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Équipe: 2023-24 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 24 juill. 2023
Publié: 24 juill. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
UFAANSCAP HIT
1800 000 $
1800 000 $
22 000 000 $
Transactions
1.
2.
TOR
  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (DAL)
3.
CBJ
  1. Liljegren, Timothy
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (DAL)
4.
TOR
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2026 (COL)
COL
  1. Järnkrok, Calle
  2. Choix de 5e ronde en 2024 (TOR)
  3. Choix de 5e ronde en 2024 (CHI)
Rachats de contrats
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2024
Logo de TOR
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Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de OTT
2025
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de CHI
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
2026
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Logo de COL
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2083 500 000 $76 384 917 $0 $0 $7 115 083 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
925 000 $925 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
11 640 250 $11 640 250 $
C
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
C, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
11 000 000 $11 000 000 $
C, AG
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
10 903 000 $10 903 000 $
AD
NMC
UFA - 2
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
AG
RFA - 1
800 000 $800 000 $
C
UFA
Logo de Flames de Calgary
2 300 000 $2 300 000 $
AG, AD, C
RFA - 1
800 000 $800 000 $
AD, AG
UFA
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
2 400 000 $2 400 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
1 350 000 $1 350 000 $
AD
UFA - 3
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
7 500 000 $7 500 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo de Flames de Calgary
1 125 000 $1 125 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
3 550 000 $3 550 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
1 237 500 $1 237 500 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
766 667 $766 667 $
G
RFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
4 150 000 $4 150 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
5 625 000 $5 625 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 1

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24 juill. 2023 à 5 h 31
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Remove Brodie and Tanev from the deal. Calgary only has so much cap space and no reason to downgrade
24 juill. 2023 à 5 h 36
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Remove Brodie and Tanev from the deal. Calgary only has so much cap space and no reason to downgrade


That's the cost for this one, whether you decide to accept is up to you
24 juill. 2023 à 5 h 49
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Quoting: Affectionate_Side_64
That's the cost for this one, whether you decide to accept is up to you


Seems pointless to demand. The difference between Brodie and Tanev is pretty much just the cap hit. Otherwise they are nearly identical in what they provide (Tanev slightly better). If the cap doesn't work for Calgary then Calgary would decline. I would rather add a mid round pick than be forced to make more trades to be cap compliant
24 juill. 2023 à 5 h 54
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Seems pointless to demand. The difference between Brodie and Tanev is pretty much just the cap hit. Otherwise they are nearly identical in what they provide (Tanev slightly better). If the cap doesn't work for Calgary then Calgary would decline. I would rather add a mid round pick than be forced to make more trades to be cap compliant


You suggested Hanifin + Dube for Nylander + Timmins to me. If you're willing to make that trade and acknowledge the only difference between Brodie and Tanev is the $0.5 mil cap hit, then how is a $0.5 mil cap hit enough to change your mind from a trade you first offered?
24 juill. 2023 à 6 h 7
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Liligren > Peeke, no reason for leafs to make this move & absolutely no reason they add 🤦🏻
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24 juill. 2023 à 6 h 14
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Quoting: MitchJr
Liligren > Peeke, no reason for leafs to make this move & absolutely no reason they add 🤦🏻


Lily is hugely overrated by Leafs fans. Their value is probably about even but I added the 4th to avoid argument from CBJ fans
24 juill. 2023 à 6 h 15
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Quoting: Affectionate_Side_64
Lily is hugely overrated by Leafs fans. Their value is probably about even but I added the 4th to avoid argument from CBJ fans


Liligren > Peeke
24 juill. 2023 à 6 h 16
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Quoting: MitchJr
Liligren > Peeke


Agree to disagree.
24 juill. 2023 à 6 h 30
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Quoting: Affectionate_Side_64
You suggested Hanifin + Dube for Nylander + Timmins to me. If you're willing to make that trade and acknowledge the only difference between Brodie and Tanev is the $0.5 mil cap hit, then how is a $0.5 mil cap hit enough to change your mind from a trade you first offered?


A few reasons.
1. Personal preference
2. 500k is not nothing, you've constructed your team above with 27.5k extra cap space and no scratches. That should be proof enough
3. Too much change is not a good thing, this trade is already moving out at least 1 core player from both sides. Making it 2 core players leads to lack of chemistry (that was a huge reason in Calgary's struggles last year and with the return of Kylington Tanev is at least be a guy who he has already proven to work well with)
24 juill. 2023 à 6 h 33
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
A few reasons.
1. Personal preference
2. 500k is not nothing, you've constructed your team above with 27.5k extra cap space and no scratches. That should be proof enough
3. Too much change is not a good thing, this trade is already moving out at least 1 core player from both sides. Making it 2 core players leads to lack of chemistry (that was a huge reason in Calgary's struggles last year and with the return of Kylington Tanev is at least be a guy who he has already proven to work well with)


Fair enough
24 juill. 2023 à 8 h 11
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Columbus isn't moving out RD just to bring another one in. Peeke is probably available, but not for this deal. As early as this coming New Years, Jiricek is pushing for a spot, and Liljegren isn't playing over him or Severson in the lineup. In those terms, Peeke is likely to stay and play third pair, pushing Gudbranson to seventh D where he belongs.
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24 juill. 2023 à 9 h 40
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Quoting: MitchJr
Liligren > Peeke


Quoting: Affectionate_Side_64
Agree to disagree.


Liljegren > Peeke.

If we're looking at pure value the Jackets should accept, but it doesn't make sense to move out a RD just to bring back a RD. Peeke for a 2nd straight up would probably get it done, or Peeke + 2024 2nd for 2024 1st since Toronto doesn't have a 2nd. CBJ need quality over quantity, so I couldn't see something like Peeke for a 3rd and a 4th working.
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24 juill. 2023 à 9 h 42
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Pretty fair offer for the Avs but just like Calgary they are up against the cap and would have to find another move to make this one work.
24 juill. 2023 à 16 h 39
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Columbus isn't moving out RD just to bring another one in. Peeke is probably available, but not for this deal. As early as this coming New Years, Jiricek is pushing for a spot, and Liljegren isn't playing over him or Severson in the lineup. In those terms, Peeke is likely to stay and play third pair, pushing Gudbranson to seventh D where he belongs.


I was just too lazy to go through another 3 team trade.
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