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Créé par: Pullero
Équipe: 2023-24 Blue Jackets de Columbus
Date de création initiale: 26 juin 2023
Publié: 26 juin 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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Carlsson, Leo
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26 juin 2023 à 10 h 16
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I don't see this making much sense for Columbus. They already have Laine and Gaudreau. I agree they should get a forward upgrade but it should be a centre. Or a winger making less cap. 2 years of Marner and to pay all of that doesn't seem wise for Columbus to do based on where they are at in their building process.
26 juin 2023 à 10 h 19
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Hard pass by the jackets on both trades
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26 juin 2023 à 10 h 21
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Quoting: TMLBRIAN
I don't see this making much sense for Columbus. They already have Laine and Gaudreau. I agree they should get a forward upgrade but it should be a centre. Or a winger making less cap. 2 years of Marner and to pay all of that doesn't seem wise for Columbus to do based on where they are at in their building process.


Also this would mean TO giving up a bit and rebuilding. Marner won't move unless a fully developed and impactful player is included. None of this group meet that description.
Proven 100 point guy on a contending team for players who only offer potential down the road. Foolish trade for Leafs.
26 juin 2023 à 10 h 24
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Quoting: TMLBRIAN
I don't see this making much sense for Columbus. They already have Laine and Gaudreau. I agree they should get a forward upgrade but it should be a centre. Or a winger making less cap. 2 years of Marner and to pay all of that doesn't seem wise for Columbus to do based on where they are at in their building process.


Laine and Gaudreau are both better of on LW and they have their future top6 centers (Johnson and Carlsson/Fantilli) so I dont really see the point on getting a center + atm there isnt really centers that would fit in CBJ on the market
26 juin 2023 à 10 h 24
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Also this would mean TO giving up a bit and rebuilding. Marner won't move unless a fully developed and impactful player is included. None of this group meet that description.
Proven 100 point guy on a contending team for players who only offer potential down the road. Foolish trade for Leafs.


They could use the cap space tho
26 juin 2023 à 10 h 57
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They could use the cap space tho


they have more than enough
26 juin 2023 à 11 h 3
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they have more than enough


U sure? That 11mil of the books could be used get better depth and defense
26 juin 2023 à 11 h 12
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U sure? That 11mil of the books could be used get better depth and defense


they have 14-18 with keeping marner, their defense isnt an issue is this 2019?
26 juin 2023 à 11 h 16
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they have 14-18 with keeping marner, their defense isnt an issue is this 2019?


Yes it is. Take a look at recent stanley cup winners defense and tell me with a straight face that Toronto’s defense is as good. They aint gonna win a cup with that defense period
26 juin 2023 à 11 h 17
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Yes it is. Take a look at recent stanley cup winners defense and tell me with a straight face that Toronto’s defense is as good. They aint gonna win a cup with that defense period


they lost because they didnt score and their big boys didnt score not because their d was bad, were not in 2019 anymore
26 juin 2023 à 11 h 27
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Quoting: Lbh1000
Marner won't move unless a fully developed and impactful player is included. None of this group meet that description.
Proven 100 point guy on a contending team for players who only offer potential down the road. Foolish trade for Leafs.


Quoting: Pullero
They could use the cap space tho


Marner is the 9th-highest paid player in the league going into next year, the Leafs can still trade for a developed, impactful player and get more cap space if they just...don't trade for any of the 6 players ahead of him that aren't on his team already.

There's plenty of other issues that would keep this from happening from Columbus' side, though. There's no way CBJ move Marchenko and Sillinger for a goalie (even to move Elvis), so Marchenko is locked in as a top-6 RW. Laine could play center, but regardless I don't think him playing RW is so offensive that Columbus makes a move like this to get a different one. Johnson can play center, but he's probably better suited for the wing (which doesn't help the LW logjam).
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26 juin 2023 à 11 h 29
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they lost because they didnt score and their big boys didnt score not because their d was bad, were not in 2019 anymore


They were lucky to get past the 1st round and they wouldnt have stood a chance against canes. Depth and defense is still an issue and thats because they are spending 33mil on 3players that can be shutdown in the playoffs
26 juin 2023 à 11 h 31
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They were lucky to get past the 1st round and they wouldnt have stood a chance against canes. Depth and defense is still an issue and thats because they are spending 33mil on 3players that can be shutdown in the playoffs


"Lucky" lol, when you wanna grow up and not have a conversation from 2019 (cap space and defense) then im all ears
26 juin 2023 à 11 h 40
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"Lucky" lol, when you wanna grow up and not have a conversation from 2019 (cap space and defense) then im all ears


It not a conversation from 2019. To win a cup your team needs a defense that is as good as Vegas, Colorado and Tampa had with their cup winning teams. Leafs dont have that…
26 juin 2023 à 11 h 41
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It not a conversation from 2019. To win a cup your team needs a defense that is as good as Vegas, Colorado and Tampa had with their cup winning teams. Leafs dont have that…

it is though because the leafs didnt lose because of their defense
26 juin 2023 à 12 h 8
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it is though because the leafs didnt lose because of their defense


U sayin that if marner, matthews and tavares showed up they would have won the cup?
26 juin 2023 à 12 h 18
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U sayin that if marner, matthews and tavares showed up they would have won the cup?


No I didn't say that but if they convert on even 25% of the chances they have vs florida they are playing carolina in the ECF and they go from there
26 juin 2023 à 13 h 47
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No I didn't say that but if they convert on even 25% of the chances they have vs florida they are playing carolina in the ECF and they go from there


And gets demolished by canes
26 juin 2023 à 13 h 51
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And gets demolished by canes


the panthers swept them.....
26 juin 2023 à 14 h 18
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the panthers swept them.....


They couldnt score just like toronto…
26 juin 2023 à 14 h 20
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They couldnt score just like toronto…


and they would have "demolished" the leafs because?
26 juin 2023 à 14 h 35
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and they would have "demolished" the leafs because?


More depth, better defense, better goalie, better coach
26 juin 2023 à 14 h 38
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More depth, better defense, better goalie


they also had that vs the panthers minus the goalie and got swept, im gonna also assume you thought the bruins would beat the panthers? or you gonna come out and say you had the panthers winning all along?
26 juin 2023 à 14 h 54
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they also had that vs the panthers minus the goalie and got swept, im gonna also assume you thought the bruins would beat the panthers? or you gonna come out and say you had the panthers winning all along?


Canes were the better team whole series but just couldnt score on godmode bob. Leafs got dominated by panthers…
26 juin 2023 à 14 h 57
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Canes were the better team whole series but just couldnt score on godmode bob. Leafs got dominated by panthers…


oh so you didnt watch then, good to know
 
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