One More Year in Suckville

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Créé par: HabsRafiki

Équipe: 2023-24 Canadiens de Montréal

Date de création initiale: 22 juin 2023

Publié: 22 juin 2023

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

Habs clean house and go deep in the 2023 draft, with an eye to being in the lottery again in 2024 (and maybe 2025).

Rationale behind trades:

1) Pittsburgh has narrow window to cash in on Crosby and Malkin. Dvorak offers a solid two-way middle-6 forward at just over $2M and Harris solidifies an aging D corps and helps with future rebuild.

2) Seattle gets Anderson, a strong, fast, hard-hitting RW for four years at $4M. Helps them battle Vegas, Kings and other bruisers in the West.

3) Anaheim trades down from #2 to #5, but gets #14 and Mesar, last year's #26 pick and Montreal's top prospect as well.

Drouin, who finished the season well at centre, gets another look. If all goes well, he, Gurianov and/or Monahan can be moved at the trade deadline.

Habs draft:
2 -- Fantilli (and puts an end to the PLD madness)
20 -- Best of Danielson, But or Honzek
31 -- Seeking fallen angels here, but looking to take a D (Simashev, Bonk, Molledyk) or Hrabel (G)
33 -- Hrabel or BPA
37 -- BPA

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

RFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Harvey-Pinard, Rafaël	2	950 000 $
Ylönen, Jesse	2	1 150 000 $
Gurianov, Denis	2	2 250 000 $

UFA		ANS	CAP HIT
Allard, Frédéric		2	800 000 $
Drouin, Jonathan		1	2 500 000 $

Transactions

MTL

Poulin, Samuel
Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (PIT)

Détails additionnels:

Sam Poulin's future is in doubt, but perhaps being back home would be good for his mental health.

The pick is #14

PIT

Dvorak, Christian (2 225 000 $ retained)
Harris, Jordan
Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (COL)

Détails additionnels:

The Pens have Granlund and Carter as their #3 and #4 centres, with Poehling as the spare. Dvorak (at $2.25M) is a significant upgrade on Poehling and offers some much-needed depth if the Pens are going to push into the playoffs.

The Pens' LHD is old, with Ruutta, Dumoulin and Petterson. Harris is a solid prospect to have in place while they await the arrival of Beliveau and Pickering.

MTL

Driedger, Chris
Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (SEA)

Détails additionnels:

Driedger is buried in the minors.

Seattle pick is #20

SEA

Anderson, Josh (1 500 000 $ retained)
Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (MTL)

Détails additionnels:

Anderson gives Kraken a big RW for divisional games against the likes of Vegas and Kings.

MTL

Choix de 7e ronde en 2023 (STL)

STL

Wideman, Chris

Détails additionnels:

Hoping Wideman will be welcomed home to his hometown.

MTL

Choix de 7e ronde en 2023 (VAN)

Détails additionnels:

San Jose take Hoffman for the purposes of getting Karlsson to waive his no-trade clause.

SJS

Hoffman, Mike (1 500 000 $ retained)

MTL

Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (ANA)
Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (ANA)

Détails additionnels:

Picks #2 and #33

ANA

Mesar, Filip
Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (MTL)
Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (PIT)

Détails additionnels:

Picks #5 and #14

Rachats de contrats

Karl Alzner: 833 333 $

Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire

Christian Dvorak: 2 225 000 $ (50%)
Josh Anderson: 1 500 000 $ (27.27%)
Mike Hoffman: 1 500 000 $ (33.33%)

Enfoui

Chris Driedger: 2 350 000 $ (3 500 000 $)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2023
2024
2025

FORMATION

VUE À LONG TERME

INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
23	83 500 000 $	67 521 666 $	1 170 000 $	4 210 000 $	15 978 334 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Caufield, Cole 7 850 000 $7 850 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 8	Suzuki, Nick 7 875 000 $7 875 000 $ C UFA - 7	Gallagher, Brendan 6 500 000 $6 500 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC, NMC UFA - 4
Slafkovsky, Juraj 950 000 $950 000 $ (3 500 000 $$4M) AD, AG RFA - 2	Dach, Kirby 3 362 500 $3 362 500 $ C, AD RFA - 3	Gurianov, Denis 2 250 000 $2 250 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 1
Harvey-Pinard, Rafaël 950 000 $950 000 $ AG, AD RFA - 2	Drouin, Jonathan 2 500 000 $2 500 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1	Armia, Joel 3 400 000 $3 400 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 2
Pitlick, Rem 1 100 000 $1 100 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1	Evans, Jake 1 700 000 $1 700 000 $ C UFA - 2	Ylönen, Jesse 1 150 000 $1 150 000 $ AD, AG RFA - 1
Pezzetta, Michael 812 500 $812 500 $ AG, AD UFA - 2	Monahan, Sean 1 985 000 $1 985 000 $ (15 000 $$15K) C, AG, AD UFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Matheson, Michael 4 875 000 $4 875 000 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 3	Savard, David 3 500 000 $3 500 000 $ DD UFA - 2	Allen, Jake 1 925 000 $1 925 000 $ G M-NTC UFA - 2
Guhle, Kaiden 863 333 $863 333 $ (420 000 $$420K) DG/DD RFA - 2	Barron, Justin 925 000 $925 000 $ (275 000 $$275K) DD RFA - 1	Montembeault, Samuel 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ G UFA - 1
Edmundson, Joel 875 000 $875 000 $ DG/DD M-NTC UFA - 1	Kovacevic, Johnathan 766 667 $766 667 $ DD UFA - 2
Xhekaj, Arber 828 333 $828 333 $ DG/DD RFA - 1

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
		Price, Carey 10 500 000 $10 500 000 $ G NMC UFA - 3
		Poulin, Samuel 863 333 $863 333 $ C, AG RFA - 1

22 juin 2023 à 12 h 11

GeneralLandro

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Insulting us trying to get Fantilli AND 33OA huh?

