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Zegras and Hughes

Créé par: Billy739
Équipe: 2023-24 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 18 juin 2023
Publié: 18 juin 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
For Shi*s and Giggles.

Still got a Stacked AHL :
Farrel,Kidney, Mesar, Heineman, Davidson,Roy,Mysak, Beaudin, Struble, Mailloux, Trudeau and Dobes.
Hutson,Tuch and Pitlick in NCAA and Kapanen, Engstrom and Kostenko over sea's .
We gave up all the bright shiny pieces to land this duo but there's still a wealth of diverse talent left here.


We still got some Cap space for TDL and RS spots to make deals still.
Hoffman,Eddy and Pitlick will leave this year creating room for AHL call ups.
Next year Dvorak, Savard and maybe Kovacevic depending on Mailloux eligibility timeline.
Lots of room for growth in the next year and buys a alot of talent time they need
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LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
3950 000 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
77 850 000 $
2950 000 $
2950 000 $
2950 000 $
1975 000 $
1975 000 $
Transactions
1.
MTL
  1. Hughes, Jack
Détails additionnels:
Matheson or Anderson for cap reasons
I gave Matheson as he has the greater value
NJD
  1. Beck, Owen
  2. Matheson, Michael
  3. Slafkovsky, Juraj
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (MTL)
  5. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (MTL)
  6. Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (MTL)
Détails additionnels:
-#5OA
-Top 5 protected 1st in 2024
-Conditional 2nd becomes a 1st if Hughes makes ECF before 2025 draft
2.
MTL
  1. Zegras, Trevor [Droits de RFA]
ANA
  1. Dach, Kirby
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (FLA)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (COL)
  4. Choix de 5e ronde en 2024 (SJS)
Détails additionnels:
-31st OA
-Conditional 2nd in 2024 becomes a 1st if Zegras makes ECF before the 2024 Draft
Rachats de contrats
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2023
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2025
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2383 500 000 $75 574 166 $1 170 000 $695 000 $7 925 834 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Zegras, Trevor
7 850 000 $7 850 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 3
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Hughes, Jack
8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
C
UFA - 7
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Caufield, Cole
7 850 000 $7 850 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 8
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Harvey-Pinard, Rafaël
975 000 $975 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
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Suzuki, Nick
7 875 000 $7 875 000 $
C
UFA - 7
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Anderson, Josh
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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Hoffman, Mike
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
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Dvorak, Christian
4 450 000 $4 450 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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Ylönen, Jesse
975 000 $975 000 $
AD, AG
RFA - 1
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Armia, Joel
3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
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Evans, Jake
1 700 000 $1 700 000 $
C
UFA - 2
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Gallagher, Brendan
6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 4
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Pezzetta, Michael
812 500 $812 500 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
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Pitlick, Rem
1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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Harris, Jordan
1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
DG/DD
RFA - 2
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Savard, David
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
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Montembeault, Samuel
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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Exempté du ballottageGuhle, Kaiden
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance420 000 $$420K)
DG/DD
RFA - 2
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Exempté du ballottageBarron, Justin
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance275 000 $$275K)
DD
RFA - 1
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Allen, Jake
1 925 000 $1 925 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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Exempté du ballottageXhekaj, Arber
828 333 $828 333 $
DG/DD
RFA - 1
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Kovacevic, Johnathan
766 667 $766 667 $
DD
UFA - 2
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Edmundson, Joel
875 000 $875 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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Price, Carey
10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
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18 juin 2023 à 19 h 30
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Ducks aren’t moving Zegras.
18 juin 2023 à 19 h 31
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Hughes breakdown
Slafkovsky (1st OA last year)
Matheson(top pair Dman)
Beck(1st pick in the 2nd round but making teams regret it)
Top 5 pick
Chance at a top 5th to likely 20th OA next year
2nd round pick and Conditional 1st if converted its CGY pick so TBD where it will fall(could be top 20 , could be 32nd OA i got no feel for this GM yet)

Thats a lot of Quality in the higher end of the 1st round
18 juin 2023 à 19 h 31
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Quoting: LosPatos
Ducks aren’t moving Zegras.


