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Get Hill And Get Bigger

Créé par: KingExLeafs
Équipe: 2023-24 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 14 juin 2023
Publié: 14 juin 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
UFAANSCAP HIT
32 000 000 $
21 000 000 $
31 750 000 $
42 500 000 $
44 000 000 $
31 500 000 $
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CGY
  1. Liljegren, Timothy
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (NYI)
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TOR
  1. Edmundson, Joel (1 750 000 $ retained)
  2. Evans, Jake
MTL
  1. Steeves, Alex
  2. Timmins, Conor
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (TOR)
Détails additionnels:
Pick is top 10 protected.
3.
TOR
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (EDM)
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WPG
  1. Samsonov, Ilya [Droits de RFA]
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2025 (TOR)
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14 juin 2023 à 17 h 21
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Not enough for Lowry.
14 juin 2023 à 17 h 26
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Respectfully, habs accept and let you keep Alex Steeve.
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14 juin 2023 à 17 h 29
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Not enough for Hanifin
14 juin 2023 à 17 h 29
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Respectfully, habs accept and let you keep Alex Steeve.


Two contracts in, two contracts out.
14 juin 2023 à 17 h 32
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Quoting: KingExLeafs
Two contracts in, two contracts out.


Ight fair enough. You might be overpaying, but I'll gladly accept anyway.
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14 juin 2023 à 17 h 36
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I'm not sure how you see this team being better than last years, or the years before that. This team isn't that good in general either. From the top-6, bottom-6, defence and goaltending, almost everything is worse. Not sure how you did that, but congrats.
14 juin 2023 à 17 h 41
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Quoting: GladeBang12
I'm not sure how you see this team being better than last years, or the years before that. This team isn't that good in general either. From the top-6, bottom-6, defence and goaltending, almost everything is worse. Not sure how you did that, but congrats.


Addition by subtraction. Holl and Kerfoot gone automatically makes this team better.

Lowry and Knies are bigger and better than Bunting, Kerfoot and Jarnkrok in the top six.

Hanifin, Edmundson and Mayfield are more playoff proven than Liljegren, Holl, and Brodie.

And Hill just won a cup.
14 juin 2023 à 17 h 44
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Leafs shouldn't be trading Liljegren one for one for Hanifan, never mind adding to the trade. If Edmundson and Evans were gifted to the Leafs...OK but the Leafs shouldn't be giving Habs anything good to those two middling players . Edmonton has no cap for 5m Brodie. Murray as the Leafs goalie......that isn't happening even if the Leafs don't buy him out.
14 juin 2023 à 17 h 52
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Quoting: KingExLeafs
Addition by subtraction. Holl and Kerfoot gone automatically makes this team better.

Lowry and Knies are bigger and better than Bunting, Kerfoot and Jarnkrok in the top six.

Hanifin, Edmundson and Mayfield are more playoff proven than Liljegren, Holl, and Brodie.

And Hill just won a cup.


What do you mean more "playoff proven"? What have they accomplished in the playoffs that would suggest they're better than the other three defenceman? I like Hanifin. I think he would be a great addition to the blueline. Edmundson is flat out not a good hockey player. Mayfield is fine too (who you heavily underpaid), but it doesn't really make any sense to sign him because we already have Luke Schenn, who's a very similar player.

Knies is/was already on the team, so not sure why you're pointing him out. Lowry is a centre. If there was any world where we actually acquired him, it wouldn't be to play on the wing of JT, not to mention the cost of acquiring him wouldn't be worth it anyways. Furthermore, I'm not even convinced Lowry is a better fit than Bunting was in the top-6.

That bottom-six is absolutely horrendous. With all the cap space the Leafs have to work with on this site, you pretty much built 2 average fourth lines. The biggest reason why we have struggled in the playoffs is because of secondary scoring. This makes that issue 10x worse.