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22 juin 2023 à 12 h 13

HabsRafiki

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Quoting: GeneralLandro

Insulting us trying to get Fantilli AND 33OA huh?

For 5,14 and a top-50 NHL prospect? I wish someone would insult me so nicely.

22 juin 2023 à 12 h 15

Subbanator7667

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Habs aren't retaining on contracts with term.

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22 juin 2023 à 12 h 15

matthias893

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"Additional Details:
San Jose take Hoffman for the purposes of getting Karlsson to waive his no-trade clause."

loooool

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22 juin 2023 à 12 h 19

Tennisman142

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Blues have plenty of bottom pairing defensemen. We need to move some to make room for our prospects

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22 juin 2023 à 12 h 33

Salzy

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Quoting: HabsRafiki

For 5,14 and a top-50 NHL prospect? I wish someone would insult me so nicely.

If its so valuable you can keep it lmao

Not even enough for just 2

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22 juin 2023 à 12 h 40

KrakenTheCode

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Huh. First time I've seen someone float a Josh-Anderson-to-Seattle trade, so kudos for at least trying something new.

At this point I don't know what fair value for Anderson is; no one can seem to agree on it, so I'll set that aside for now. I don't think Seattle goes for this, mainly because their forward group is so deep that adding someone like Anderson just isn't a pressing need. If they do trade a first round pick for someone it'll likely be for a top-four defenseman or a player with more goalscoring punch.

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22 juin 2023 à 12 h 49

Jded

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Easy decline from ANA. Drop 33OA and I’m still not sure I’d take it

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22 juin 2023 à 13 h 4

xercuses

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Cant see the blues doing it rn

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22 juin 2023 à 15 h 47

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Quoting: Subbanator7667

Habs aren't retaining on contracts with term.

I think Hughes' obsession with not taking back parts of some of the lousy contracts Bergevin left him is weird. He should do what he can to clean house. Eating a couple of years of Devo's contract or even a fraction of Anderson makes sense if it nets a decent return. The sooner we turn the page on Bergevin's madness, the better.

22 juin 2023 à 15 h 47

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HabsRafiki

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Quoting: matthias893

"Additional Details:
San Jose take Hoffman for the purposes of getting Karlsson to waive his no-trade clause."

loooool

Glad you liked it.

22 juin 2023 à 15 h 49

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HabsRafiki

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Quoting: Tennisman142

Blues have plenty of bottom pairing defensemen. We need to move some to make room for our prospects

I get it, but Wideman is cheap depth. Obviously, if the Blues don't want him, there's probably someone with a spare 7th (or stick bag) willing to have him.

22 juin 2023 à 15 h 51

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HabsRafiki

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Quoting: Salzy

If its so valuable you can keep it lmao

Not even enough for just 2

Makes sense if Verbeek were at all tempted by Michkov, but we have no idea what the scouts are telling him.

22 juin 2023 à 15 h 54

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HabsRafiki

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Quoting: KrakenTheCode

I looked at is as Eberle and Bjorkstrand are small and play small. No one is getting by Vegas unless they can match them in the trenches. Eberle is also getting older and slower, so Anderson gives them something they don't have.

22 juin 2023 à 16 h 0

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Subbanator7667

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Quoting: HabsRafiki

Need those spots for Hoffman, Armia and Eddy. Plus, Anderson doesn't need retention to get a good return and Dvorak is young enough you can keep him on the team as injury insurance

22 juin 2023 à 16 h 18

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Tennisman142

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Quoting: HabsRafiki

I get it, but Wideman is cheap depth. Obviously, if the Blues don't want him, there's probably someone with a spare 7th (or stick bag) willing to have him.

Yeah the blues have Rosen, Perunovich, Tucker, Bortuzzo trying to get the 7th and 8th D man spots. We gotta give time to our younger guys Tucker and Perunovich

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22 juin 2023 à 17 h 3

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Quoting: Subbanator7667

Need those spots for Hoffman, Armia and Eddy. Plus, Anderson doesn't need retention to get a good return and Dvorak is young enough you can keep him on the team as injury insurance

I went back and forth on retaining for Anderson, but in the end thought it worth doing to remove a big hurdle for Seattle fans. If the Habs are going to be garbage for another year or two, they might as well get value for Dvorak and let Drouin and Monahan fill that third or fourth centre role, along with Jake Evans. Meanwhile, the Pens' window is closing soon, so Dvorak would be helpful to them this year.

22 juin 2023 à 19 h 52

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xercuses

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Cant see the blues doing it rn

Cant*

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