Can leaf fans stop sending us the injury prone Robertson? Plus that doesn't get you that package

To Calgary
Nylander, Brodie

To center of the NHL universe
Toffoli, Hannifin

No interest in trading for Pending UFAS

Overall, this just doesn’t work. It might be a wildcard team and likely would face the same issues in playoffs again and it looks like you’re just making trades for the sake of making trades and they don’t have logic behind them really.

St.Louis deal - Blais would be a great 3rd line addition for Toronto but after he was traded back to the Blues he was on a 53 point pace and plays physical, plus he had a really strong world championship. Those types of players have good value and especially with his cheap 1 year contact - I doubt St. Louis is looking to move him again right now unless it’s an overpay and Timmins isn’t that. Frankly he doesn’t fit in St. Louis who already have Faulk, Parayko, and Bortuzzo (yes they can trade one of them but you don’t trade one of them to make room for a big like Timmins who is a #6 or 7 guy). For those reasons, St. Louis declines.

Buffalo deal - why are all Leaf fans dumping their best defenceman? He’s on a great deal and he makes every partner he plays with better. Getting a third string goalie like Comrie can be done for cheap via UFA and the picks aren’t that beneficial for Toronto, and Brodie isn’t a cap dump. Leafs decline.

Calgary deal - just doesn’t make sense for either side. Leafs don’t need to pay much to move Murray if they choose to, he has a cheap buy out. &why move that much to acquire Toffoli for a 3rd line spot? Marner and Nylander are 100% the top 6 options at RW so paying that many assets for depth isn’t smart. Zadorov would be a decent add but again you don’t need to overpay to do it. Robertson + mid round pick is plenty for a 3rd pair guy but even then it doesn’t make much sense when they have a similar guy in McCabe who’s better. & as for Calgary, they’ll likely look for more sure thing pieces if they move Toffoli. Too many question marks around Robertson’s health to be the main part of the deal.

Arizona deal - while your trade comparable is great, for a team like Toronto it actually benefits them to keep Muzzin on LTIR. This allows them to use their cap relief since they’ll be a cap strapped team again which gives them more flexibility, moving him negates that and makes the cap harder to work with.

pending UFA can be signed to term or exchanged for cap relief giving you options...when is the NHL gonna learn from the NBA..its not a bad thing to have expiring contracts..its all perspective

Lmao. Nylander is worth more than that by himself.

Buffalo isn’t interested in Brodie when they can just pay Mayfield more than you are offering him instead of eating that $5 million contract you need to get rid of. If Buffalo wants to get rid of Comrie they can throw him on waivers and give up nothing to do it.

Yeah don't think the blues have any interest in moving blais after he had a good year with us and is signed cheaply. He seems to like playing in stl

I'm confused Toffoli went for a 1st + 5th + a B level prospect + an AHL player last trade deadline, surely his value hasn't gone up in that time? He was paid a premium because of the term attached to his sweet heart deal. The deal outlined is similar to the one Calgary made for Toffoli, where the return is a first (in a strong draft year) + B level prospect. Zadorov is a bit of a unicorn there's not too many trades invovling guys like him. I think the closest comparable would be Manson but Manson had a track record of logging top 4 minutes which ultimately led to a bigger package (2nd + B level prospect). I think maybe a 2nd + C level prospect makes some sense, maybe a guy like Abruzzese he's had success with Coronato that could be a fun reunion.

Toffoli for 28th + CHI's 5th + Robertson

Zadorov for a second + Abruzzese

Dumping Murray = 3rd + 7th

We could just remove Rooney from the trade entirely at that point. I think that's fair, Calgary has limited leverage with Toffoli seemingly wanting out. I think you'd be hard pressed to find offers much better than this one.

I mean that's not too far off. I think Nylander would have more value around the league than Hanifin would, but Toffoli probably holds more value than Brodie around the league.

are you a Flames fan? just trying to get a read on where you are coming from..theres age to factor in, speed, salaries (future)

you think a 40G scorer whos horrible in his own zone is worth more than a 35G scorer who goes to the front of the net AND a top 4 young dman with speed?

Ehh Blais already enjoyed his fresh start in STL, thanks. Easy pass.

Honestly, I just have to disagree with the first portion of what you're saying. The past 5 cup champs all have one thing in common and that's they had big bodies on defence contributing big minutes. This lineup also allows for the Leafs to make a bigger trade deadline move, Holmberg is able to go up and down the waiver wire, and if Rooney and Comrie are moved closer to the deadline the Leafs could add a partner for Rielly or a 3C with double retention. Backlund/Henrique/Lindholm would be amazing 3C options and Tanev and Demelo could helm a top pair and could be targets for the Leafs.

