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Forum:
Armchair-GM
Hier à 19 h 22
Sujet:
mk12345
McCann is worth way more than that, and it makes zero sense for Seattle to trade their leading scorer when the story of their season has been struggling to put the puck in the net. The Kraken decline rather quickly.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
11 mars à 22 h 5
Sujet:
A Long Soo Summer In Pittsburgh
For as illustrious a career as Malkin has had, I don't think he's worth nearly that much at this point. McCann is scoring at a higher pace than him this season. It makes no sense for the Kraken to give up all those valuable assets when it's debatable whether swapping those two would even represent a near term upgrade, and certainly wouldn't be a long term one for Seattle.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
11 mars à 22 h 1
Sujet:
we ride at dawn
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sens65</b></div><div>Agreed, but he also takes up a big chunk of cap so they might want to trade him and use the space on someone else that utilizes the cap space better.</div></div>
I suppose it's a possibility, but Seattle is going to have over $10M in cap space next year even after factoring in new deals for Beniers and Tolvanen. That's plenty of room to make a splash signing should they so choose. Additionally, their NHL center depth actually isn't the greatest right now, so trading Gourde would open up a new hole that they'd have to spend money filling. With Gourde still contributing in ways other than point production, I think the Kraken will be inclined to keep him around for next season. If they really needed to open up cap space, there are several more palatable alternatives.
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Armchair-GM
11 mars à 14 h 42
Sujet:
we ride at dawn
Gourde is having a down season, but it's important to keep in mind that Seattle is still gunning for the playoffs both this season and next. In that context, Gourde is worth more to them than a handful of futures that are dart throws at best.
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Armchair-GM
11 mars à 14 h 40
Sujet:
Steve doesnt know what to do 2
Seattle's not going to have any interest in that swap. Tolvanen's pretty clearly the superior forward to Veleno and has fit like a glove in Seattle since arriving here. I doubt the Kraken are going to be all that willing to trade him anytime soon.
Forum:
NHL Trades
9 mars à 6 h 3
Sujet:
(SEA/NYR) - Wennberg for 2024 2nd (NYR), 2025 4th (DAL)
Early in the season, I thought Wennberg might be able to fetch a second round pick should Seattle decide to sell him. Then the Lindholm and Monahan trades seemed to set the bar high for rental centers, so I believed the price point for Wennberg increased to a conditional second that could become a first. Turns out his actual trade value fell somewhere in the middle. I thought he could have gotten more, but the market seemed to shift in buyers' favor as the deadline approached and Wennberg's relative dearth of scoring may have depressed his trade value. I suppose second and fourth round picks isn't a bad return for Wennberg all things considered, and Seattle has McCann (with Wright waiting in the wings) to step in and replace him at 2C.
Wennberg's a player who doesn't light up the scoresheet and was probably overmatched as a 2C, but he contributes in many other facets with his playmaking, netfront play, and defensive ability. He can contribute on both the power play and penalty kill. He'll be a nice 3C for the Rangers, though he won't be the answer in their search for scoring help.
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NHL Signings
9 mars à 5 h 26
Sujet:
Seattle Kraken signed Jordan Eberle (2 Years / $4,750,000 AAV)
Eberle has been a fixture for the Kraken franchise since its inception, and sentimentally at least it's nice to see him continue his tenure with the team. His value to them extends beyond the scoresheet thanks to his locker room presence and on-ice chemistry with Beniers. I think a two year deal at a slightly lower AAV than his current contract suits the Kraken quite well, as he can serve as a bridge from the present to when some of their young forward prospects are ready to make the leap.
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Armchair-GM
2 mars à 23 h 44
Sujet:
curious what is the price
I think a good trade comp would be the Klingberg trade to Minnesota last year, when he was dealt for a late round dart throw prospect and a 2025 4th round pick, 3 years out from the trade. Schultz is cheaper and has been more effective than Klingberg, but is a similar type of player, so I would say a 2026 3rd round pick plus a dart throw prospect/late round pick would be a fair price.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
2 mars à 10 h 55
Sujet:
Jake McCabe type trade
I don't think the McCabe trade is a great template for putting together an offer for Larsson, since McCabe is a more similar to Borgen as a player and Larsson is a clear step above that. I put together my own ACGM the other day where I laid out whether the Kraken will even consider trading Larsson or not and what I think a reasonable comp and hypothetical offer would be, if you want to go check it out: https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/4932594
Forum:
Armchair-GM
1 mars à 14 h 41
Sujet:
Petey to Carolina
I know the main focus of this is the Pettersson trade with Carolina, but Seattle and St. Louis would reject those offers out of hand. There isn't anywhere close to enough value for either player in those deals.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
1 mars à 10 h 58
Sujet:
any Kraken fans know what your selling
It's hard to get a gauge on what Seattle is planning to do this deadline since they're still hanging around the playoff bubble. There probably won't be a decision on whether Seattle is gunning for the playoffs or selling until close to the deadline.