Agreed

He is worth more than that to us as well
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18 juin 2023 à 19 h 32
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Quoting: LosPatos
Ducks aren’t moving Zegras.


Its a good thing i didnt ask permission then for a fictional trade lol
18 juin 2023 à 19 h 33
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Quoting: Billy739
Its a good thing i didnt ask permission then for a fictional trade lol


If you don’t want feedback for your trades, then don’t post. But if you’re going to post things like this, especially when they’re illogical, whether fictional or not, you should expect to get feedback from fans of that team.
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18 juin 2023 à 19 h 34
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Quoting: GeneralLandro
Agreed

He is worth more than that to us as well


ok i can work with more then this to us
What is your overpay ?
I mean i overpaid for Hughes
Zegras i gave fair value with a slight overpay with that 2nd that could turn into an unprotected MTL 1st.
Good as this tema looks goaltending is sketchy and replacing it is hard after these moves.

That said we still got lots of depth quality pieces
18 juin 2023 à 19 h 35
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Quoting: LosPatos
If you don’t want feedback for your trades, then don’t post. But if you’re going to post things like this, especially when they’re illogical, whether fictional or not, you should expect to get feedback from fans of that team.


Feedback is offering something
You literally showed up to not talk about it . . . .
Contribute ! i love people who do that and i wont complain
But Debbie Downers get Sarcasm
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18 juin 2023 à 19 h 35
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ok i can work with more then this to us
What is your overpay ?
I mean i overpaid for Hughes
Zegras i gave fair value with a slight overpay with that 2nd that could turn into an unprotected MTL 1st.
Good as this tema looks goaltending is sketchy and replacing it is hard after these moves.

That said we still got lots of depth quality pieces


5OA is a must for any convo to start
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18 juin 2023 à 19 h 37
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The Habs could give us there next 3 first round picks, Slafkovsky, and Caufield and I still wouldn’t trade Hughes
18 juin 2023 à 19 h 38
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Quoting: GeneralLandro
5OA is a must for any convo to start


Hughes has it but getting a lets say top 10 work ?
Or is 5th or nothing ?

I can rework things maybe give Hughes the later top 10 pick
But i'd have to bang out a deal with AZ, WSH or DET seem like the most likely to move them .
Rest of the top 10 i dont see budging
18 juin 2023 à 19 h 39
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I dont even know what to make of that Hughes trade. I dont see NJ trading Hughes anytime soon, but that is such a wild overpay they'd probably have to take it
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Hughes has it but getting a lets say top 10 work ?
Or is 5th or nothing ?

I can rework things maybe give Hughes the later top 10 pick
But i'd have to bang out a deal with AZ, WSH or DET seem like the most likely to move them .
Rest of the top 10 i dont see budging


It’s 5th or nothing. Not only is Zegras one of the best forwards on the team, but he is incredibly marketable for Anaheim. Half of the fans this year only showed up to watch Zegras and his flippy puck antics. Ducks would need an unfair trade to any team asking for him.
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18 juin 2023 à 19 h 43
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I don't think there's a trade you can throw at the Devils that will make them move Hughes tbh. And idk about Zegras either, he's gonna be the face of their franchise for the next 12+ years if all goes well, I doubt they'd give all that up for Kirby Dach and picks?
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18 juin 2023 à 19 h 44
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Quoting: LosPatos
It’s 5th or nothing. Not only is Zegras one of the best forwards on the team, but he is incredibly marketable for Anaheim. Half of the fans this year only showed up to watch Zegras and his flippy puck antics. Ducks would need an unfair trade to any team asking for him.