Adin Hill is having a terrific playoff run. So have many other goalies, and they all got paid, and they all aged horribly. Falling for Adin HIll and overpaying him based on a 16 game run would be the dumbest way to handle the goaltending situation.
14 juin 2023 à 18 h 10
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Quoting: GladeBang12
What do you mean more "playoff proven"? What have they accomplished in the playoffs that would suggest they're better than the other three defenceman? I like Hanifin. I think he would be a great addition to the blueline. Edmundson is flat out not a good hockey player. Mayfield is fine too (who you heavily underpaid), but it doesn't really make any sense to sign him because we already have Luke Schenn, who's a very similar player.

Knies is/was already on the team, so not sure why you're pointing him out. Lowry is a centre. If there was any world where we actually acquired him, it wouldn't be to play on the wing of JT, not to mention the cost of acquiring him wouldn't be worth it anyways. Furthermore, I'm not even convinced Lowry is a better fit than Bunting was in the top-6.

That bottom-six is absolutely horrendous. With all the cap space the Leafs have to work with on this site, you pretty much built 2 average fourth lines. The biggest reason why we have struggled in the playoffs is because of secondary scoring. This makes that issue 10x worse.

Adin Hill is having a terrific playoff run. So have many other goalies, and they all got paid, and they all aged horribly. Falling for Adin HIll and overpaying him based on a 16 game run would be the dumbest way to handle the goaltending situation.


My Brother in Christ - Edmundson won a cup and was a key part of the Habs playoff run to the final. He's okay during the regular season - but becomes a brute during the playoff (rough like Gudas and Pietrangelo, but clearly not as good as the latter).
14 juin 2023 à 18 h 21
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My Brother in Christ - Edmundson won a cup and was a key part of the Habs playoff run to the final. He's okay during the regular season - but becomes a brute during the playoff (rough like Gudas and Pietrangelo, but clearly not as good as the latter).


True. I honestly always forget about that playoff run.
14 juin 2023 à 18 h 42
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What do you mean more "playoff proven"? What have they accomplished in the playoffs that would suggest they're better than the other three defenceman? I like Hanifin. I think he would be a great addition to the blueline. Edmundson is flat out not a good hockey player. Mayfield is fine too (who you heavily underpaid), but it doesn't really make any sense to sign him because we already have Luke Schenn, who's a very similar player.

Knies is/was already on the team, so not sure why you're pointing him out. Lowry is a centre. If there was any world where we actually acquired him, it wouldn't be to play on the wing of JT, not to mention the cost of acquiring him wouldn't be worth it anyways. Furthermore, I'm not even convinced Lowry is a better fit than Bunting was in the top-6.

That bottom-six is absolutely horrendous. With all the cap space the Leafs have to work with on this site, you pretty much built 2 average fourth lines. The biggest reason why we have struggled in the playoffs is because of secondary scoring. This makes that issue 10x worse.

Adin Hill is having a terrific playoff run. So have many other goalies, and they all got paid, and they all aged horribly. Falling for Adin HIll and overpaying him based on a 16 game run would be the dumbest way to handle the goaltending situation.


"With all the cap space the Leafs have to work with on this site, you pretty much built 2 average fourth lines."

If the Leafs keep the core four together they really don't have that much cap to work with, especially if Treliving wants to reconstruct the blueline. There are a lot of UFAs, and any goalie will likely get paid 4 million or more. So the 3rd and 4th lines will likely be guys making 1-2 million each.
14 juin 2023 à 18 h 59
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Adin Hill will never go to Toronto.
14 juin 2023 à 19 h 3
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Quoting: KingExLeafs
"With all the cap space the Leafs have to work with on this site, you pretty much built 2 average fourth lines."

If the Leafs keep the core four together they really don't have that much cap to work with, especially if Treliving wants to reconstruct the blueline. There are a lot of UFAs, and any goalie will likely get paid 4 million or more. So the 3rd and 4th lines will likely be guys making 1-2 million each.


That just isn't true at all. I've seen multiple ACGM's with a much better bottom-six while having a similar blue line to what you've made.

