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Équipe: 2023-24 Flames de Calgary
Date de création initiale: 14 juin 2023
Publié: 14 juin 2023
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14 juin 2023 à 12 h 17
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Leafs decline
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14 juin 2023 à 12 h 19
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That's a fair price for Toffoli in my opinion just wrong team. Also likely the pick returning well be 20+. I would like him on the wings but we aren't in a position to pay that price.
14 juin 2023 à 12 h 20
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Hm yes Red Wings should trade 17OA for an 31 y/o impending UFA
14 juin 2023 à 12 h 20
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Value is fine for toffoli, just not the right team, wings are going to pass
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14 juin 2023 à 12 h 21
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That’s a hard no from COL they need centers and just trading a young cost controlled on for a pending UFA makes zero sense.
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14 juin 2023 à 12 h 26
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That’s a hard no from COL they need centers and just trading a young cost controlled on for a pending UFA makes zero sense.


Most of his points this year came at wing. Not sure he's a center long-term, especially on a perennial contender. Said perennial contender can pick up a legit 2nd line center in Backlund...
14 juin 2023 à 12 h 28
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Agree with above statements on Toffoli. That's not a Detroit need right now. Detroit could do way more damage packaging #17 & #9 to either move up or get a better player that fits their future needs. Its a pass
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14 juin 2023 à 12 h 29
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Hm yes Red Wings should trade 17OA for an 31 y/o impending UFA


Eventually they have to compete. Toff helps them in a barren wasteland of current RW's.
14 juin 2023 à 12 h 31
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Eventually they have to compete. Toff helps them in a barren wasteland of current RW's.


Yes they do eventually have to compete; but next year is not that year considering we will still have a topline winger hole, a 2/3RD hole, and a backup/tandem goalie hole, which all cannot be addressed in the same year without selling too much.
Rather not chip off the potential-high for this team to be mediocre right now
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14 juin 2023 à 12 h 34
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Quoting: JoeROFLCOPTER
Yes they do eventually have to compete; but next year is not that year considering we will still have a topline winger hole, a 2/3RD hole, and a backup/tandem goalie hole, which all cannot be addressed in the same year without selling too much.
Rather not chip off the potential-high for this team to be mediocre right now


Come on, take a page out of the Flames playbook!
14 juin 2023 à 12 h 35
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Insanely hard pass from Detroit. We are not a trade partner for Toffoli, look elsewhere.
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14 juin 2023 à 12 h 35
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Come on, take a page out of the Flames playbook!


Screw it; Red Wings should trade Edvinsson + 9OA for Karlsson!
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14 juin 2023 à 12 h 36
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Yzerman isn't trading the 17OA pick for a one year rental. He more than likely would with ADB as he knows he would sign long term with his childhood team.
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14 juin 2023 à 12 h 36
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Yzerman isn't trading the 17OA pick for a one year rental. He more than likely would with ADB as he knows he would sign long term with his childhood team.
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14 juin 2023 à 12 h 36
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14 juin 2023 à 12 h 38
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Highly doubtful Toronto would do that.

Toffoli is worth a 1st+ but I doubt he would return a top 20 pick this close to the draft.

Colorado almost certainly declines simply from a value standpoint but if Calgary is "going for it" they shouldn't be trading a stud in Backlund for a guy whose quite honestly underperformed in Newhook. Newhook is also not particularly great at center at the NHL level and certainly not better than Kadri at the position.

Not sure if you've kept up with recent signings but there is like a less than zero percent chance Graves is signing for under 5M
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14 juin 2023 à 12 h 49
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Most of his points this year came at wing. Not sure he's a center long-term, especially on a perennial contender. Said perennial contender can pick up a legit 2nd line center in Backlund...


Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Newhook is also not particularly great at center


Perception and reality are mixed up here. He got played full time at center around the start of the new year and did well when he had consistent linemates(even if it was Cogs and LOC). Enough so that Bednar praised him after a bunch of games. He is a 2nd year player, 3c next season is where he will play and it shows a lot that Beds played him at center over ERod(who they brought in the be a 2/3c flex option).
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14 juin 2023 à 12 h 57
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Perception and reality are mixed up here. He got played full time at center around the start of the new year and did well when he had consistent linemates(even if it was Cogs and LOC). Enough so that Bednar praised him after a bunch of games. He is a 2nd year player, 3c next season is where he will play and it shows a lot that Beds played him at center over ERod(who they brought in the be a 2/3c flex option).


We shall see. Regardless at this point in time Backlund is without question the better center but as I said above Colorado likely declines as Newhook holds more value due to age and team control
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