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Core Four is NOT It

Créé par: Broader
Équipe: 2023-24 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 12 juill. 2023
Publié: 12 juill. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
This is crazy, but hear me out...
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
13 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
17 500 000 $
14 500 000 $
14 100 000 $
Transactions
1.
2.
TOR
  1. Del Mastro, Ethan
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (CHI)
  3. Choix de 4e ronde en 2025 (CHI)
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2026 (NYI)
Détails additionnels:
Del Mastro is an NHL Ready Dman
CHI
  1. Tavares, John
Détails additionnels:
Add Leadership for Bedard
3.
TOR
  1. Guentzel, Jake
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (PIT)
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2026 (PIT)
PIT
Rachats de contrats
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2024
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Logo de OTT
2025
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Logo de PIT
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de CHI
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
2026
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Logo de PIT
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2483 500 000 $81 985 000 $0 $82 500 $1 515 000 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
8 500 000 $8 500 000 $
C, AG
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
12 500 000 $12 500 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
2 100 000 $2 100 000 $
AD, C, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
C, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
7 500 000 $7 500 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
925 000 $925 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
2 400 000 $2 400 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 1
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
1 150 000 $1 150 000 $
AD, C, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
1 350 000 $1 350 000 $
AD
UFA - 3
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
925 000 $925 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
775 000 $775 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
7 500 000 $7 500 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 7
4 100 000 $4 100 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
4 150 000 $4 150 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
766 667 $766 667 $
G
RFA - 2
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
855 833 $855 833 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
DG
RFA - 3
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
DD
RFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
800 000 $800 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
DD
RFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
5 625 000 $5 625 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 1

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12 juill. 2023 à 11 h 2
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Edmonton declines.

Obviously.
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12 juill. 2023 à 11 h 4
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I was going to say something about the Pittsburgh portion of this, but then I saw the full picture and laughed
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12 juill. 2023 à 11 h 5
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Edmonton declines.

Obviously.


I would agree, but if McDavid ever wanted out....
12 juill. 2023 à 11 h 6
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I was going to say something about the Pittsburgh portion of this, but then I saw the full picture and laughed


Still want to hear the Pitt side
12 juill. 2023 à 11 h 9
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-I'll leave the argument on value for this trade to those who want to have it and just say Edmonton couldn't do this trade because of the cap - McDavid & Draisaitl: $21M AAV; Matthews+Marner+Brodie: $26.5M, with the Oilers currently only having $5.6M in space *and* needing to extend Evan Bouchard.

-Again, no need to talk about the value. Chicago has Corey Perry, Nick Foligno, and Taylor Hall on hand as veteran mentors for Conor Bedard. They're not going to pay premium assets for the ass end of Tavares' contract.

-I can see the argument that Nylander and Guentzel are similarly valued players; this would come down to how the Pens feel about their odds of extending Guentzel, and if they think giving up a 2nd/3rd for Steeves/Robertson/4th is fair value. I'd pass if I was the Pens, but that's just me.
12 juill. 2023 à 11 h 9
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Quoting: Broader
Still want to hear the Pitt side


In principle, not opposed to this, however I think 87 declines it. Sid and Jake have had instant chem since Jake's arrival in 2017 and I think Sid has enough pull to say he'd rather have Jake than Nylander. Plus Nylander is going to cost more to resign than Jake will. So, Pittsburgh would decline.
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12 juill. 2023 à 11 h 11
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In principle, not opposed to this, however I think 87 declines it. Sid and Jake have had instant chem since Jake's arrival in 2017 and I think Sid has enough pull to say he'd rather have Jake than Nylander. Plus Nylander is going to cost more to resign than Jake will. So, Pittsburgh would decline.


I forgot about the Chemistry between Jake and Sid. Good Feedback
12 juill. 2023 à 11 h 12
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-I'll leave the argument on value for this trade to those who want to have it and just say Edmonton couldn't do this trade because of the cap - McDavid & Draisaitl: $21M AAV; Matthews+Marner+Brodie: $26.5M, with the Oilers currently only having $5.6M in space *and* needing to extend Evan Bouchard.

-Again, no need to talk about the value. Chicago has Corey Perry, Nick Foligno, and Taylor Hall on hand as veteran mentors for Conor Bedard. They're not going to pay premium assets for the ass end of Tavares' contract.

-I can see the argument that Nylander and Guentzel are similarly valued players; this would come down to how the Pens feel about their odds of extending Guentzel, and if they think giving up a 2nd/3rd for Steeves/Robertson/4th is fair value. I'd pass if I was the Pens, but that's just me.



Actual good feedback, thanks
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12 juill. 2023 à 11 h 15
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I forgot about the Chemistry between Jake and Sid. Good Feedback


Though he denies it....... 87 has a lot of say when it comes to roster construction I'm fairly certain and he should. Man has been the model of consistent greatness.
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12 juill. 2023 à 11 h 16
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Can't really hear you out, if you think Tavares waives for the Hawks. Bad for Edmonton too...they don't have the cap, and five years total control of Draistail and McDavid is worth more than three years of Matthews and Marner.
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12 juill. 2023 à 11 h 18
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Hawks decline (if Taveres hasn't beat them to it)...obviously. The privilege of paying PJ's 11 million cap hit for his age 33 and 34 season can go to anyone else but the Hawks. I like Del Mastro, but a full season of AHL is WAY more likely than NHL ready. Cup of coffee with injuries or as a reward...sure. Hawks will keep their picks and prospect and continue rebuild from the ground up rather than chasing the past of a declining/aging player.
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12 juill. 2023 à 11 h 22
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I feel that Kyle Davidson is very strategic with his cap usage. Del Mastro is a highly regarded defensive prospect. I cannot see why a rebuilding team pays a highly regarded prospect and a 1st for an albatross contract. That is not good asset management, and serves no advantage since the Hawks are no where near contending. In my opinion, the only way the Hawks and Leafs trade is if Chicago is offering cap relief at the expense of high drafts picks or prospects coming FROM Toronto, not to. I agree with dannibal on his points.

I appreciate your creativity though.
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