Giving younger guys like Robertson, Steeves, McCmann and Holmberg opportunities instead of acquiring bottom-six veterans like Perry and Motte makes a difference in the cap, too.

I guess the main issue I have with your team is Lowry. It's just very puzzling; from why you're acquiring him, then actually acquiring him, and then how you're using him. None of it really makes any sense.
14 juin 2023 à 19 h 4
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Edmundson is not good. Watch him.
14 juin 2023 à 19 h 5
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Adin Hill will never go to Toronto.


Adin Hill is going to get paid. That won’t be in Toronto. 5 million times 5 incoming.
14 juin 2023 à 19 h 7
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Adin Hill is going to get paid. That won’t be in Toronto. 5 million times 5 incoming.


Hill will get paid well since he won the cup last night. Most likely he will stay in Vegas.
14 juin 2023 à 19 h 9
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Habs gladly accept and we can even change Steeves for Murray if you don't want to buy him out
14 juin 2023 à 19 h 10
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Hill will get paid well since he won the cup last night. Most likely he will stay in Vegas.


Can Vegas fit him under the cap? That’s the big question. At 5 million plus — probably not. Hill is 27, this is probably his last (only) big contract. He’s gonna get paid. Lots of teams need goalies — which ones have cap space and a need?
14 juin 2023 à 19 h 11
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Not enough for Lowry.


The jets need a goalie back in the Helly trade.
14 juin 2023 à 19 h 11
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Can Vegas fit him under the cap? That’s the big question. At 5 million plus — probably not. Hill is 27, this is probably his last (only) big contract. He’s gonna get paid. Lots of teams need goalies — which ones have cap space and a need?


Yes you are right, that is the big question. Throughout the summer and free agency going to be a little interesting.
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14 juin 2023 à 19 h 15
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The jets need a goalie back in the Helly trade.


They do, but Lowry needs to stay. Try someone other than Morrissey, Samberg, Connor, Ehlers or Lowry.
14 juin 2023 à 19 h 18
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Quoting: GladeBang12
That just isn't true at all. I've seen multiple ACGM's with a much better bottom-six while having a similar blue line to what you've made.

Giving younger guys like Robertson, Steeves, McCmann and Holmberg opportunities instead of acquiring bottom-six veterans like Perry and Motte makes a difference in the cap, too.

I guess the main issue I have with your team is Lowry. It's just very puzzling; from why you're acquiring him, then actually acquiring him, and then how you're using him. None of it really makes any sense.


None of those you mentioned are ready with the exception of Holmberg. Leafs need vets to fill out the bottom-six, not small rookies. Acciari and Perry will be very effective together.

And Lowry is a versatile guy who can play 3C, or move aside to 2C in case there is an injury to JT or Matthews. Plus, he's big, he's good on the PK, he's cheap and he has term. I hope Treliving gets him if he's looking to trade with Winnipeg.
14 juin 2023 à 19 h 31
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They do, but Lowry needs to stay. Try someone other than Morrissey, Samberg, Connor, Ehlers or Lowry.


No, I was thinking in the Helly trade, get a younger goalie with potential and term before UFA. Helly is an upgrade for teams like NJ etc. that could send a tender back.
14 juin 2023 à 19 h 34
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Quoting: KingExLeafs
None of those you mentioned are ready with the exception of Holmberg. Leafs need vets to fill out the bottom-six, not small rookies. Acciari and Perry will be very effective together.

And Lowry is a versatile guy who can play 3C, or move aside to 2C in case there is an injury to JT or Matthews. Plus, he's big, he's good on the PK, he's cheap and he has term. I hope Treliving gets him if he's looking to trade with Winnipeg.


McMann and Robertson are ready. Robertson was the Leafs best player on a couple of nights before he got hurt. McMann is ready for 3rd/4th line duty. Whether or not he scores up here after breaking out last year in the minors is another story. He is a big body that is good in the corners and down low. Let’s see what he can do.

Guys like Perry are finished. There are more than a few guys in the league that play great against the Leafs and do little else against other teams. Old man Perry is now one of those.
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