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Créé par: Gabagool44
Équipe: 2023-24 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 15 juin 2023
Publié: 15 juin 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
88 000 000 $
1850 000 $
1850 000 $
1850 000 $
2850 000 $
2850 000 $
1800 000 $
23 500 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
11 000 000 $
21 250 000 $
Transactions
1.
TOR
  1. Bratt, Jesper [Droits de RFA]
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (NJD)
  3. Choix de 5e ronde en 2024 (COL)
2.
TOR
  1. Choix de 7e ronde en 2023 (CGY)
CGY
  1. Brodie, TJ (1 000 000 $ retained)
3.
TOR
  1. Wilson, Tom
  2. Choix de 5e ronde en 2023 (WSH)
WSH
  1. Hildeby, Dennis
  2. Timmins, Conor
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (BOS)
4.
TOR
  1. Vlasic, Marc-Édouard (3 500 000 $ retained)
Détails additionnels:
Sharks going to buy him out anyways
SJS
  1. Murray, Matt
  2. Choix de 5e ronde en 2023 (TOR)
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (NYI)
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2023
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Logo de TOR
Logo de CGY
2024
Logo de TOR
Logo de NJD
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de CHI
Logo de COL
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de OTT
2025
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de CHI
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2083 500 000 $72 070 117 $0 $0 $11 429 883 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 8
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
11 640 250 $11 640 250 $
C
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
6 962 366 $6 962 366 $
AD
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
925 000 $925 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
11 000 000 $11 000 000 $
C, AG
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo de Capitals de Washington
5 166 667 $5 166 667 $
AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
796 667 $796 667 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
850 000 $850 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
2 100 000 $2 100 000 $
AD, C, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
1 150 000 $1 150 000 $
AD, C, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
762 500 $762 500 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
7 500 000 $7 500 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
DD
RFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
766 667 $766 667 $
G
RFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
800 000 $800 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
5 625 000 $5 625 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 1

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15 juin 2023 à 10 h 26
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Not enough for Wilson
15 juin 2023 à 10 h 26
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To most teams, 8 years of Bratt is worth more than 2 years of Marner….NJD wouldn’t add any picks.
15 juin 2023 à 10 h 30
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Quoting: NHLfan10506
To most teams, 8 years of Bratt is worth more than 2 years of Marner….NJD wouldn’t add any picks.


it will be new jerseys job to get marner to resign, as it stands bratt doesnt have a deal and the difference between marner and bratt isnt a late first and a 4th
15 juin 2023 à 10 h 37
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Quoting: Herb_Brooks
it will be new jerseys job to get marner to resign, as it stands bratt doesnt have a deal and the difference between marner and bratt isnt a late first and a 4th


If Bratt signs his QO (1-year $5.45m)….the cap difference alone negates the value in the player. If Bratt extends long-term…the added term (most in his 20s) could make him more valuable than Marner at $11m x 2.

Just hard to envision a scenario where NJD is adding to Bratt for a full AAV Marner.
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15 juin 2023 à 10 h 43
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Quoting: NHLfan10506
If Bratt signs his QO (1-year $5.45m)….the cap difference alone negates the value in the player. If Bratt extends long-term…the added term (most in his 20s) could make him more valuable than Marner at $11m x 2.

Just hard to envision a scenario where NJD is adding to Bratt for a full AAV Marner.


too many ifs, i can do that too, if marner resigns with the devils then this trade is is a massive win for the devils, marner is alot better than bratt
15 juin 2023 à 10 h 47
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1)Marner would be deadly on NJ
2) Is it not easier to buy out Murray than to take on Vlasic?
3)Calgary has no cap and too many D. This makes no sense
4)People overvalue Wilson. Veteran depth doesn't have to be that expensive
15 juin 2023 à 10 h 51
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Quoting: Dr_Invictus
1)Marner would be deadly on NJ
2) Is it not easier to buy out Murray than to take on Vlasic?
3)Calgary has no cap and too many D. This makes no sense
4)People overvalue Wilson. Veteran depth doesn't have to be that expensive


1) I think its a fair deal
2) If Sj takes on 50% of his AAV I think he would be effective for the last few remaining years as a depth piece with the cap going up too.
3) as it stands right now yes, but I think Hanifin gets moved.
4) Fair deal for Willy
15 juin 2023 à 10 h 56
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Quoting: Dr_Invictus
1)Marner would be deadly on NJ
2) Is it not easier to buy out Murray than to take on Vlasic?
3)Calgary has no cap and too many D. This makes no sense
4)People overvalue Wilson. Veteran depth doesn't have to be that expensive