If Seattle ends up deciding to sell, I believe it will be a soft sell, where veteran rentals get shipped out, while key contributors with term stay put to reload for next year. With that in mind, I think only Eberle would be on the trade block from your list, but players like Wennberg, Schultz, Yamamoto, Bellemare, and Driedger would also be available. Personally I wouldn't mind trading Tanev if the offer was right, but the Kraken seem to value having him around.
Forum:
NHL Trades
1 mars à 1 h 11
Sujet:
(ANA/CAR/TOR) - Lyubushkin for Slepets for 2025 3rd (TOR), 2024 6th (TOR)
Seems like a pretty even trade all around from my point of view.
Anaheim originally paid a 2025 4th rounder to get Lyubushkin. After half a season and retaining half his cap hit they recoup a 2025 third rounder. Solid bit of business for a team still deep in the rebuilding phase.
Carolina weren't going to be using their retention spots since they're contenders and had the cap space to spare, so why not buy a late draft pick for retaining a few hundred thousand?
There's some familiarity with Lyubushkin and the Leafs, and he helps fill their need for defensively minded RHD. He's more of a bottom pairing guy but should help balance out their blue line. Hopefully this helps thin out the wave of mock trades involving the Leafs trying to add Seattle's decidedly less available right handed defensemen, Larsson and Borgen. Lyubushkin isn't close to the caliber of player they are but he was acquired to fill a somewhat similar role.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
29 févr. à 21 h 56
Sujet:
What would these guys cost and are they available
I created an ACGM of my own earlier today where I explained my thoughts on whether Larsson is available and what a reasonable hypothetical trade package might look like. I'll just post the link here if you want to go check it out.
https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/4932594
Forum:
Armchair-GM
29 févr. à 17 h 20
Sujet:
What Pens want for Jake
For as great of a season as Guentzel is having, he's a rental until proven otherwise. I don't see any of these teams meeting this hefty of an asking price for him.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
29 févr. à 16 h 8
Sujet:
24-25 Kraken
I like the idea of going after Lindholm and Pesce, as they would really help bolster some areas where the Kraken are lacking a bit. However, I think it would take a bigger offer to Lindholm than that to convince him.
On the other hand, I'm not on board with the Borgen trade idea, and I don't think the Kraken are going to entertain trading him. They value Borgen highly, while Timmins got displaced from the Leafs starting lineup even before he landed on IR. The gap in value between the two players is quite a bit more than third and fifth round picks, and if Seattle is going for a reload via free agency, they'd be better served keeping the superior defenseman anyway.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
29 févr. à 15 h 5
Sujet:
Take it easy
The Kraken seem to really believe in Kartye and value what he brings to the table, so much so that they were willing to throw him on the top line in the middle of a playoff series for his NHL debut. I don't think he has super high trade value around the league or anything, but I feel Seattle would rather have him than a couple of late round picks, because his value to them exceeds his trade value to other teams.
Forum:
Trade Machine Proposals
29 févr. à 15 h 2
Sujet:
TOR Get Next Best Option
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>svfsdv</b></div><div>Not close. Leafs would likely have to give up their first for Larsson. I've seen some really over the top suggestions here as well. So no big deal. But this is really lowball offer. Id Imagine this trade to look more like the Leafs send a first round pick and a D prospect like Chadwick or Kokkonen. For Larsson with 50% retention. Then the Leafs would have to add a player to make the money work. Lagesson or Gregor maybe.</div></div>
I agree with you that the trade offer above is a lowball, but an offer of a first rounder and Chadwick/Kokkonen for Larsson at 50% retention wouldn't sway the Kraken either. I think a good trade comparable would be the deal Toronto made for Muzzin, where they had to give up some quality young players in addition to the first rounder. I made my own hypothetical trade illustrating what I think an even value offer for Larsson would look like here: https://www.capfriendly.com/trade-machine/32774
Forum:
Trade Machine Proposals
29 févr. à 14 h 59
Sujet:
TOR Get Next Best Option
I think that might be one of the most lopsided trade suggestions for Larsson I've seen, and it's not even remotely close to enough value. In the (HIGHLY unlikely) scenario where they entertain trading him, they'd be punting on the season, so Brodie has no value to them. For all the Kraken lack in high end forward talent, they have plenty of forward depth, so Gregor wouldn't even crack the Kraken's active lineup. Late round picks are late round picks. All in all, there's nothing of even decent value for Seattle in this offer, and they would reject it out of hand.
Since there's been a lot of mock trades for Larsson, I made my own post where I put together what I would consider a reasonable hypothetical offer: https://www.capfriendly.com/trade-machine/32774
Forum:
Trade Machine Proposals
29 févr. à 14 h 47
Sujet:
A Rebuttal to all the Larsson to the Leafs Trade Proposals
This is what I would consider a reasonable offer for Larsson in the hypothetical scenario where he's on the trade block. The trade comp I used is the deal that sent Jake Muzzin from the Kings to the Leafs back in 2019 for Sean Durzi, Carl Grundström, and a 2019 first round pick. In that deal, LA got a quality RHD prospect, promising young forward, and a first round pick for a shutdown top four defenseman with an extra year of term on his contract at a cap hit of $4M.
