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The only trade for nylander Ive seen worth it

Créé par: Leafs_Fan_1986
Équipe: 2023-24 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 17 juill. 2023
Publié: 17 juill. 2023
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I do think this solves so many problems.
1. Long term answer as our 2c behind Mathews
2. Cap relief short term
3. Versatile D so timmins and gio can both play through the season keeping gio fresh for playoffs
4. Muzzin can come off LTIR for cap accumulation
5. Nylander signs and extension
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  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (SEA)
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17 juill. 2023 à 21 h 59
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Lol. Seattle doesn't even pick up the phone for that one.
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17 juill. 2023 à 22 h 1
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Only one problem. Ronnie Francis isn't a complete dolt.
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17 juill. 2023 à 22 h 5
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Gotta love how any non leafs fan thinks nylander is worth 1/4 of tkachuk last year ha!
17 juill. 2023 à 22 h 9
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Seattle has no reason to do this
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17 juill. 2023 à 22 h 14
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The only issue is that Shane Wright isn't an NHL hockey player.
17 juill. 2023 à 22 h 15
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Quoting: Leafs_Fan_1986
Gotta love how any non leafs fan thinks nylander is worth 1/4 of tkachuk last year ha!


Without the 2 cap dumps and AHL player Nylander might get a better return, but Seattle isn't going to trade Wright for him.
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17 juill. 2023 à 22 h 15
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Oleksiak for Brodie and Robertson? Murray/nylander for wright first/second? It’s not going to be a one stop shop in Seattle, there’s a possibility of nylander going there, but the crease is full so Murray favour is off, 3 years of smaller salary oleksiak is better than one of brodie, they all ready got Yamamoto, so not sure of a Robertson add, so basically back to selling early on wright and what pick to add imo
17 juill. 2023 à 22 h 16
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Quoting: Leafs_Fan_1986
Gotta love how any non leafs fan thinks nylander is worth 1/4 of tkachuk last year ha!


It's hilarious how you can't know the difference between pending RFA and UFA.
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17 juill. 2023 à 22 h 21
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Quoting: Leafs_Fan_1986
Gotta love how any non leafs fan thinks nylander is worth 1/4 of tkachuk last year ha!


Amazing how any Leafs fan thinks the circumstances are the same and the market actually will support it. Seattle isn't going to give up much in this trade because it's not a player they need. Seattles not the dance partner for Toronto in moving Nylander.
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17 juill. 2023 à 22 h 45
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Quoting: Leafs_Fan_1986
Gotta love how any non leafs fan thinks nylander is worth 1/4 of tkachuk last year ha!


Don't see how you can compare the two trades. One year of Tkachuk went for one year of Huberdeau and Weager and first

This trade the Seattle gives up a three years of Olesiak, seven years of top five pick Wright, a first and a second. Leafs give up one year of Nylander, one year of Brodie, a cap dump of Murray, and Robertson
Sorry bud, this trade is so one sided in favour of the Leafs.
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17 juill. 2023 à 22 h 49
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Quoting: Leafs_Fan_1986
Gotta love how any non leafs fan thinks nylander is worth 1/4 of tkachuk last year ha!


What teams can/want to give Nylander 10m?? I can think of maybe 2, NSH & PHI. Even then, I think they'd look elsewhere. Tkachuk is an animal. This is just simply trading 17m cap away
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17 juill. 2023 à 23 h 14
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Quoting: Birtle34
Oleksiak for Brodie and Robertson? Murray/nylander for wright first/second? It’s not going to be a one stop shop in Seattle, there’s a possibility of nylander going there, but the crease is full so Murray favour is off, 3 years of smaller salary oleksiak is better than one of brodie, they all ready got Yamamoto, so not sure of a Robertson add, so basically back to selling early on wright and what pick to add imo


They could likely afford Murray so it would be Nylander, Brodie and Robertson for Wright and Oleksiuk and a 1st. That's certainly a huge risk by TO. Nylander is a star player with more to give still. Wright may not yet be ready to make the jump, he hasn't proven anything. He could hit though and then it's a great move for both teams likely. But I wouldn't take that risk if I was TO.
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What teams can/want to give Nylander 10m?? I can think of maybe 2, NSH & PHI. Even then, I think they'd look elsewhere. Tkachuk is an animal. This is just simply trading 17m cap away


I like Nylander and he has upped his game, but even as Nylander and Leaf, I don't think he is worth 10m. Yeah maybe might pay him 10m, but I reckon that is too high and likely will so will be the term some team might give him.
Getting back to the Tkachuk trade . I liked the trade for both teams, considering the circumstances at the time. But what a massive mistake it was for the Flames to extend Huberdeau to 10.5m X 8 years which starts when he is age 30.
17 juill. 2023 à 23 h 24
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Gotta love how any non leafs fan thinks nylander is worth 1/4 of tkachuk last year ha!


Tkachuk=Best RW in the NHL

Nylander=Not even top 8

Tkachuk
Marner
Fiala
Pastrnak
Rantanen
Kucherov
Keller
Stone
17 juill. 2023 à 23 h 51
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no one moving that for a 10M dollar man
18 juill. 2023 à 0 h 3
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They could likely afford Murray so it would be Nylander, Brodie and Robertson for Wright and Oleksiuk and a 1st. That's certainly a huge risk by TO. Nylander is a star player with more to give still. Wright may not yet be ready to make the jump, he hasn't proven anything. He could hit though and then it's a great move for both teams likely. But I wouldn't take that risk if I was TO.


Part of the deal would be the cap gain, plus the first possibly add a dumba or tarasenko with the gained cap. Interesting idea anyway to get the ball rolling on getting cap compliant. I haven’t looked at seattle to see the fit.
18 juill. 2023 à 5 h 17
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By throwing in cap dumps Murray and Brodie, Nylander has little value.

Dont get me wrong, Brodie and Nylander have value, but to who? Who has cap space for Brodie right now? (Only non contenders/rebuilders have cap space, so why would THEY trade value for a UFA dman?).

Considering the year SEA had, they dont make this move. Considering the cap issues of the Leafs they HAVE to move murray and likely brodie this offseason. Thinking that at this point in free agency they'll get value for brodie or easily dump Murray is crazy (examples: Zadina, Yamamoto, Deangelo buyouts by teams that could easily afford the cap hits on younger players, but didnt want to and had zero value in trade even with retention)
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18 juill. 2023 à 7 h 26
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Part of the deal would be the cap gain, plus the first possibly add a dumba or tarasenko with the gained cap. Interesting idea anyway to get the ball rolling on getting cap compliant. I haven’t looked at seattle to see the fit.


Cap you would want to use on FA's that are not half as good as Nylander. Taransenko is declining, worse than Nylander across the board and will still cost too much. No keep Nylander
18 juill. 2023 à 7 h 47
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Cap you would want to use on FA's that are not half as good as Nylander. Taransenko is declining, worse than Nylander across the board and will still cost too much. No keep Nylander


Question has to be getting close though, what the window is? Is Mathews sticking around? And make some adjustments to push in next few years, do love the abundance of the stay hungry, one year show me deals to keep the squad hungry. I looked at seattle, they don’t have a whole lot of room cap wise and also a rather large hole on lhd dman side if they move oleskiak, so probably back to the drawing board.
 
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