Marner would be deadly on any team but I dont see him as such an upgrade on Jasper to be worth the effort. Keep Jasper and use the extra 3 m to add some depth.
Makes no sense to add Vlasic and retain 1m salary on Brodie- might as well keep Brodie. And you are correct, see no reason for Calgary to make this deal.
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15 juin 2023 à 10 h 56
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Sharks aren’t buying out Vlasic. Nor are they trading him. Its more advantageous to keep him during a rebuild. Grier and co love Vlasic.
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15 juin 2023 à 10 h 57
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Quoting: Herb_Brooks
too many ifs, i can do that too, if marner resigns with the devils then this trade is is a massive win for the devils, marner is alot better than bratt


But he cannot sign for another year…
15 juin 2023 à 11 h 0
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Marner, pick for Bratt
Marner (20% retained) for Bratt
Marner (50% retained) for Bratt, 1st, 4th

The salary difference is big
15 juin 2023 à 11 h 4
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Quoting: NHLfan10506
But he cannot sign for another year…


so? why wouldnt NJ be confident that they could retain him? they are on the up. if they cant then thats a NJ problem. hes a guy that becomes arguably your best player. and you get it for a guy that probably wont take his qualifying offer and 2 picks. you arent getting a player as good as marner with that package. especailly a player with more term that you desire.

bottom line of this is this isnt enough for marner
15 juin 2023 à 11 h 5
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Quoting: NHLfan10506
Marner, pick for Bratt
Marner (20% retained) for Bratt
Marner (50% retained) for Bratt, 1st, 4th

The salary difference is big


Hilarious and delusional

have to pay to get good players in this league
15 juin 2023 à 11 h 7
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Doubtful Vlasic waives. People have speculated he might waive for Montreal because he's from there, but beyond that he's always consistently stated that he wants to remain a Shark.

As for the deal itself, the only real appeal for SJ is to save real dollars on his contract. This outcome would be better cap wise too, but we aren't really desperate for cap space right now. A buyout in his final year (or he just retires) is more likely if we end up needing the space. This is all before you take into account that we would be tying up a retention slot for 3 years when we are already using one on Burns for the next two. Overall I'd rather keep Vlasic and explore retaining salary on one of our other big contract veteran players.
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15 juin 2023 à 11 h 8
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Don’t see the leaf’s trading they’re best defender for a 7th while retaining on him
15 juin 2023 à 11 h 11
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Quoting: Herb_Brooks
Hilarious and delusional

have to pay to get good players in this league


Rational and responsible

Bratt is a good player in this league.
15 juin 2023 à 11 h 11
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Rational and responsible

Bratt is a good player in this league.


marner is an elite superstar
15 juin 2023 à 11 h 16
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so? why wouldnt NJ be confident that they could retain him? they are on the up. if they cant then thats a NJ problem. hes a guy that becomes arguably your best player. and you get it for a guy that probably wont take his qualifying offer and 2 picks. you arent getting a player as good as marner with that package. especailly a player with more term that you desire.

bottom line of this is this isnt enough for marner


He held out last time…squeezed the team for every dollar…forced them into making moves they didn’t want to make (including a friend/mentor losing his job). What will be his ask in UFA? $15 million? $16 million? No thanks. That is not the culture NJ is building. We can do without the “me first” diva crap.
15 juin 2023 à 11 h 17
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marner is an elite superstar


JBITBPITNHL
15 juin 2023 à 11 h 19
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He held out last time…squeezed the team for every dollar…forced them into making moves they didn’t want to make (including a friend/mentor losing his job). What will be his ask in UFA? $15 million? $16 million? No thanks. That is not the culture NJ is building. We can do without the “me first” diva crap.


hes probably 1.5m overpaid at the most. you can feel however you want. just know this isnt enough for marner and the other trades you suggested are jokes. thats the main point in all of this
15 juin 2023 à 11 h 21
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JBITBPITNHL


sure thing
15 juin 2023 à 11 h 23
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The Devils competitive window just opened, and you're suggesting they cut the length of that window by trading a long-term asset in Bratt for a short-term asset in Marner?
That's nothing if not counterproductive for the Devils POV.
The Devils aren't looking to compete for 2-3 years, they're looking to contend for a decade and dealing Bratt for Marner (let alone adding picks on top) is just terribly short-sighted.
15 juin 2023 à 11 h 23
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Counter offer:
To WSH: William Nylander
To TOR: Anthony Mantha and a signed Michael Nylander Caps jersey
15 juin 2023 à 11 h 28
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Quoting: SomeonesOffended
Don’t see the leaf’s trading they’re best defender for a 7th while retaining on him


Best defender? what games do you watch?
15 juin 2023 à 12 h 20
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Best defender? what games do you watch?


All of them
 
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