The Blais trade is probably the one I was least sure on, I know he hits a ton and puts up really solid underlying numbers. I think Timmins could make sense in a swap but I agree there would have to be more added to the deal to make it worth it for the Blues. Timmins is no slouch either though, if he can stay healthy he is primed for a breakout season next year. When he was in the Leafs lineup, he was on pace for 46 points over an 82 game season. Plus the fact that he is a right handed shot and 6'2 doesn't hurt either.

I have a love/hate thing with Brodie, I think he's a legit top pairing defender but I think his play stagnates in the playoffs. He can elevate a pair in the regular season but his presence in the playoffs leaves a lot to be desired. He was mediocre in MTL, pretty good in TBL in 2022 and awful in both series in 2023. Comrie is strictly a cap dump in this instance, he definitely has negative value around the league and the Leafs could use insurance if Woll seems out of his element into the season.

I think Murray is going to cost at least a 3rd + 7th to move off of, Pittsburgh and Dubas might throw the Leafs a bone and try to double down on Murray. But apart from that it'll take something like that package to move off of him. The buyout route doesn't make sense for the Leafs as AM34 and WN88's big extensions are set to kick in next year, having ~2m in buyout penalties will put the Leafs in a really tough spot. I'd rather retain on his contract this year when the Leafs actually have extra cap space to work with.

It's a common misconception with LTIR, it only benefits the team if the player is set to play in the playoffs. Having no players on LTIR actually gives the Leafs more space closer to the deadline. If a team has 1m in capspace at the deadline they'd be able to acquire 2m in players. So in this instance 127k in cap space turns into 255k in cap space at the deadline, it's not much but it is an extra ~1m the leafs can use if they apply double retention to whoever they acquire at the deadline.

Brodie's deal expires next year, it would allow for cap flexibility plus Brodie has shown that he can elevate a pairing from bad to mediocre, from mediocre to good and from good to elite. A Power-Brodie pairing looks good on paper but Brodie would elevate that pairing into having elite results.

I think Nylander would fetch a package like Hanifin + 3rd

I also think Toffoli would fetch a package like Brodie + 2nd

Ultimately I think it's a close deal. The Leafs might have to add a little in terms of draft compensation, but it's not this huge gap. Now, do I think it makes sense for the Flames to buy at this moment? No, I think a retool is what needs to be done. With that being said, I like a lot of what the Flames have done in the past, I don't doubt that they'll turn it around in 2-3 years.

And signing Mayfield for $4 to $4.5 million for the next three years can do the same thing without giving up anything, all while costing less than Brodie, who you are obviously replacing with Mayfield here. So why should the Sabres play your little game when they can just take the guy you want instead?

Well again Brodie is an elite regular season defender, over the course of 82 games he'll improve whatever pair he's on. The Leafs and Sabres are ultimately in different places with their franchises, Brodie is a player that will help you get to the playoffs, while Mayfeild is one that helps you go further in them.

I think with a D-Core of:

Samuelsson - Dahlin

Power - Brodie

Grzelcyk - Lyubushkin

The Sabres easily make the playoffs assuming the offence holds and even if it slips it would be a top 10 D-core in the league IMO.

Still, Mayfield is younger, potentially cheaper, and would accomplish the same thing. Buffalo was basically one point out of the playoffs last season, and barring catastrophic injuries they should have no trouble getting in this year. Especially if they add Mayfield to the defense corps and solidify the team’s defense and penalty kill because of it. Realistically, I don’t see how Boston, Toronto, Tampa, and Florida won’t all regress this season due to the salary cap. That means the door is wide open for Buffalo to contend for the division title the entire year. When they make the playoffs next season, who is to say, they won’t win a round or two, and be glad to have Mayfield on their second defense pairing?

I think giving up on Comrie is odd...he was such a highly touted player at one time...what happened??

He was injured a lot last season, and when he did play, he wasn’t very good most of the time. Coming into this year he is easily the weakest link of the three goaltenders Buffalo has under contract. I feel like the only way he doesn’t get put on waivers is if Devon Levi is sent to Rochester to start the year, or Buffalo continues a three goaltender platoon, which wasn’t exactly smart or effective last season.

If Im Toronto I take a chance on him.

If the Sabres were to put Comrie on waivers and Toronto claimed him, not a single Sabres fan would be all that disappointed he’s gone. I would assume he would only be waived if nobody was willing to trade for him first.