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The asking price for Carter Hart versus what I think he is worth

Créé par: sensonfire
Équipe: 2023-24 Sénateurs d'Ottawa
Date de création initiale: 11 juin 2023
Publié: 11 juin 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
The asking price for Carter Hart is reportedly two firsts


IMO, he is worth a first and a second.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
53 000 000 $
21 400 000 $
1874 125 $
1840 000 $
1840 000 $
1787 500 $
1787 500 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
24 000 000 $
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Bonk, Oliver
3950 000 $
Transactions
1.
OTT
  1. Lapierre, Hendrix
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (WSH)
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (WSH)
WSH
  1. DeBrincat, Alex [Droits de RFA]
Détails additionnels:
Trade endorsed by the following Caps fans in ACGM


brady_t12
perrystreett
ClockReads2113
BoringBrianMacLellan
qc14
2.
PHI
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (OTT)
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (OTT)
Détails additionnels:
The Flyers receive whichever 2024 1st is lower between Ottawa and Washington.
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2023
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2024
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2025
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2283 500 000 $83 031 338 $0 $2 275 000 $468 662 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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8 205 714 $8 205 714 $
AG
UFA - 5
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8 350 000 $8 350 000 $
C
UFA - 8
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6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
AD, C
NMC
UFA - 2
4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
AG
UFA - 3
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7 950 000 $7 950 000 $
C
UFA - 7
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4 975 000 $4 975 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 4
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863 333 $863 333 $
C, AG
RFA - 2
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
C
RFA - 1
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2 950 000 $2 950 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 3
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787 500 $787 500 $
AG
RFA - 1
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835 000 $835 000 $
C, AD
RFA - 2
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840 000 $840 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 5
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4 600 000 $4 600 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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3 979 000 $3 979 000 $
G
RFA - 1
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4 600 000 $4 600 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
DG/DD, AG
RFA - 1
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2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
G
UFA - 2
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance1 850 000 $$2M)
DG
UFA - 1
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874 125 $874 125 $
DD
RFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance425 000 $$425K)
DD
RFA - 1
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
762 500 $762 500 $
AG
RFA - 1

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11 juin 2023 à 11 h 37
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Tbh not sure I like any deal for ottawa that doesn’t include a top 20 pick in 2023 as well as more pieces.
11 juin 2023 à 11 h 41
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Just coming here to mention Georgiev cost two 3rds & a 5th.
11 juin 2023 à 11 h 48
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Just coming here to mention Georgiev cost two 3rds & a 5th.


Georgiev was trash a year ago on one of the top teams in the league. Hart is good on a **** team
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11 juin 2023 à 11 h 51
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Not trying to be rude but if the flyers are asking for two 1sts why even bother making a trade that is less than that lol obviously they don’t need to move him if they don’t get what they want
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11 juin 2023 à 11 h 54
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Flyers more likely get two top prospects a first and 2nd while taking on a buyout
However, they won’t be lotto picks

Sens 2024 first (becomes a 2nd if the Sens miss the playoffs)
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11 juin 2023 à 11 h 57
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Quoting: earl08
Just coming here to mention Georgiev cost two 3rds & a 5th.


Hart has far better numbers than Georgiev did at the trade… the two teams are not even comparable.

Being good on a team where all your best guys in your own zone are pretty much out for the year and being good (actually his numbers were mid) on a team where you just stand there and you win most games, is not the same.
11 juin 2023 à 11 h 58
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Quoting: ReelBigFan
Flyers more likely get two top prospects a first and 2nd while taking on a buyout
However, they won’t be lotto picks

Sens 2024 first (becomes a 2nd if the Sens miss the playoffs)
Ostapchuk
Lassi
Sens 2025 2nd


I mean ottawa had an .895 team save percentage last year and didn’t have Norris or Chychrun all year. If Hart posts .910 and health permits, they should make the playoffs .

Guys like Sanderson , Stutzle, Tkachuk, Pinto etc all should get even better
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11 juin 2023 à 12 h 16
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Quoting: TheBigFlyera
Not trying to be rude but if the flyers are asking for two 1sts why even bother making a trade that is less than that lol obviously they don’t need to move him if they don’t get what they want


well what you ask and what you get is not always the same thing. You always ask more than what you really want on negotiation. but its true they dont have to move him now, but his value might be at hogher now than later, its a.decision briere will have to make!
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11 juin 2023 à 13 h 5
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Quoting: ReelBigFan
Hart has far better numbers than Georgiev did at the trade… the two teams are not even comparable.

Being good on a team where all your best guys in your own zone are pretty much out for the year and being good (actually his numbers were mid) on a team where you just stand there and you win most games, is not the same.


Let me remind you the Avs had a ton of games lost due to injury, including Manson playing 27 games and Byram playing only 42. George was the reason they still managed to win the division.
11 juin 2023 à 13 h 6
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Georgiev was trash a year ago on one of the top teams in the league. Hart is good on a **** team


He was betrayed by NYR. COL believed in him, hence the turnaround
11 juin 2023 à 14 h 7
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Quoting: earl08
Let me remind you the Avs had a ton of games lost due to injury, including Manson playing 27 games and Byram playing only 42. George was the reason they still managed to win the division.


Are you comparing post trade numbers? Because that’s not really accurate
11 juin 2023 à 15 h 21
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Are you comparing post trade numbers? Because that’s not really accurate


Carter Hart is a starting goaltender in the NHL.
11 juin 2023 à 15 h 29
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Carter Hart is a starting goaltender in the NHL.


… yes
 
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