Its not a deal breaker , just makes things harder on my end is all lol
TBH i thought the same thing about Milano and ANA never letting him go
Big difference in players but as far as your "marketability" it proves that its not determining factor alone just a bonus
To me Milano was worth every penny of the 1.9m he wanted on a rebuilding team but you let him go despite high marketability and Chemistry

Again just point out Marketability is subjective and a bonus not comparing the 2 players outside that
18 juin 2023 à 19 h 45
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I don't think there's a trade you can throw at the Devils that will make them move Hughes tbh. And idk about Zegras either, he's gonna be the face of their franchise for the next 12+ years if all goes well, I doubt they'd give all that up for Kirby Dach and picks?


Contributing is the bare minimum required to post here.
Get on board or dont but i only engage those with Solutions not Problems.
Nothing in life gets better by listening to the guy who see's problems instead of Solutions.
18 juin 2023 à 19 h 47
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Its not a deal breaker , just makes things harder on my end is all lol
TBH i thought the same thing about Milano and ANA never letting him go
Big difference in players but as far as your "marketability" it proves that its not determining factor alone just a bonus
To me Milano was worth every penny of the 1.9m he wanted on a rebuilding team but you let him go despite high marketability and Chemistry

Again just point out Marketability is subjective and a bonus not comparing the 2 players outside that


The issue with Milano is that (based on team sources) he was not a team player. He had a lot of trouble with management and staff and tended to not follow their coaching, he kinda just did his own thing. That was more of the reason why he was let go.
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18 juin 2023 à 19 h 48
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Quoting: jazzykiwi
I dont even know what to make of that Hughes trade. I dont see NJ trading Hughes anytime soon, but that is such a wild overpay they'd probably have to take it


That was the hope
I have to get past the people who show up to not talk about a trade.
To just get offended that a fictional trade was made on a forum designed to specifically discuss fantasy trades and players values.
From there you find the smart fans in each fanbase who show up to talk hockey and a real conversation can begin.
Its a process but its worth it.
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18 juin 2023 à 19 h 49
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Quoting: LosPatos
If you don’t want feedback for your trades, then don’t post. But if you’re going to post things like this, especially when they’re illogical, whether fictional or not, you should expect to get feedback from fans of that team.


we've asked for private AGM and MODO told us that everything might be posted ....
18 juin 2023 à 19 h 49
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For sh** and giggles that's funny. NJ obviously says no. And if that did happen, that is a soft 1st line. smile
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18 juin 2023 à 19 h 49
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Quoting: LosPatos
The issue with Milano is that (based on team sources) he was not a team player. He had a lot of trouble with management and staff and tended to not follow their coaching, he kinda just did his own thing. That was more of the reason why he was let go.


Alright so thats the threshold for value of Marketability
Makes sense ours is if you're an Alcoholic you're gone which is ironic given our Owners lol
18 juin 2023 à 19 h 53
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Quoting: DevilsFanZack13
For sh** and giggles that's funny. NJ obviously says no. And if that did happen, that is a soft 1st line. smile


I Prefer to think of them as Flashy and Marketable lol
The Canadiens with Team USA's top line going forward baby! hahahaha
Personally im a Caufield-Turcotte-Farrell line fan myself when i do Team USA line for team Canada for Shi*s and Giggles.
But there was an article with pictures of these kids still close and goofy ... it was just so Genuine and Chill that i thought "i want that in MTL"

I knew the Cost would be RIDICULOUS and the Flak would be as big
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18 juin 2023 à 19 h 53
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Easy no from both teams.
18 juin 2023 à 19 h 59
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Montreal does not have the assets to land a perennial top ~7 center in the league
18 juin 2023 à 20 h 1
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Best part about that first line is that any other team could just roll out a bunch of 200+ lb dudes and knock all the floppy hair off their heads.

They're all great players, but they're better off teaming up to watch F1.
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18 juin 2023 à 20 h 1
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Quoting: Tbrew
Easy no from both teams.


Permission was never asked for ,Assessment of Value was
These Forums are to discuss The Value of FICTIONAL Trades.
Why people feel the need to show up and not talk about something is astounding .
I can imagine you are Comicon walking around going "wizards are lame , dwarfs are stupid and Knights are Cliche" lol
 
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