stamkos is almost 34. Hedman is 32. Kucherov is 30. You don't have much longer with your core before people start massively declining. And there's no shame in that at all, after so many deep playoff runs and bringing home 2 Stanley Cups. They did what had to be done. But you have to start planning for the future beyond the next couple of years. Acquiring picks is the way to do that


With the core part duex of Sergachev, Cernak Perbix Point, Cirelli Paul, Hagel and still only 30 yo Vasilevskiy this team is definitely in good shape next 4-5 years and if cap goes up as expected they'll be more than fine
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18 août 2023 à 10 h 28
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It doesn't concern you to not have a single first round pick for the next 3 years? Stamkos is almost 34. Hedman is 32. Kucherov is 30. You don't have much longer with your core before people start massively declining. And there's no shame in that at all, after so many deep playoff runs and bringing home 2 Stanley Cups. They did what had to be done. But you have to start planning for the future beyond the next couple of years. Acquiring picks is the way to do that


This is a bit hypocritical coming from a post on BOS, who has succeeded with elite players working well into their mid-30's. TBL is fine. You don't trade off star players in their early 30s for picks. You keep trying to win until they have nothing left.
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18 août 2023 à 10 h 31
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This is a bit hypocritical coming from a post on BOS, who has succeeded with elite players working well into their mid-30's. TBL is fine. You don't trade off star players in their early 30s for picks. You keep trying to win until they have nothing left.


Yeah ,but TB has been far more successful with their core
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18 août 2023 à 10 h 37
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But the entire point is that Anaheim's window can open SOON, even maybe a year from now, if they bring in some talent from other teams. It was messed up that the league screwed you out of Bedard. But Anaheim currently has MUCH better talent than the other teams who were in the Bedard sweepstakes, like Chicago or SJ for example.


Anaheim is still 3-4 years off from having any window open. Their young dmen need time to develop. I'd say two more seasons, then they'll be looking to add some more reliable middle-6 wings and a new goaltender.
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18 août 2023 à 10 h 41
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I disagree. I think McTavish and Ullmark have equal value especially after Ullmark's ridiculous performance last season. And the Ducks are doing fine on center depth they don't need him. And I doubt Anaheim would be on Ullmark's no-trade list. It's sunny Orange County California and there's a ton of young talent, they're only going to get better.

5 picks is not garbage for Hedman. Tampa Bay needs them desperately after what they pulled bringing in Jeannot


I’m sorry but this take is so far off. McTavish was a top 2 pick in his draft, and I’d redone would still be a top 4 pick at worst. Nooooo chance Ullmark touches that value, or remotely close to it

Also, Anaheim is deep at goalie with Gibson and a top 5 NHL goalie prospect on the cusp of being a full time NHLer. McTavish plays great on the wing as well. This deal makes zero sense for ANA and isn’t close to market value. You will not find a single fan outside of Boston who thinks this trade is close to realistic. And honestly good luck finding any in BOS
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18 août 2023 à 11 h 18
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But the entire point is that Anaheim's window can open SOON, even maybe a year from now, if they bring in some talent from other teams. It was messed up that the league screwed you out of Bedard. But Anaheim currently has MUCH better talent than the other teams who were in the Bedard sweepstakes, like Chicago or SJ for example.


Our holes in the roster are RW and RHD, Ullmark isn't going to change our window if we let him get shelled every night.

So if Boston wants to make Pastranak or McAvoy available (they won't) McTavish could be made available, but short of that, I can't see us giving up a young 1C who was in the Calder conversation this season.
18 août 2023 à 11 h 36
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A former 1st overall pick from 1 year ago for a #4 d man and a bottom 6 forward?
18 août 2023 à 12 h 36
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Is there no salary cap on fantasy island?? 🤔
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18 août 2023 à 16 h 2
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Bro said i want the 18 yo first overall pick for brendan carlo and... (check notes) conor geekie
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Bro said i want the 18 yo first overall pick for brendan carlo and... (check notes) conor geekie


Isn't he considered a huge bust by the Montreal fanbase? Not milk toast Lafreniere level, but like considered to actually suck?
18 août 2023 à 18 h 33
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Isn't he considered a huge bust by the Montreal fanbase? Not milk toast Lafreniere level, but like considered to actually suck?


I'm not sure in what universe you live but in the real world he was and still is the best prospect from the 2022 draft
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