Larsson is a similar player to Muzzin with an identical contract situation, so he should fetch a similar return at minimum, with a quality RHD prospect (Niemelä), promising young forward (Robertson) and a first round pick. However, Larsson is a RHD while Muzzin was a LHD, so the relative positional scarcity increases Larsson's trade value. Something worth noting is that Seattle is much closer to contention than the Kings were at the time of the trade, and are much less inclined to trade one of their key players. So even though I would consider this offer fair, it might still not be enough to convince the Kraken to make a deal.
Keep in mind that it has been reported the Kraken are not entertaining trading Larsson, and it is basically a guarantee he sticks around in Seattle for the foreseeable future. This was mainly a hypothetical and a blanket response to all the Larsson trade ideas I've seen floating around.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
29 févr. à 14 h 32
Sujet:
A Rebuttal to the 8 Billion Larsson to the Leafs ACGMs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Caniac555</b></div><div>FYI - got banned for a month because I received infractions due to trying to be the ‘police’ for posts about JT Miller to the Canes two years ago.</div></div>
Thanks, appreciate the heads up!
Forum:
Armchair-GM
29 févr. à 12 h 47
Sujet:
Canes cash-in with Seattle
The package on offer isn't bad on first glance, but I'm not sure there's enough value there for both Borgen and Bjorkstrand unless Blake is some kind of hidden gem of a prospect.
I think the bigger issue is if Seattle trades those two guys they'll be punting on the next couple of seasons, not just this one, and I don't think they're willing to do that. If the Kraken are selling pieces this deadline it will in all likelihood be just the veteran rentals getting dealt, not key contributors with term/RFA control.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
29 févr. à 12 h 25
Sujet:
Deadline
I think the McCabe trade is a good comparable, as both McCabe and Borgen fall into a similar tier of defenseman: primarily defensive guys who can slot in on a good team's shutdown second pairing, but on a bonafide cup contender would fit better as above average third pairing guys.
The difficulty then is trying to parse out what aspects of the trade package Toronto sent to Chicago were for McCabe and what aspects were for Lafferty. I think the second rounder sufficed for Lafferty and the two fifths given the asking price for Lafferty that was floating around at the time (a second round pick). That leaves Anderson, Gogolev, and first rounder for McCabe at a cap hit a bit less than what Borgen is making right now. Considering that McCabe had three years left on his deal while Borgen has one, while Borgen is a RHD while McCabe is a LHD, I think a first round pick would be about what Borgen would garner on the hypothetical trade market.
It is important to note that compared to Chicago, Seattle is much closer to contending, so they're much less inclined to move Borgen than Chicago was to move McCabe. The Kraken also seem to value Borgen quite highly, as they were patient with him after selecting him in the expansion draft, gave him his first real crack at the NHL, and have steadily entrusted him with a larger role. Honestly, I don't see the Kraken trading Borgen anytime soon unless they get an offer too good to refuse.
Forum:
NHL Trades
28 févr. à 21 h 20
Sujet:
(CGY/DAL/NJD) - Tanev for Grushnikov, 2024 2nd (DAL), 2026 4th (DAL), 2026 3rd (DAL) for Brady
I'm impressed Dallas got Tanev at 25% of his original cap hit without having to give up a first round pick or one of their top prospects. He should fit in nicely on the right side of their defense as they gun for the cup once more.
I guess Calgary must really like Grushnikov as a prospect. I think they could have gotten a higher end asset for Tanev given the demand for defensively sound RHD around the league, but Grushnikov and a second rounder (along with maybe an additional third) is still an OK return considering Tanev was on an expiring contract.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
28 févr. à 21 h 14
Sujet:
COMPETE
Even if Seattle was considering trading Larsson (which they are not), this offer isn't close to being enticing. Trading him would signal the Kraken are punting on the season, so Brodie has zero value to them outside of being cap ballast. Beyond that, a late first round pick and an OK but not great prospect in Hirvonen doesn't move the needle nearly enough.
Forum:
NHL
28 févr. à 21 h 9
Sujet:
2023-2024 NHL Discussion Thread #4: Deadline is Approaching
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div>In the end its not bad but still funny how CGY just took market value for both their guys rather than try to swindle. I feel Lindholm was the one exception and they could have got more if they ret lul</div></div>
I'm guessing the reason there wasn't salary retention in the Lindholm trade was that Vancouver sent Kuzmenko to Calgary to make the math work on their end. The Flames must have felt that betting on Kuzmenko bouncing back with a change of scenery was worth more than whatever additional compensation they would have garnered by retaining some of Lindholm's cap hit.
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